Upcoming Arena 2v2 Bracket Changes

[Stevvo]

As a hunter, ive already given up on 2s

This thread has no effect on me

[Mjollnir]

Okay, So I have 2 characters i play in arena, both of them have higher 3v3 than 2v2.

I have a resto druid (yay op) who face rolled to 2.2k with 2 piece resto hateful, 3 piece savage boomkin, and the rest pve boomkin pieces. I played Dk / Warrior / Druid. I literally respecced one day, got picked up by 2 random friends, and facerolled to weapons. (haven't played resto since s4).

After i got gear, i did 2's and am still progressing in it.

On my Rogue, I play Mage / Rogue... Just hit 1950 in 2's. But i have been 2350 in 3's as RMP with that same mage for a couple weeks.

I really don't see how people can say 2's is any worse than 3's... Any Cleave team / RMP can faceroll even HIGHER than in 2's.

I know 2.2k and 2.3k is not that high, but it got me the gear people are complaining about.

Imo 3s is actually easier than 2s, it takes less tactic and its the main reason why people don't enjoy it (asside the fact that if you don't have a decent rating you cant get a decent 3s partner/partner thats available to arena at you're time)

In 2s it gets situational, sure there are Faceroll teams, but same shit applies for 3s. Only reason why its hard to balance 2s is because WoW is based on raids or BGs rather than 1v1 to 3v3 situations. Its why FPS games like TF2,CS, Gears of War,Halo 3 are good, because it has alot of tactics involved.

Plus if you hate grinding and don't know why? the reason why you hate grinding is because its the same rotation over and over. Charge-Mortal Strike - Whirlwind - Execute or Cheapshot - Mutilate - Evis - Mutilate - Mutilate - Evis. Same thing everytime. Unlike PvP its more on situation than the same routine. In 3v3, its situational, but there isn't much tactics involved asside hiding behind a pillar, Unlike 2s, a great example such as rogue/mage would have lots of situations such as resetting, Kiting, Surviving, Bursting, CC timing and unable to cause many errors. In 3s its like rogue/priest, Burst switch - Burst Switch (Obviously CC please don't list the obvious) until one of them dies. Cleave teams are like Druid/DK, Just stick onto a target and train them down, not much effort is put into 3s, which is why it isn't popular enough, but instead blizzard doesn't understand this picture as they just want the comp as a sport rather than an MMORPG. So why don't we make Aion a sport? honestly, its ridiculously.

My opinion about the change: Its OK at least people can get the chance to get 4/5 of the seasons gear, although hopefully t1 weapons would be included too. Otherwise it wouldn't be fair. Especially with the resilience buff reducing damage by X Percent. Weapons are very important in s7 for any melee and caster.

[whitehead]

i think the whole pet having a quest thing is a joke. this just sum what proves that blizz is running out of ideas.

[Asaron]

I don't PVP/arena for the pure reason that I don't have time to after raiding/farming/enjoying summer. But this is the equivalent of saying

"Sorry 10man guilds dispite what we said in the beginning, you can't get weapon upgrades or shoulders in 10man instances anymore. You need a 25man guild to do that. You also can't get 10man protodrakes for all your time and effort,."

No it isn't, because balancing 10 man raids does not conflict with balancing 25 man raids at all.

They aren't stopping 2v2 purely because they can't balance it. They are stopping 2v2 because they can't simultaneously balance it with the other brackets. There is no reasonable way to do so. In one bracket you'll have a single DPS trying to bring someone down while a single healer is trying to keep them up. How can you balance that without breaking the other brackets in which the 1 healer has to keep someone up through 2 dps?

Something had to give, and imo 2v2 was the right choice.

[Olefunk]

They aren't stopping 2v2 purely because they can't balance it. They are stopping 2v2 because they can't simultaneously balance it with the other brackets. There is no reasonable way to do so. In one bracket you'll have a single DPS trying to bring someone down while a single healer is trying to keep them up. How can you balance that without breaking the other brackets in which the 1 healer has to keep someone up through 2 dps?

Well, we all witnessed the massive changes when wotlk was out. Why are you saying Blizz can't bring the classes to a competent level? So far warr, dk got their buffs and nerf and are more normal now than early wotlk. Still they leave a class with 5'' spell immunity, 1' of 90% evasion active in arenas.
My personal opinion for 2v2 combos is that 2x dps are way more fun than dps+mother Teresa. I myself play huntard+retri. Up to 1750 but at least it's fun to play with.

[d9d9]

My personal opinion for 2v2 combos is that 2x dps are way more fun than dps+mother Teresa. I myself play huntard+retri. Up to 1750 but at least it's fun to play with.

With latest changes to resilience it looks like 2dd teams will suck.

[Hallak]

I wonder why. I'm glad. 2v2 is gone.

there I fixed it for you.

[Broachster14]

Keep it the way it was imo, if not seems like
a good time to finally quit

[skif]

For some people arena doesnt mean anything at all, for others like me - arena is the only thing why are they playing this game.
My favourite bracket is 2v2, and the changes im seeing makes, me wanna quit this game. 2v2 bracket is most entertaining to play, and for some reason the hardest. Why ? cus when you face counter combos you need to do everything possible to overcome it. I play for a warrior with, a prot pala in 2v2, and when i see a DK/pala, i know i have no chance in beating them, but i accept it how it is.
3v3 is too unbalanced ! Tbh im not an excellent player, and it took me about 2 moths to get to 2200 in 2v2, while i scored 2250 in 3v3 in 2 days, playing ret/war/druid... is that the best play experience its offering ?
5v5 are interesting to play tho, but its really hard to make a team like one. having all 5 people online at the same time is sort of a miracle...
Tbh i dont understand why blizzards are nerfing 2v2. Why cant i take shoulders or weapon, does it offend someone ? and the title, its just a title like any other else. Its hard to get it anyway, but now its impossible in 2v2, whats the reason about that ?
Nerfing 2v2 will only result im more good pvpers quitng the game. it wount be better for nobody.

[TankVX]

I shoul be able to play what i like,who like 3v3 will play it anyway so give me beck 2v2