Late t9 hat spec? maces?

[chocobo]

ok, ive been doing some thinking about the HAT in late t9 content, thers no fist from 25man hard, only 10man hard, the facebreaker , and it seems the best weapons by stats are maces,(shadowpanther.net) from 25man hard we seem to get axes too so its sword spec for combat , however the combat mace spec should shine with good gear in late t9 content. Im currently playing HAT spec, so herse my question to other HAT spec users will this spec be any good if we aim for the maces, http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?rogu...&version=10192, MH Mace and OH 1.4 dagerr. Is another mace for OH ar pen better or maybe stick with a dagger for the crits from cqc? and if this spec is bad, im guessing we staying with the 10man hard fist, or mace ENV hat? if we look only at the wapons stats.

sorry for bad english

[BrontoÐ]

Seems like a waste to spec 5/5 in two weapon specialzations, when you could spec in Slaughter from the Shadows.

[chocobo]

Seems like a waste to spec 5/5 in two weapon specialzations, when you could spec in Slaughter from the Shadows.

could you explain to me why do i need lower cost on hemo?? the 5/5 in both weapon spec is for 5%crit if i use dagger for OH, and 15% armor pen for mh atacks.
sorry but ur argument is rly without any reasoning for me, unelss u explain it.

[Firestar31]

As far as I know, the 5% crit bonus form CQC will only apply to your (white) offhand attacks when wielding a mace in your MH and a dagger or fist weapon in your OH. Thus, CQC really isn't very good for you.
Personally, I don't see the point in Slaughter from the Shadows either, since with a HaT spec, you shouldn't be using that attack very often. Personally, I'd spec into something like this and use a Dagger in my MH:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxbZ...hZxbfbhhddAzVc

[chocobo]

As far as I know, the 5% crit bonus form CQC will only apply to your (white) offhand attacks when wielding a mace in your MH and a dagger or fist weapon in your OH. Thus, CQC really isn't very good for you.
Personally, I don't see the point in Slaughter from the Shadows either, since with a HaT spec, you shouldn't be using that attack very often. Personally, I'd spec into something like this and use a Dagger in my MH:
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhxbZ...hZxbfbhhddAzVc

well dagger for MH even th slowes 1.8 will be too fast, for hat, and the poison wont be aplied as often as with a slow weapon, also about CQC well if i think of HAT mace spec, i have to put the points somewhere, so why not in CQC and have some crits from OH, or 2 in CQC and 5 in precision, but geting high on hitrate wont be any good imo.

[Amstelkid]

Mace, I doubt it...
But I think this will work more with T9
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhhbZ...hzdAzVc:dfkVzc

[Plawsky]

well dagger for MH even th slowes 1.8 will be too fast, for hat, and the poison wont be aplied as often as with a slow weapon, also about CQC well if i think of HAT mace spec, i have to put the points somewhere, so why not in CQC and have some crits from OH, or 2 in CQC and 5 in precision, but geting high on hitrate wont be any good imo.

Why does it matter if you have a dagger in your MH? I thought for hat you just wanted as high of a dps as you could get - since evis doesn't scale off weapon damage.

[chocobo]

Why does it matter if you have a dagger in your MH? I thought for hat you just wanted as high of a dps as you could get - since evis doesn't scale off weapon damage.

the weapon speed is basicly to apply wound poison. the slower weapon the higher the PPM, and with dagger its abviously lower due the faster wepon speed compared to fist, and now in 3.2 the poisons crit also proc the CP, so you want to have as many PPM as possible so u pick the slowest weapon possible

Mace, I doubt it...
But I think this will work more with T9
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhhbZ...hzdAzVc:dfkVzc

as i said in 3.2 u want as many PPM possible casue it increases the chance for crit so 3/3 LR and 2/5 agression looks better. also that option is said to be better at the EJ forums

[Voij]

[...] and now in 3.2 the poisons crit also proc the CP[...]

Wait, what? O_O

Can anyone confirm this for me?

[chocobo]

Wait, what? O_O

Can anyone confirm this for me?

here u go.

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t38187-f...6/#post1342336

[Voij]

here u go.

http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t38187-f...6/#post1342336

Nice... maybe I'll try HaT-spec again sometime.