Crusader strike secondary effect

[Deleted]

How about if they give crusader strike it's old effect back to refresh debuffs/stacks on the target.

-> seal of corruption -> get 5 stacks up (for 33% extra damage)
-> switch to seal of command (assuming the damage % stacks)
CS keeps refreshing the 5 stacks and thus the extra 33%

The only downside to this is on fights with a lot of movement. The switching can be tedious.
Also, having SoC up will remove the "crits deal 200% damage" that's linked to seal of corruption.


Anybody got another suggestion?

[Svenskpally]

Think its fine as it might be at 3.2

[CookieEater]

Think its fine as it might be at 3.2

It would be nice if it at least did something, as it's incredibly lackluster for a 41-point Talent. Even a debuff on the target that would state 'lolpaladin is trying to kill you' would make a lot of people's days.

[iktankniet]

i dont think its fine as it is.

the refresh is a viable option, but a bit bland. But Blizzard likes bland fixes so it has a good chance of happening. it is usable in pve and pvp

for pvp, something like CS stacks a speed debuff. each application adds 10%, max 3 stacks.

for pve, increased holy dmg taken.

on a side note, can Vengeance tick crit?

[Astray]

It would be nice if it at least did something, as it's incredibly lackluster for a 41-point Talent. Even a debuff on the target that would state 'lolpaladin is trying to kill you' would make a lot of people's days.

Yeah, at least something would be nice.

[Handsylton]

I'm assuming that when they said Vindication will cause an attack power debuff, it means "the stat that the class does damage with" debuff. I don't see how it would make any sense to try and reduce a casters AP, know what I'm sayin? It'll probably include SP as well as AP.

[Moar Pew Pew]

I'm assuming that when they said Vindication will cause an attack power debuff, it means "the stat that the class does damage with" debuff. I don't see how it would make any sense to try and reduce a casters AP, know what I'm sayin? It'll probably include SP as well as AP.

Most likely not, because Demoralizing Shout does not. Oh well.

[Xucuroz]

I'm assuming that when they said Vindication will cause an attack power debuff, it means "the stat that the class does damage with" debuff. I don't see how it would make any sense to try and reduce a casters AP, know what I'm sayin? It'll probably include SP as well as AP.

Its attack power only. They don't want melee classes "overpowering" casters anymore.

[EzriEU]

-> seal of corruption -> get 5 stacks up (for 33% extra damage)
-> switch to seal of command (assuming the damage % stacks)
CS keeps refreshing the 5 stacks and thus the extra 33%

... thus giving every melee-swing an additional 69% Weapon-Damage as Holy? Are you out of your mind?

[Ronark]

I know it would be OP, but having CS stack a damage-taken-increased debuff would be nice... stacks up to 10 times as a Magic effect (maybe?) increasing Holy damage taken by 1/2/...9/10%.

[Zhalseran]

Crusader Strike should have a 15% chance to summon a kitten to cuddle the enemy to death.

[Ninjarobot44]

How about if they give crusader strike it's old effect back to refresh debuffs/stacks on the target.

-> seal of corruption -> get 5 stacks up (for 33% extra damage)
-> switch to seal of command (assuming the damage % stacks)
CS keeps refreshing the 5 stacks and thus the extra 33%

The only downside to this is on fights with a lot of movement. The switching can be tedious.
Also, having SoC up will remove the "crits deal 200% damage" that's linked to seal of corruption.


Anybody got another suggestion?

Only problem with this idea is judging a second seal on a target removes the judgment effect of the first.

[RPGfan251]

Only problem with this idea is judging a second seal on a target removes the judgment effect of the first.

play pre wrath? judge crusader (inc. holy damage taken) then judge righteousness / command/blood

it left the crusader debuff because righteousness/command/blood only did damage not make a new debuff

[Iselian]

Crusader Strike should have a 15% chance to summon a kitten to cuddle the enemy to death.

DOES WANT