Upcoming Paladin changes (Updated)

[Honomuchacho]

Lololololollol gogo blizz keep nerfing Paladins and dont spend time at druids and DK's

Realy goodjob, Spend some time on them,

This is just Pissing me off,

You should really read the patch before you QQ nerf...First off they are nerfing crusader strike not bad and they made it so you have to think now before clicking on exo but who cares it will just weed out people who do not know how to play the class proper. As for pvp we still have the same dps i think because with the loss of some dps from crusader strike we get to hit it more and if every thing is timed and done proper your burst is till up there.....Stun then judge (seal of command is 100% crit) which means u can exor instant. then u still have CS,DS (with white damage and command proc) and hand of reconing that does 50% of ur AP as damage... still all done in 4-5 GCD So all in all its the same ammount of burst i think just with more buttons to push. can still easly burst something down while the healer is cc chained

[Baabinator]

LOL @ UBER-RANGED-EXECUTE

1. Cast Exorcism
2. Cast Hammer of Wrath
3. Win

[TanAxys]

I just feel bad for the formerly BiS Holys that were only stacking crit and haste. Once they go out and get a new set of gear they should be fine, as long as the MP5 and Replenishment changes work out.

I can see Holys carrying 2 sets of gear (like every other healer) now. One for Max HPS for a sub 5 minute fight, and then one MP5 set for the few marathons in the game.

Personally not being one of the afore mentioned BiS types, I like the changes. I already have a decent amount of gear with MP5 on it because I hadn't farmed out all the crit/haste stuff yet. It also makes the T8 stuff much more attractive. Chest, Hands, and Legs all have MP5 and that 4 piece bonus is looking even better now.

[Bazalt]

OK. My question might be considered stupid but what would be the cd of our exorcism after the patch? Because if proc of AoW gives us the chance to cast exorcism and exorcism still remains on its current cd this means that still AoW would be wasted because of exorcism being on cd most of the procs?

[davep]

One glaring issue out of all this:

Exorcism change is STUPID, coming from a prot pally point of view. 1.5 sec cast, while boss is hitting on you could sometimes result in tank death. Ever since Exorcism was changed in 3.1, I was happily using it as a threat spell.

this is actually good imo, there was already enough threat spells as prot. adding exo just made tanking boring (and yes i do tank 25man Ulduar)

[davep]

The Stamina from Blessing of Sanctuary will not stack with Kings. If you have Kings and Sanctuary on you, you won't get twice as much Stamina but you will get the damage reduction and mana from BoSanc.

I hope I still get 10% more str still though

[Perunding]

Not sure but ive heard that they want to lower exorsisms cd to 7 secs, and want to add a new 2-point talent that further lowers it by 2 secs and increases its damage by 20%... again, NOT SURE (so ppl dont tell me i lied.. )

arent they removing the cd?

[DarkArchonBOA]

Liking the holy changes

[darthreaper]

DO NOT FUCKING NERF ILLUMINATION AGAIN

Is there a reason why holy pally are nerf every patch this is bs.

[Vazor]

It looks like all Blizz did for Ret was shift the cards around in their hand, they didn't actually change anything....lower the burst? Naw. Now we have those amazing 5-6k crits with exorcism instantly hitting you, and if people are correct, might be every 5 seconds, with a 4 second cd hit with CS (which is almost as strong as before they buffed it last patch to 137% damage with talents and such) + the wicked seal of vengeance effect, which 33% of weapon damage as holy is being non-mitigated by armor, and crits are 66% (double damage) as holy, so if you had 2k weapon damage (as example) that's an additional 1345 damage or whatever 66% is, way better than Seal of Blood ever did, PLUS atm the dot ticks for 1500 per 3 seconds in raid for me, and they are buffing it? Wow, this will be amazing constant damage, and it will be reapplied constantly with CS having 4 second cd. No one is going to sit there and spam cleanse to take 1 dot stack away at a time, so funny....and if you stack it on everyone with divine storm, hahaha....thanks for cool stuff Blizz, I might actually reactivate my WOW account before 3.2 comes out!

[Mjss]

Us enhancement shamans need more buttons too... but instead of burst we have sucky damage. I think enhance should have weapon specs, and be able to use swords... and again, different attacks... :P