THE infamous Exodus Yogg +0 Exploit

[Jukaï]

When he would get Rezzed he would only have 10% health so he could heal the 90% with righteous fury on so he would get all the threat.

Notice the word 'new'. Thanks.

[Gish]

Ensidia has exploited/cheated multiple world firsts. World first Vashj and Hard Mode Hodir (25-man) come to mind. Not to mention they buy gold so they don't have to farm. Is that the best EU has to offer? A bunch of no-lifing, gold buying WoW players who are hypocrits?

Evidence of this.

None.

Quote by Zemme
Our first raid since the kill was today, we found the exploit that makes phase 3 a tank and spank and the easiest phase of the whole fight almost instantly (its so easy to pull off, im suprised it took this long for a guild to use it), ofcourse we arent going to kill it like that. We mailed Daelo about it, whether we make it public or not is not upto me, personally id like to show how its done with a small fraps.

So how bout we all just w8 a while and see what blizzard have to say about this bug and if or not exodus used it

[seam]

but i dont think it's counts as world first if ANY exploits are used

Ill mark off Ensidia's Algalon kill then.

[Rex03]

Ensidia is just envious, because they didn't got world first.

No world first by Ensidia = No money from sponsor ( or whoever subsidizes them )

O Noes, looks like Ensidia won't be getting a paycheck to play wow like the spoiled average players they are.... Maybe their mgmt will abandon them and pick up a new guild to pay off cause it looks like Ensidia has to make up useless propaganda smear campaign due to the fact that they cant preform as #1. BYE BYE ENSIDIA.... LOL GTFO

[Elica]

O Noes, looks like Ensidia won't be getting a paycheck to play wow like the spoiled average players they are.... Maybe their mgmt will abandon them and pick up a new guild to pay off cause it looks like Ensidia has to make up useless propaganda smear campaign due to the fact that they cant preform as #1. BYE BYE ENSIDIA.... LOL GTFO

[Pewpewarrows]

Ill mark off Ensidia's Algalon kill then.

What did they do on Algalon?

[Rex03]

Pretty sure this is the best pic I have seen on the forums in years... Play me out Key Board Cat!

[Demgar]

And yet, all Exodus has to do to deflect the criticism is to post a fraps or a log of the kill. With all the furor going on, it's a bit damning that they have not.

This is not a court of law, so innocent until proven guilty doesn't apply. They are bring tried in the court of public opinion, and the longer it takes for them to stand up for themselves, the worse they look.

[shizno]

Its so amusing to see all ensidia haters in here claiming ensidia is basicly the root of evil and that they cant play.

Typing something on the internet doesnt make it true, remember that.

[Mascotte]

And yet, all Exodus has to do to deflect the criticism is to post a fraps or a log of the kill. With all the furor going on, it's a bit damning that they have not.

This.
A fraps or WWS report would be more then enough.
Hell even a combat log parse would be enough since evading mobs dont get hit thus any log of player x damaging guardians counters the evade story.

No evidence=guilty, welcome to the interwebs.

[Aqira]

Personally i couldn't care less if they exploited or not, but it is abit strange that no video has been posted yet as they have recorded and posted all other fights...

[Rex03]

Exodus is waiting on the wire transfers from Ensidia's sponsors. They have no need to post logs for randoms after all they are #1 and Ensidia old news. Maybe Ensidia members will get jobs as Mc Donald's and sell burgers to pay for their internet now since they cant do anything else.

[TheeZ]

Ensidia has exploited/cheated multiple world firsts. World first Vashj and Hard Mode Hodir (25-man) come to mind. Not to mention they buy gold so they don't have to farm. Is that the best EU has to offer? A bunch of no-lifing, gold buying WoW players who are hypocrits?

May I add that the Hard-Mode for Hodir was impossible until Ensidia proved that it could only be done this way.
Like they said on their forums, they wouldn't have used the exploit if it wasn't TRULY neccesary.
And because they exploited it, Blizzard changed the encounter didn't they? So it was all for the greater good.

[Travio]

May I add that the Hard-Mode for Hodir was impossible until Ensidia proved that it could only be done this way.
Like they said on their forums, they wouldn't have used the exploit if it wasn't TRULY neccesary.
And because they exploited it, Blizzard changed the encounter didn't they? So it was all for the greater good.

