1. #1

    disc kept OT in instance

    Hello priests,

    It is a sad story...

    This Thursday I went to Stratholme with a group(60warrior, 60hunter, 56mage, 55hunter), but I kept OT after entering The Scarlet Bastion.

    I was yards behind my partners. Only shielded the warrior before OT then being attacked by four or five mobs. The next thing I did was shielded myself and went fading. Useless. The priest was sacrificed. Three times...

    What's wrong? :'(

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    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767


  2. #2

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Your tank, i guess.

  3. #3

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    tank..

  4. #4

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Do you PVP regularly? I'm asking because you have reflective shield, unbreakable will, and glyph of inner fire.

    Sounds like a tank problem though.

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  5. #5

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Quote Originally Posted by G l o w y r m
    Do you PVP regularly? I'm asking because you have reflective shield, unbreakable will, and glyph of inner fire.
    Yes.

    Sounds like a tank problem though.
    (sigh) Then it would be my problem. I grouped every member...

  6. #6

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Quote Originally Posted by nitenite
    Hello priests,

    It is a sad story...

    This Thursday I went to Stratholme with a group(60warrior, 60hunter, 56mage, 55hunter), but I kept OT after entering The Scarlet Bastion.

    I was yards behind my partners. Only shielded the warrior before OT then being attacked by four or five mobs. The next thing I did was shielded myself and went fading. Useless. The priest was sacrificed. Three times...

    What's wrong? :'(

    the talent and glymphs:
    http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?prie...0&version=9767

    I think you've over simplifying what happened because if you hit fade your threat is set to 0 for the duration of the effect so it would be impossible to have aggro.

  7. #7

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Quote Originally Posted by Worshaka
    I think you've over simplifying what happened because if you hit fade your threat is set to 0 for the duration of the effect so it would be impossible to have aggro.
    unless the tank had absolutely no aggro

  8. #8

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Quote Originally Posted by Worshaka
    I think you've over simplifying what happened because if you hit fade your threat is set to 0 for the duration of the effect so it would be impossible to have aggro.
    Ofcourse not. Fade decrease your threat by specific amount based on rank of it. After Fade ends you get that amount of threat back.

  9. #9

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Quote Originally Posted by Farrokh
    Ofcourse not. Fade decrease your threat by specific amount based on rank of it. After Fade ends you get that amount of threat back.
    Yes, and while you are faded you cannot pull aggro until it ends and you get the aggro back. If you already have aggro and the fade is not enough to put you under the next person on threat, then that should be the only way you can keep aggro while faded.

    If the tank had no threat and you fade, the mobs should have attacked someone else.
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  10. #10

    Re: disc kept OT in instance

    Disc priests need to be careful about agro on pulls.

    1. Shield before anyone is in combat = Threat free mitigation
    2. Shield between the tank entering combat and him hitting the target = Quite a bit of instant threat

    PW:S credits the caster with the threat equal to the full potential mitigation of the shield on cast, so even before the shield is used you get threat from the full force of the shield. Fade is usually sufficient to negate this threat if the shield goes off late (case 2), but if you shield multiple people before the tank has established agro you are probably screwed.


    Get the priest to pre-shield earlier, and wait for tanks to have agro before reapplying shields. Also your tanks might have sucked


    PS. I believe fade can put your threat negative, so as long as you don't climb too far, fade should definately save at least you even if your tank sucks. PW:S -> Fade and even untouched by the tank the mob should start attacking whoever is next in their threat table after you.


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