The Thaddius Talk.

[Kuraiholy]

Feel free to ignore this as it's what you'd call common sense...but it would appear not many people have that.


Alrighty, there was a huge argument last night in a pug and people are still not getting this so here's an explanation.

On Thaddius, if you go to the wrong side with the wrong charge, you won't magically wipe the raid(per se). When you cross over and, for fun let's say, negative on the positive side, you deal 3.5k damage to everyone within 10 yards with a positive charge every second. THEN! AT THE SAME TIME! They all hit you for 3.5k damage a second. Let's see what this means!

For number's sake, let's say 9 people with positive, 1 with negative:

Negativepally will hit everyone for 3.5k damage a second.
Positiveraid will hit Negativepally for 3.5k damage a second which equals 31,500 damage a second.

Unless Negativepally bubbles, he's gonna eat shit way faster than he could possibly wipe out the Positive side.

Lesson? If you screw up, you die, you don't kill the whole side. YOU DO, however, take away 10% of the raid's damage due to you not being there. That's where you get into "you wiped the raid" territory.

Also note, trinkets and some effects can turn you red. Remind people that if you were on the wrong side, you'd be dead, and that just because the rings are red and you're on the blue side, doesn't mean you're on the wrong side.




Now with that explained, here's what keeps coming up that NOBODY UNDERSTANDS.

Recount has a handy dandy Friendly Fire report. What do you see when you look? How much you damaged friendly characters. What are you going to see on top? A ret paladin. OMG THAT MEANS HE SHOCKED THE ENTIRE RAID THE WHOLE TIME, HE FAILS SO HARD RIGHT? Nope. If you geniuses would look at the detailed report of Friendly Fire, you'll see it's Judgement of Blood and Seal of Blood constituting the FF damage. It doesn't mean he's terrible and shocking the raid, calm down.

NEXT misconception: If you have any Friendly Fire that says Negative and Positive, you shocked the raid and failed. Again, not how the report works and not how the encounter works. If someone else screws up, you're going to shock them. That means you're going to have Friendly Fire even if you've done absolutely nothing wrong.


Feel free to troll or do whatever you want, but if I reform one close minded person that thinks the ret pally done wiped the raid coz they were first on friendly fire list, I'll have done something.

[Possiblyreefer]

you dont kill the raid instanly

but you're still a spastic and yes you will wipe the raid

world 8th [Heroic:shocking!] though, so what do i know

[Greggory]

You could also just get failbot and announce to the raid who fails at getting to the correct side. I've seen it announce a false positive a couple times but for the most part it's dead on.

[tears]

If I can do it, you can do it

yes but the kids 30y or younger cant play the games through without cheats
IDDQDD, poweroverwhelming and stuff like that :P

[General Vezax]

kids? 30y?

on topic: FF meters are useless and provide false information on thaddius. My guild has to carefully explain this to anyone we may pug -_-

[ProphetFlume]

I thought this thread was going to be about what thaddius yells when you first enter his room, it's always piqued my interest but seemingly had no explanation.

[droozle]

Thadius is so 2006.

[Firecrest]

I thought this thread was going to be about what thaddius yells when you first enter his room, it's always piqued my interest but seemingly had no explanation.

"Thaddius, built from the flesh of women and children, it is said that their souls are fused together - eternally bound within that foul prison of flesh."
—Commander Eligor Dawnbringer

[Offhand]

Don't use recount for Thaddius, use failbot.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...s/failbot.aspx

[Hunterwep]

Don't use recount for Thaddius, use failbot.

http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-a...s/failbot.aspx

This is awesome, can filter out the slackers fast

[mitchimitch]

i scored 19 touchdown on general vezax with that thing 8)

[Listorian]

There's these things called.. "debuffs". Red = negative, blue = positive. I've noticed with most people noticing epic items so ridiculously fast that they can't be color blind or they wouldn't see shiny purples.

[kailtas]

let it go, stop arguing they are random people.

if ure on a populated server chances ure gona meet into them again is low-medium and chances they will remember your name is close to 0

[bbr]

Just blink + iceblock after the boss is dead for fun.
Or cloak of shadows, or bubble, shield wall, etc etc.

[Pheonixis]

Just blink + iceblock after the boss is dead for fun.
Or cloak of shadows, or bubble, shield wall, etc etc.

Not anymore though, the debuffs are gone as soon as ol' Thadd hits the dust.

[bbr]

Not anymore though, the debuffs are gone as soon as ol' Thadd hits the dust.

Ah well.
The trick is to use it at 1% then.

[tears]

get a debuff -> HS to dalaran -> profit + laughs?

[Deleted]

get a debuff -> HS to dalaran -> profit + laughs?

THAT would be awesome!

Though Ironforge/Orgrimmar will probably be more people-per-square-meter occupied

[Sollolol]

Not anymore though, the debuffs are gone as soon as ol' Thadd hits the dust.

So sad that they did that, it was so fun to watch the poor people in pugs go WTF IS HAPPENING when the boss dies and then all of a sudden they die too ;D

[nietmakkir]

I thought this thread was going to be about what thaddius yells when you first enter his room, it's always piqued my interest but seemingly had no explanation.

me too

also, it doesn't wipe the raid in the same way the entier raid standing in void zones doesn't; it may not one-shot you, but it makes healer's mana cry :'(