Yogg-Saron +0 Strategy by Stars

[Glorn]

mkay, 99% impossible. Happy, smartass?

It's not 99% impossible,they didn't have incredible luck.

It's perfect coordination,hours of training,impressive tactic and great execution!

[Cronnix]

cronnix, enlighten us as to how you would make the game hard?

make all bosses at the same level of difficulty as yogg+0 ?

Google Mortal online, and enjoy reading what a hard game is. Otherwise, you are welcome to take your time to think what can make wow hard, instead of bugging me :P

But smarter bosses and more ability usage in raids would surely help, if we now mention PVE.

[Dammagia]

That kind of shit is fucking hilarious. Europe is a continent, not a country like the US. I'd never be proud of an english kill because it isn't my country. Hell, even if a german guild would get a world first I would never write some crap like "german > all".

I think People outside the US play on US and Pacific realms, same for the Chinese realms?

But we have to acknowledge that there is rivalry between the "server stacks" of US/EU/CN

Gratz to Stars for working out the strategy and proving to the world they are a force to be reckoned with.

[Cronnix]

It's not 99% impossible,they didn't have incredible luck.

It's perfect coordination,hours of training,impressive tactic and great execution!

And as said, 99% of guilds wont have the hours to train, great tactics and perfect coordination.

[Marrakech]

all raid bosses should be like this, half the fun is finding a strategy that works

just gearing up and doing things as intended is boring as fcuk

[TobiasX]

And that is why majority of those whining are idiots. Because they just want to whine. They don't care for the actual difficulty in the game, they just want to whine. You say WoW is to easy then say you don't care to do the hard stuff. Hypocrit.

Slight adjustment to this. Gratz to Stars for getting the World First but the game is still being aimed at people who simply aren't good at it. To people who raided through TK / SSC / MH / BT (not Sunwell) the bosses on normal are not difficult. They're irritating at times, but never difficult. Hard Modes are a poor excuse for making a boss too easy to begin with just so that people who don't know how to play can say they beat it.
Screw 4 Watchers, I'd rather 0 Watchers was the Only mode to Yogg Saron. Ideally I'd rather they ripped the entire Normal Mode idea out of the game and the raids were always set to Hard Mode. Better to bang your head against a boss for a month and feel you earned the kill than slap it for an hour and watch it fall over.

[Ghurrnna]

PVE'ers will never "get" arena monkeys just as PVP'ers will not understand hardcore raiders.regardless of class stacking. this was a well executed and well worked plan and the guild deserves nothing but praise.

as for all the " 1 encounter doesnt make the game hard" morons remember 2 things.

1) you would be the first QQ on these forumns if you couldnt kill something after 2 attempts

2) if you dont like the game,the doors thataway ------->

[smt1]

So much for EJ and Ensidia theorycrafting. GJ Stars on not hiding the strategy and posting it, wish other elite guilds did the same to help community.

Most people on EJ thought it was fully killable, unlike Ensidia.

[gatgat]

Slight adjustment to this. Gratz to Stars for getting the World First but the game is still being aimed at people who simply aren't good at it. To people who raided through TK / SSC / MH / BT (not Sunwell) the bosses on normal are not difficult. They're irritating at times, but never difficult. Hard Modes are a poor excuse for making a boss too easy to begin with just so that people who don't know how to play can say they beat it.
Screw 4 Watchers, I'd rather 0 Watchers was the Only mode to Yogg Saron. Ideally I'd rather they ripped the entire Normal Mode idea out of the game and the raids were always set to Hard Mode. Better to bang your head against a boss for a month and feel you earned the kill than slap it for an hour and watch it fall over.

I think your in the minority here, ya I love a challenge. But spending a month to kill the first boss of a 14 boss instance, no thank you. Hard modes have there flaws, and if you dont like me fine, but its as close as we can get to having your cake and eating it too.

The hard modes are challenging, none of them are Muru hard, but they do take practice and good execution.

[Ave07]

Hope Blizzard doesn't nerf this fight in the future.

[orioon]

SO now that Stars posted their strat, how long do you think it will take another guild to down it?

[Learbear]

I like how people are complaining that the game is still to easy and one boss wont change that because almost no one will kill it because it is too hard.

[Cronnix]

I like how people are complaining that the game is still to easy and one boss wont change that because almost no one will kill it because it is too hard.

And as we all know, one single hard boss makes whole game hard.. yeah.. makes sense..

[Amgyn]

SO now that Stars posted their strat, how long do you think it will take another guild to down it?

doesnt take long probably 1 reset.

as soon as a boss is downed.. he is on farm status within 2-3 weeks, then comes the QQ about how easy the game is.

[Hoviboy]

Even though, I'm sure they sat down and thought about which players to bring but they also thought very carefully about their strat. 25 man gives you room to be flexible with raid comp thus allowing you to bring more of one class if you so choose. 10 man, it is not so much. this is ofc imo. If an angry STARS member came out and stated "WTF? I got sat out for some warlock for Yogg + 0?" then I can see that applying but if they were careful to bring their best players, but focus a little more on one class, how is that not remembering "bring the player not the class" ?

Thank you Kaelwryn, This is an interesting point of view

[Vehemence]

So much for EJ and Ensidia theorycrafting. GJ Stars on not hiding the strategy and posting it, wish other elite guilds did the same to help community.

This a thousand times.

[Gobbledigook]

The only people hating are the ones who have not, and will not ever achieve what stars did. They know this, so they make themselves feel better by downplaying the greater achievements of others. It's pretty old and well known psychology. Jealously is a bitch.

As for WoW being easy mode, the majority of it is. Leveling, maxing profs, and getting decently geared are all things that require lots of time and 0 skill. But, aside from those things, there are very difficult things to accomplish. Just because you yourself can't accomplish them, for whatever reason, doesn't make them irrelevant, impossible or boring.

Great Job to stars, and thanks for showing the strat!

[TobiasX]

I think your in the minority here,

Raiders were always the minority pre-WotLK. Serious raiders still are, unfortunately, but I accept it.

ya I love a challenge. But spending a month to kill the first boss of a 14 boss instance, no thank you.

I'm not saying every boss should be as hard as Yogg 0, but no boss should be as FL with 0 towers up was. No boss should really have been as easy as XT was without heartbreaker either.

Hard modes have there flaws, and if you dont like me fine, but its as close as we can get to having your cake and eating it too.

I have no problem with you, assuming that should've read "if you don't like them fine"?
Nobody should "have their cake and eat it" in anything.

The hard modes are challenging, none of them are Muru hard, but they do take practice and good execution.

I still think that having anything other than Hard Mode encounters is a mistake. It'll make a lot of money for Blizzard, or they wouldn't be doing it, but it's still a mistake for the game as a whole.

[Punks]

CN > EU > US

GG?

Again you fail it's,

CN = EU = US

We're all brothers from another mother. Sad you cannot see it.

[AK_47]

I was waiting for such post.

Thank you.