Warriors OP

[arxidia]

Oh yea then there's that other tiny little thing that makes your healing drop 75%. But that's not even worth mentioning right?

i think he also forgot the largest HP pool in the game... and the 25% he said thats not worth enraged regenaration is 7k HP :P


a class is made good by 4 factors

DMG -- GREAT plus coupled with MS

survivability--- more than great(HP pool , armor ,shield block, shield wall, spell reflect,second wind,enraged regeneration,retaliation,interveene to get out of harms way.. )

kitability---nothing can kite a warrior expcept a mage that knows what hes doing...hamstring (undispellable) and charge

CC --- only a fear which is low but if the warrior is IMBA he can cyclone or sheep others using reflect


overall warriors are VERY good in ALL theese factors...that makes them OP IN THE RIGHT HANDS, in a noobs hands they are just another class thats above average

[Hypnotik]

warriors didnt get changed to much
troll else where

i agree i think warriors overall right now are where they need to be

[mbsaan]

prot needs more aoe threat otherwiseya they are fine

[Sesshoumaru]

Arms PvP

People have to understand how a warrior works before they can complain about it.

First we must note that there is 3 things that make a character good in PvP.
-CC's
-DMG
-Survivablity (heals, last stand, BoP, Pain suppression, immunity to stuns etc.)

For survivablity, warriors are average. We can use shield block against melee, Shield wall against all classes, Disarm and spell reflect. As well as enrage regen. Shield block isnt the greatest defense because there isnt many classes that melee. Even then they can stun you and you cant block when ur stunned. Enrage regen isn't really a good move to try and save yourself when at 25% health cause it heals over time.

For CC's warriors have very very little. All warriors have is hamstring which is only a 25% chance to immoblize the target (Nothing close to Chains of Ice from a Dk). As well as a 2 minute fear which isnt bad. When comparing to druids, mages, rogues, DK's, warriors CC's seem almost laughable.

DMG is the only thing that makes a warrior good. Even the idea of a warrior is to be a high Hp, armored and damaging class.

Overall warriors have almost nothing for CC's, shield wall for that one time save, and DMG. If warriors damage is removed you are left with a useless character.

Also note that if you get a new item that reduces melee damage by 5%. all melee will lose 5% DMG except warriors who will lose, this is a guess, 7%-10% because of how the rage mechanic works. This also means that if rogues get an item that gives 10 agi and then another 10 agi and then another and so on. He will get a constant increase in DMG while warriors who get 10 str and then another will get an exponental increase in dmg because he will be getting more rage. More rage -> more dmg and vise versa.

Inconclusion that means that warriors are very gear based and is effected greatly on opponents gear and our own. We have little CC's, Average survivablity and good DMG. Damage is the only thing that makes a warrior function as a good PvP class, if u nerf it warriors become useless.

Omg, thats underpowered look at ret pallys, lets think about a duel, ret vs ms war:
Ohh no RET HAZ OMG BUBBLEZ !
oh wait you can dispel it... (+ms effect, + more survival, dmg is quite balanced between them if u dont count the ms, and CC is almost the same bullshit, since the fear is AoE and fear is alot more op than a fucking repentence, if u add it with HoJ it´s almost the same so on that level also quite balanced)
damn

[mogulkhan]

Ret paladins crying about warriors.

Now i've seen everything.

[thegrunt]

There is no change in 3.2 that affected the pvpdamage of Warriors. Get that.
By the wy the thread-opener cannot be serious. I play warrior, Dk, druid and Shaman
in high rated arenas and the most overpowered class is resto druid, yet.
The innervate change and glyph is overpowered: Healing-bomb that doenst ever gets oom
even if manaburned. This is my point of view and im playin my drood as well.
An full furious geared Resto druid laughs at a similar equipped warrior. In this connection thethreadopener
seems to wear hatefull items and complains about eating shit when a s6-warrior
is smashing his 1600'-lol-rate-head. Casual-complains fuck wow up, ' cause they're comming in tons.

This thread is as ridiculous as my english-skills.

[arxidia]

There is no change in 3.2 that affected the pvpdamage of Warriors. Get that.
By the wy the thread-opener cannot be serious. I play warrior, Dk, druid and Shaman
in high rated arenas and the most overpowered class is resto druid, yet.
The innervate change and glyph is overpowered: Healing-bomb that doenst ever gets oom
even if manaburned. This is my point of view and im playin my drood as well.
An full furious geared Resto druid laughs at a similar equipped warrior. In this connection thethreadopener
seems to wear hatefull items and complains about eating shit when a s6-warrior
is smashing his 1600'-lol-rate-head. Casual-complains fuck wow up, ' cause they're comming in tons.

This thread is as ridiculous as my english-skills.

the druid doesnt OOM of playing with DK or WARR... with rogiues they DO go OOM :P

[Hypnotik]

Ret paladins crying about warriors.

Now i've seen everything.

tell me about it..

[Busterblade]

i think he also forgot the largest HP pool in the game... and the 25% he said thats not worth enraged regenaration is 7k HP :P[/b]

When i said this i ment that when u are low on health and need a move to save you from big hits, like sheild wall, Enrage regen. isnt that great. If you fight a dk who can hit for 8k some times that little heal over time isnt going to save you. Im not saying it is bad im just saying for arena it isnt the greatest saving move.

Omg, thats underpowered look at ret pallys, lets think about a duel, ret vs ms war:
Ohh no RET HAZ OMG BUBBLEZ !
oh wait you can dispel it... (+ms effect, + more survival, dmg is quite balanced between them if u dont count the ms, and CC is almost the same bullshit, since the fear is AoE and fear is alot more op than a fucking repentence, if u add it with HoJ it´s almost the same so on that level also quite balanced)
damn

First of all you said the word duel. Some characters do better then other in duels. Second is that pallies who complain about there bubby being removed should be ready to cast half a heal, cancel the cast and when you see the warrior using Shattering throw to use rep. or HoJ and stop the cast. If both is on CD you should hide somewhere to LoS and try again or wait a few more seconds for you CC to be off CD. Also since im talking about arena this split 2-3 seconds will give you amply of time for a healer to keep you up.

P.S. What i am saying is about before the 3.2 patch, idk know now.

[Jutteri]

warriors got a minor ap bosot and thats about it. But im pretty sure this topic is made because there is not really anything else to QQ. Ret got a decent burst nerf, druids gota little nerf and dk's if im right. There needs to be at least something to QQ you know.

[ponth]

the only issue I have is battle charging in combat, its a huge no no imo, theres only 1 blink so there should only be 1 intercept because a warriror should be constantly kited, not be sitting on top of squishy clothies that cant get away. If im good enough to get them into combat without getting battle charged, I should be able to blink every intercept and GG. A warrior should be nothing but a play toy to any decent mage.

So what you're saying is basically that game mechanics should prevent a warrior from ever touching you unless you forget to blink?

[Wac]

[Idaho Immortal]

didn't read the whole thread... but did you read patch notes? execute? burst is nerfed.



I feed off your qq.