Burst Potential

[Divinestorm]

With our loss of burst from SoB judgement, I was wondering if stacking crit would be a more viable option for burst.

Our Auto-attacks combined with Seal of Blood are doing more then our judgements damage now, plus FoL procs when we crit aswell. So stacking crit seems to offer more burst and survivability at this point.

Discuss.

[Adamson]

SoM hits really hard now on the procs from specials and melee, harder than SoC but on every swing and special.

I'm still going to be stacking STR in my pvp set just so my undoubtedly high burst from seal procs are devastating. I don't think crit scales all that well anymore tbh.


Having a string of abilities lined up that do guaranteed good damage vs. maybe doing good damage based on rng is far superior in my opinion.

[Divinestorm]

I went all out Strength for my last PvP set and managed 3.7k AP Unfortunately that left me with 25% crit.

What your recommended crit baseline for pvp?

[b37x]

Don't stack crit for pvp. If it comes on the gear, fine. But don't gem for it.

Remember: Your opponents resilience reduces your chance to crit and the damage your crits do. Probably best to stick with Str.

[Adamson]

I went all out Strength for my last PvP set and managed 3.7k AP Unfortunately that left me with 25% crit.

What your recommended crit baseline for pvp?

i gem for some crit. I try to stay around 30%

[apoptygmax]

With our loss of burst from SoB judgement, I was wondering if stacking crit would be a more viable option for burst.

Our Auto-attacks combined with Seal of Blood are doing more then our judgements damage now, plus FoL procs when we crit aswell. So stacking crit seems to offer more burst and survivability at this point.

Discuss.

The burst potential for SoB/M has been removed but SoC still can provide similar burst, plus you have exorcism in PvP now too. I don't think using gems or enchants for +crit is a good idea at all. Resilience is designed to stop bursts from crits, you're much better of with the 'burst' that comes from attack power, bigger non-crit hits won't be reduced by x%

[ShinKosh]

With 3.1 and the loss of JoBlood burst bombs I was starting to think going back to Casino would be needed but I have to say I like SoB a little more now.

On my opening move, you land a CS with a SoB and a Melee with a SoB, then a DS with a SoB, then add on a JoB and Exo. That's more damage in a short burst than Casino can promise. Any time your in the middle of a few enemies and hit DS, you dont have to worry about SoC procing on the wrong target, CS hits like a bus and Exo can be pretty nice on demand burst as well. At range no less.

Ok yea we lost the 8k Judgment bomb but I like hitting like a bus with every swing.

As for stats, Im around 3.7ap unbuffed and 27.7% crit.

[Kawasaki.gdm]

we got buffed? I really dont fell that way.

40 sec CD on Hoj sucks, but oh well.

Be able to hit like a truck is very good, i miss the 8k crits with Jugde, but we are bursting a little more now (honestly, I was expecting alot more with the Blood/martyr changes) with exorcism.

Things i didnt like at all:
-Hand of reckoning cant destroy totens anymore, thats ridiculous, we spend mana, does dmg, needs to target toten, its 8 sec CD. AND SAYS IMMUNE.
-DS dont hit mirror image copies, also not good.

Didnt see any nerfs on Dks at all, they are still owning everyone, and locks seems alot stronger (dots looks to be doing alot more dmg).
Prot warriors is like rogues now, they can stun lock you to death.

Maybe i was unluck last night, but I felt owned by everyone, sure I could kill some people in BGs, but was too hard, maybe I need to learn this new playstile. Overall I fell like nerfed.

[Lanthal]

with the new changes to SoB/M and the buff to haste i say stacking haste is a viable option for pve dps

[meteuremu]

With wings poped. 7K exorcism+5K judgement+ 4K CS+ 3.5K DivS+ 2 auto attacks for 3.2K each. This all equals 25.9K damage off the bat. assuming everything crits

[ShinKosh]

With wings poped. 7K exorcism+5K judgement+ 4K CS+ 3.5K DivS+ 2 auto attacks for 3.2K each. This all equals 25.9K damage off the bat. assuming everything crits

This is whats known as the Paladin butterfly effect. One day this will happen and the world will end.

At least one of us will die happy :P

[iktankniet]

With wings poped. 7K exorcism+5K judgement+ 4K CS+ 3.5K DivS+ 2 auto attacks for 3.2K each. This all equals 25.9K damage off the bat. assuming everything crits

is that raidbuffed or selfbuffed?

[Azharok]

is that raidbuffed or selfbuffed?

Selfbuffed, raid buff you can double almost all those values. (Did a 7k CS on Razorscale yesterday)