Are we Rogues a bit OP these days...?

[Silverbreeze]

I don't even play a Rogue and I think they should be top DPS when played correctly.

Pures should do more than Hybrids, blizzard has states this etc.

Melee should do slightly more damage than ranged (5-10%) because it's a lot easier to play a Ranged than a Melee (If you don't agree, try Mimiron).

Seeing that Rogues are the only Melee Pure class, they should be the edge in DPS imo.

Pure Melee > Pure Ranged = Hybrid Melee > Hybrid Ranged imo.

[Raistlin]

I don't even play a Rogue and I think they should be top DPS when played correctly.

Seeing that Rogues are the only Melee Pure class, they should be the edge in DPS imo.

Pure Melee > Pure Ranged = Hybrid Melee > Hybrid Ranged imo.

Why? Because you rolled the class?

[Ryuuji]

A Second opinion from me, if you're a hybrid, and you want to do the same DPS as me, go level me up a few alts to 80 so I can Heal or tank, or Heal and Tank, and I'll call it square.

[superstargoddess]

These days?

[Squeaks]

A Second opinion from me, if you're a hybrid, and you want to do the same DPS as me, go level me up a few alts to 80 so I can Heal or tank, or Heal and Tank, and I'll call it square.

lol

Now with dual-spec these days, you can do two different things in one raid.

"Hey, I can dps this fight and heal the next!"

"Hey, I can dps... and dps some more!"

[Paulosio]

http://www.wowmeteronline.com/rank/classrank/7

DPS average for the top 50 of each class on each boss. No it's not perfect because not everyone in the universe uses wowmeter... but it's close enough to give an accurate idea about the different dps of each class.

Seems rogues are about the top dps class overall looking at that. There's a few fights where they aren't as good but in general they are the highest.

[Way2Serious]

Nerf rogues, it's not fair that they can top dps and own in pvp too. Buff feral druids, bullshit argument against hybrid classes is bullshit.

If they end up nerfing feral druids you will just end up seeing more of a population of lolrogues because of how damn easy they are to be decent at and will NEVER suck in pvp or pve.

[Heywes]

Because a hybrid can then do another job where as a rogue cannot.Every raid leader would only bring ferals if they were equal to rogue dps.

Because Blizzard has stated in various blue posts (which I am sure you can find yourself with any effort) that they would want pure DPS to have at least a little more output than Hybrids.

I out dps every rogue, mage, warlock and all other dps in my guild, would my raid leader bring only me? No don't bring specific buffs, that would be stupid, would he bring the required buffs and then me? Maybe. Don't get me wrong, some classes are higher then others, that will always be the case, but look at the player behind the character, are they better then you? How about asking that first before calling for nerfs.
I don't out gear the other players in my guild by much, we are all rather even in gear, how ever there is atleast a 1k dps between me and the 2nd highest damage dealer ( a rogue or enhance shaman is second), i don't think its my class being "OP" thats causes such a major difference, i think its skill and knowledge of your class that makes you so powerful at your job (of course certain buffs/nerfs to classes and what they use during in a raid helps, but its skill > class).

[Abbadon]

Nerf rogues, it's not fair that they can top dps and own in pvp too. Buff feral druids, bullshit argument against hybrid classes is bullshit.

If they end up nerfing feral druids you will just end up seeing more of a population of lolrogues because of how damn easy they are to be decent at and will NEVER suck in pvp or pve.

Feral druids need no buffs in pve or pvp. When played right they are up there on the meters just not the top if in equal gear/skill as pures in the raid. They can have some crazy burst in pvp too.

And heywes what class do you play? I would suggest your guildies need to play a bit better.

It's a simple fact, pures should get an edge over hybrids, all they can do is dps, nothing else. And like many Blues have posted and others in this thread, the difference isn't huge, but pures get the edge none the less.

[Silverbreeze]

Why? Because you rolled the class?

Sorry friend I'm a Holy Paladin and a Warlock.

I know it's hard for you to understand people talking on a forum without it involving QQ or nerfing someone's class.

Direct your nerd rage elsewhere.

[SamuraiJakkass86]

...I mean I have 2 parts of T8 and a couple of cool Ulduar maces and I seriously blow away everyone else in my raid... I don't even have to try that much. Mages and even feral druids are always below me...

2 seconds later...

Feral druids are just insane btw now... something has to be done about that. You can't have hybrids top pure dps classes in my opinion, as much as Blizz wants to homogenise everything...You can't have hybrids top pure dps classes in my opinion, as much as Blizz wants to homogenise everything...

Can anyone else see the stupid here?

