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  1. #41

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Awesome change...

    Less recasting, more up time for replenishment procs, less global cooldowns... and less mana spent in casting it.

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    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Nice, glad that Blizzard listened for once Now it's a really good bonus to combine with 2p T8 as well.

  3. #43

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Nezoia
    Nice, glad that Blizzard listened for once Now it's a really good bonus to combine with 2p T8 as well.
    if you got the ilvl 256 t9 pieces, you wont even think about wearing 2 pc t8, since 2 t9 pieces alone would bring more than the 72 pp (2pc t8) alone through theri stats, and then theres the additional t9 4pc bonus which won't decrease our dps

  4. #44

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Quote Originally Posted by plspirit
    if you got the ilvl 256 t9 pieces, you wont even think about wearing 2 pc t8, since 2 t9 pieces alone would bring more than the 72 pp (2pc t8) alone through theri stats, and then theres the additional t9 4pc bonus which won't decrease our dps
    Yes ofc, if you can magicly come up with 4pc of T9 without getting 2pc first.

  5. #45

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Quote Originally Posted by Berner
    Yes ofc, if you can magicly come up with 4pc of T9 without getting 2pc first.
    what i wanted to say is, even if there was NO 4 pc bonus at all, you would not wear 2 pc t8 and 2 pc t9 instead of t9 2+4pc (yes its magic!) because the additional 2 t9 pieces are even without any bonus worthier than two pieces t8 with 2pc bonus

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    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Quote Originally Posted by plspirit
    if you got the ilvl 256 t9 pieces, you wont even think about wearing 2 pc t8, since 2 t9 pieces alone would bring more than the 72 pp (2pc t8) alone through theri stats, and then theres the additional t9 4pc bonus which won't decrease our dps
    Given that the T9 tokens are for all slots at the same time, it'll allow us to upgrade more important pieces first.

    Example: The T8 legs are utterly shit. Get T9 legs first then, and then perhaps gloves? That way we got T8 and T9 bonuses at the same time = Epic Win Damage!

  7. #47

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Quote Originally Posted by adezero
    They just changed it to VT, dunno how much better that is really
    It's a particularly nice set bonus... it makes VT a 21 sec cycle, it means less GCD's to refresh the dot which will equate to damage and it also means it will be 3 MB cycles before MB can conflict with VT if you happen to cast VT before MB. Less conflicts also equates to higher dps.

  8. #48

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    I think it's a good bonus and I'm happy with it, but it doesn't really stand out from the others, it's about the same dps gain.

    T8 2pc:
    DP is about 15% total damage so it's 15*0.15= 2.25% gain in total damage.

    T8 4pc:
    Too situational to estimate.

    T9 2pc:
    Saves you a GCD every 52.5sec, assuming 1.2sec GCD it's 1.2/52.5=2.3% gain.

    T9 4pc:
    MF is about 40% of total dmg and 5% more crit and 104.5% crit bonus dmg (metagem) it's 40*0.05*1.045=2.1% gain.

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    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Basically we get 2 extra VT ticks for the same amount of mana, meaning we can push a extra two Mind Flays in.

    That's *awesome* on a high level.

  10. #50

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    for Singletarget youre right, but if it comes to multi doting , the t9 2pc will rock and safe you more gcd's :>


    t8 4pc is theoretical ~40% up (guessed) but mostly u cant benefit from the extra haste results in maybe ~50-60 extra perma haste

    T9 pc4 Would insanly rock on Vesax or Hodir ! but its very good too on every other fight too:>

    This time, im happy with both bonus

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    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Yes, it's actually pretty insane on multi-target dps, and typical for raid-dungeons, the more difficult the encounters get, the more complex they become, and thus more targets there will be.

    So overall it's a really super set bonus! Perhaps even slightly overpowered. (Don't tell Blizzard that!)

  12. #52

    Re: Shadow: Tier 9 2PC

    Yes, that's true, it will be very good on mimiron phase 4 type fights with 2-3 targets. Dmg/cast from VT will be huge, as long as you have enough targets to cast it on.

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