PVP Mutilate

[Nocturnes]

Ok guys, since servers go online at 15h, im preparing for Dual Spec (like most of you guys probably) My pve(combat) spec i have figured out...but my pvp is not finished yet. So let us see some Mutilate specs you guys are going to use for PVP considering the new changes. Links & Explainations are welcome.


The one i was using before patch:

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxco...MzZ0xZebfbh0db

Grtz & see U in Ulduar!

[Hax-man]

This is the specc I am currently using and the specc I will use after patch
http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...0&version=9767

[Voij]

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...0&version=9767

Pre- and Post-Patch, I'm playing with a Paladin in 2s, so it's a little more defensive then others use.

[xjswift]

This is my spec/glyphs for PVP Mutilate, please reply on suggestions.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fheco...bfbh0db:zaLM0V

[Nocturnes]

This is my spec/glyphs for PVP Mutilate, please reply on suggestions.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fheco...bfbh0db:zaLM0V

I don't understand why you go with those glyps...Glyph of Mutilate will be in mine for sure...

[Voij]

use the spec you are using PRE PATCH and go for

mutilate glyph
eviscerate glyph
Preparation glyph (or cloak of shadows glyph) i go for PREP .....
if you wanna have insane burst get vigor glyph instead of prep but that will reduce your survivability options

Don't forget the TotT-glyph if you're playing Rogue/Mage or something alike.

[Nocturnes]

use the spec you are using PRE PATCH and go for

mutilate glyph
eviscerate glyph
Preparation glyph (or cloak of shadows glyph) i go for PREP .....
if you wanna have insane burst get vigor glyph instead of prep but that will reduce your survivability options

As mentioned, these would be best for pvp mutilate. Im going for Vigor.

Ps: Is it only me who want's to see the face of DK's getting nerfed...

[Sneakybastard]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ether&n=Ghoruz (Took my armory profile since I am sitting on a school computer so can't open mmo's talent build calc...)

That specc and glyphs to use will be Eviscerate, Mutilate and then you can either choose from Preparation, Clos or Vigor.

Personally, i'll most likely use Vigor but Preparation might be an option, I don't find Clos very attractive.

Also, depending on the Warrior/DK population you might consider to take the 2 points from blood spatter to imp kidney shot.


my 2 cents.

[Nocturnes]

That's what im going for - Included glyphs i will be using.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxco...bfbh0db:TikMmV

[Sneakybastard]

That's what im going for - Included glyphs i will be using.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxco...bfbh0db:TikMmV

I wouldn't take it personally but it is certainly viable, good luck.

[xjswift]

http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ether&n=Ghoruz (Took my armory profile since I am sitting on a school computer so can't open mmo's talent build calc...)

That specc and glyphs to use will be Eviscerate, Mutilate and then you can either choose from Preparation, Clos or Vigor.

Personally, i'll most likely use Vigor but Preparation might be an option, I don't find Clos very attractive.

Also, depending on the Warrior/DK population you might consider to take the 2 points from blood spatter to imp kidney shot.


my 2 cents.

I think I'm most likely getting a mage partner so I think I should use IMP Kidney Shot.

[Sneakybastard]

I think I'm most likely getting a mage partner so I think I should use IMP Kidney Shot.

If you are doing double DPS, imp KS is definitely to prefer over blood spatter.

[danightryder]

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fheco...bfbh0db:TkiVzm

pretty much for every comp...

I i'll switch out vigor glyph for Tott if I run rogue/mage (or any double dps) but if not i'll stick with what glyphs I have. I like distract glyph for sapping far away targets or just slowing people down during the beginning of an arena match just so my teammate doesn't get in combat. Blurred speed.... umm yea.... AB anyone? I really like the sprint glyph though 100% speed increase is totally awsome I wish I could use it also.

[xjswift]

Hmm.. thats basically my spec with 1 more point in Quick Recovery instead of Find Weakness. Maybe that would be better.

[Voij]

Can anyone recommend a good resource to get me started on PVP-Mut? I've always been combat and have never played Mut, but I want to bring it on as my second spec. Problem is ... I don't know jack about it ... not the rotations, what's important for gems, etc ...

Any direction hugely appreciated - Cheers!

There is no "rotation" in PvP, use your abilities to control your enemies as good as possible, survive as long as possible and beat the living hell out of them with Mutilate and Eviscerate and maybe Rupture.

There's no real "do this and you'll succeed" in PvP. Pick the right spec, adjust it to your needs and then learn to play with it. (Being "good" in PvP is not as easy as it is in PvE, as you don't just do what you always do but you have to react to certain things, know what to do if this or that happens, etc.)

[dumkin]

Slow or fast weapons for Mult spec?

[Voij]

Slow or fast weapons for Mult spec?

PvP: Slow/Slow

PvE: Slow/Speed-Doesn't-Matter, the speed of the OH is pretty much irrelevant. Although Slow/Fast is a little bit more in favor then Slow/Slow, you should not decide your Offhand by speed but by it's stats or whether it's one gearlevel above the rest.

[kalewaite]

PvP: Slow/Slow

PvE: Slow/Speed-Doesn't-Matter, the speed of the OH is pretty much irrelevant. Although Slow/Fast is a little bit more in favor then Slow/Slow, you should not decide your Offhand by speed but by it's stats or whether it's one gearlevel above the rest.

It doesnt matter anymore...

Since blizz put instant on a proc per minute basis u can really use whatever speed u want.

[Voij]

It doesnt matter anymore...

Since blizz put instant on a proc per minute basis u can really use whatever speed u want.

It actually does matter, as slower weapons have a higher chance to proc IP and WP from abilities.
If you think I'm wrong or can't follow, read the "Poisons in 3.1" sticky.

[Voij]

Yea, I'm up on the entire dynamic side of PVP fighting. Let me reword. Assuming you come up to a target in stealth, what are you using for a stun-lock rotation? Pretty much everyone has one of these, whether you are mut, combat or sub. From what I've come across so far I"m guessing it is something like ...

CS > Mut > KS > CBlood > Mut > Mut > Evis ...

If they are still alive at that point, I'd probaly toss out a Blind > Vanish > CS ... repeat rotation ...

How does this look relative to what you are using?

Save CB for Evis.