[Brince]

I out dps every rogue, mage, warlock and all other dps in my guild, would my raid leader bring only me? No don't bring specific buffs, that would be stupid, would he bring the required buffs and then me? Maybe. Don't get me wrong, some classes are higher then others, that will always be the case, but look at the player behind the character, are they better then you? How about asking that first before calling for nerfs.
I don't out gear the other players in my guild by much, we are all rather even in gear, how ever there is atleast a 1k dps between me and the 2nd highest damage dealer ( a rogue or enhance shaman is second), i don't think its my class being "OP" thats causes such a major difference, i think its skill and knowledge of your class that makes you so powerful at your job (of course certain buffs/nerfs to classes and what they use during in a raid helps, but its skill > class).

Skill > class is the biggest bull*** ever created. It's not true, you can compare skills if you're playing the same class with the same gear. This is not counter strike, after every patch there's a new fotm, why?
Before the TG nerf you couldn't outdps a good fury warrior, now with the dot crit yuo can't outdps a good feral druid. Next month will be another one.
It's like saying that i'm driving a normal car and you're driving a ferrari, if you win a race against me that means you're more skilled than me?

[DaTaLa]

tbh i think the guy who wrote this isn't a rogue. I think he's Mage else who thinks Rogues are OP and wants us to casually admit it so he can get us nerfed!!!

[Deleted]

It's like saying that i'm driving a normal car and you're driving a ferrari, if you win a race against me that means you're more skilled than me?

Well.. if you win the race with your crappy car, that actually means you have more skills than
the one losing in the ferrari

[Exorte]

And why can't you have a hybrid top a pure? (if you are about topping meeters that is). The hybrid part is only in regards to more roles in the same character than one. Technically speaking if I am in a kitty spec, I am a pure spec, correct me if I'm wrong. I can't heal and dps in the same time can I?

That is not what Blizz think. period
go make your our game

[ThatOneDude]

...I mean I have 2 parts of T8 and a couple of cool Ulduar maces and I seriously blow away everyone else in my raid... I don't even have to try that much. Mages and even feral druids are always below me... I mean what's gonna happen once my ruptures start critting???

Ofc I do enjoy this but I am wondering when you buff a class that much, will a nerf follow? Hunters and Mages had that so are we soon to follow...?

Feral druids are just insane btw now... something has to be done about that. You can't have hybrids top pure dps classes in my opinion, as much as Blizz wants to homogenise everything...

So where is this amazing DPS of yours? Gear? Spec? Armory? Screenshot? Recount? Anything? You're basically talking alot of bullshit. So far I'm currently I'm 2 pieces from BiS ( both of which happened to be ranked 2nd or sometimes first depending on what stats you need more ) in 3.0. Our kitty has the exact same ilvl comparison ( and none of which that would make a drastic difference ) but he beats me by 100-300 DPS. So explain to me how you feel OP? Lets see your epic DPS.

And why can't you have a hybrid top a pure? (if you are about topping meeters that is). The hybrid part is only in regards to more roles in the same character than one. Technically speaking if I am in a kitty spec, I am a pure spec, correct me if I'm wrong. I can't heal and dps in the same time can I?

Umm maybe because if you -wanted- to you could gear up and change specs? Pure classes can only do one thing and one thing only? Blizzard makes alot of sense when they say "if hybrids did as much DPS as pure classes, what's the point of a pure class?". The only thing is a different play style. But that once again means Blizzard favors hybrids and would only force a reroll on the pure classes vs changing pace. And NO if you're kitty spec you are NOT a pure class. Take out any ability to heal, tank, and lock you into kitty form forever and THEN you can consider yourself a pure class.

[darkdestiny]

...I mean I have 2 parts of T8 and a couple of cool Ulduar maces and I seriously blow away everyone else in my raid... I don't even have to try that much. Mages and even feral druids are always below me... I mean what's gonna happen once my ruptures start critting???

Ofc I do enjoy this but I am wondering when you buff a class that much, will a nerf follow? Hunters and Mages had that so are we soon to follow...?

Feral druids are just insane btw now... something has to be done about that. You can't have hybrids top pure dps classes in my opinion, as much as Blizz wants to homogenise everything...

If you blow away everyone in raid why do you care where hybrid dps is if your beating them?

PS. Sorry OP but your thread was just plain stupid and pointless

[Pineapple]

And why can't you have a hybrid top a pure? (if you are about topping meeters that is). The hybrid part is only in regards to more roles in the same character than one. Technically speaking if I am in a kitty spec, I am a pure spec, correct me if I'm wrong. I can't heal and dps in the same time can I?

Because Blizzard said so.

Jack of all trades.

[K4ge]

NEVER suck in pvp or pve.

Made me laugh. Because in 3.0.9 we pretty much sucked at everything.

[Exorte]

Made me laugh. Because in 3.0.9 we pretty much sucked at everything.

at least in pre- tbc and TBC rogue was the best of almost everything.
they can sleath in instence and steal mines.
King of pvp in pre-tbc and TBC.
highist DPS in Tbc and pre tbc.