And if it turns out that Exodus did the exact same thing, proved that was the only way to defeat the boss as it sits (since, you know, everyone else claims it's impossible)? If Ensidia's still got the "world first" on HM Hodir even if they exploited to do it, why would it be such a bad thing that Exodus did it for HM Yogg+0 if it gets the encounter fixed?

[Deleted]

And if it turns out that Exodus did the exact same thing, proved that was the only way to defeat the boss as it sits (since, you know, everyone else claims it's impossible)? If Ensidia's still got the "world first" on HM Hodir even if they exploited to do it, why would it be such a bad thing that Exodus did it for HM Yogg+0 if it gets the encounter fixed?

Well, Ensidia was pretty honest how and what they had to do to beat Hodir, the only thing i heard from Exodus was that skill and luck made the kill possible.

On another note, getting a buff to kill a hard mode falls in a grey zone and you can argue all day long if it counts as a exploit or not. Evade bugging the adds in Yogg Phase 3 would be pretty clear.

[CSJenova]

And if it turns out that Exodus did the exact same thing, proved that was the only way to defeat the boss as it sits (since, you know, everyone else claims it's impossible)? If Ensidia's still got the "world first" on HM Hodir even if they exploited to do it, why would it be such a bad thing that Exodus did it for HM Yogg+0 if it gets the encounter fixed?

Ensidia didn't get world first on HM Hodir, nor did they claim it.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/index.php?page=864

[YigiBareTank]

And if it turns out that Exodus did the exact same thing, proved that was the only way to defeat the boss as it sits (since, you know, everyone else claims it's impossible)? If Ensidia's still got the "world first" on HM Hodir even if they exploited to do it, why would it be such a bad thing that Exodus did it for HM Yogg+0 if it gets the encounter fixed?

1) Ensidia didn't get "world first" 2-3 guilds did it pre-nerf, which is why ensidia did it. if no one had done it, they would have just waited for it to be nerfed to clear it, but they were worried that the guilds who had already unlocked that part of the algalon chain would be ahead of them if they didn't so something to get it fixed. Their use of the exploit was MUCH more to show blizz that it needed to be fixed than to merely advance their progression. Once it got nerfed they killed it 2ce more before they even got to Algalon.
2) Ensidia came right out and said they used it, that they werent proud of it, and that if it wasn't fixed they'd never use it again. Exo is saying that they did NOT use a bug or exploit and that it was sheer "luck"
These are 2 VERY different situations.

[guitarlord]

1) Ensidia didn't get "world first" 2-3 guilds did it pre-nerf, which is why ensidia did it. if no one had done it, they would have just waited for it to be nerfed to clear it, but they were worried that the guilds who had already unlocked that part of the algalon chain would be ahead of them if they didn't so something to get it fixed. Their use of the exploit was MUCH more to show blizz that it needed to be fixed than to merely advance their progression. Once it got nerfed they killed it 2ce more before they even got to Algalon.
2) Ensidia came right out and said they used it, that they werent proud of it, and that if it wasn't fixed they'd never use it again. Exo is saying that they did NOT use a bug or exploit and that it was sheer "luck"
These are 2 VERY different situations.

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[neck deep]

if you've ever been in the brain room, or tried any soulstone or di tricks, you'd realize it's far more simple than the op is stating. a di'd player gets ported to the top after induce madness ends(fixed about 3-4 weeks ago). anyone that dies in the brain room, or the tentacle room of the visions, gets ported up instantly.

after the brain hits 30% you have to manually eject yourself. i'm un-aware as to how long you can possibly stay down, as i've never sat around with my thumb up my ass and not ran to start killing guardians, but i'll certainly see if it's possible tonight.

[Krypt]

The actual way of bugging it is much simpler, as Zemme stated.

Phase 3 starts, adds spawn tank grabs threat and runs into yogg who knocks tank back. Adds evade.

Diagramatic form:

Phase 3 -> Adds spawn -> Tank presses threat buttons with adds targetted -> Tank presses w auntil hes standing in yogg's face -> yogg spits tank away -> adds are like wtf whered he go? -> adds bug.