Hi,help on race.

[Mysmere]

To those saying Tauren are still best for PVE I don't see how. At most you are looking at about 40-50 stam extra. This is the ONLY advantage Tauren have. They WERE the best in vanilla and BC, but since 3.0 they have taken the sidelines to the ultimate PVE race -

Orcs. Just amazing bonuses for PVE.

- +5 free expertise for using an axe is amazing for DPS or Tanking. Current itemization favors swords at the moment, but the next tier is coming. Last tier Orcs really shined from Last Laugh and Betrayer of Humanity.

- Hardiness is 15% reduced stun that stacks with Iron Will. Off the top of my head, I can't think of too many encounters where there are stuns, except Thorim's arena. There are however trash mobs that do have stuns, and even though nobody cares about trash it will still make it easier. In the past and the future there have been and will be bosses with stuns as well.

- Blood Fury is 322 AP at 80, which may not seem much, but you can stack it with trinkets, is off the GCD, only a 2 minute CD, and doesn't MS you anymore. Free damage just for rolling Orc!


The benefits IMO far outweigh Tauren at least.

A closer competitor (from a PVE perspective only) would be Trolls.

they are close but if you see (450 overkill) and you're an orc, you're going to cry

[Gredge]

Tank - Tauren
DPS - Orc
PVP - Undead/Tuaren or Orc now that Blood Fury doesnt increase dmg done to you when you use it.

[Mysmere]

PVP - Undead

just. no.

[SoleSurvivor]

just. no.

Just.stop.posting.

All races have + and -. and the wotf is great,try destro lock with succ out and see the difference.

But once again,its all about how u want ur toon to look,no race will make u a better player if u dont know how to play in the end of the day.

[Mysmere]

and the wotf is great

wotf is terrible for warriors.

[SoleSurvivor]

You know,i would believe you,if u were an Ud warrior with some better arguments.

[Obliteration]

(Horde)(PvE)
Warrior
*Tank - Tauren DPS - Orc
Death Knight
*Tank - Tauren DPS - Orc
Shaman
*Healer - Orc Raid Heals - Troll DPS - Orc
Priest
*Healer - Troll DPS - Troll
Warlock
*DPS - Orc
Mage
*DPS - Troll
Rogue
*DPS - Orc
Hunter
*DPS - Orc

Appearance
*Tauren

PvP is a lot more complicated (And bad :P) depending on makeup of your team and other variables.

But there you go, very plain and unarguable race guide for optimal performance. Doesn't really matter though. (* = Optimal position)(Alliance not included in PvE summary as Racials are inferior by a vast amount)

[Mysmere]

You know,i would believe you,if u were an Ud warrior with some better arguments.

why would i be bad enough to pick UD in the first place

(Horde)(PvE)
Warrior
*Tank - Tauren DPS - Orc
Death Knight
*Tank - Tauren DPS - Orc
Shaman
*Healer - Orc Raid Heals - Troll DPS - Orc
Priest
*Healer - Troll DPS - Troll
Warlock
*DPS - Orc
Mage
*DPS - Troll
Rogue
*DPS - Orc
Hunter
*DPS - Orc

Appearance
*Tauren

PvP is a lot more complicated (And bad :P) depending on makeup of your team and other variables.

But there you go, very plain and unarguable race guide for optimal performance. Doesn't really matter though. (* = Optimal position)(Alliance not included in PvE summary as Racials are inferior by a vast amount)

you should put comma's after Tauren etc