Attunement

[Léonál]

Still stops the people who just dinged 80 running around thinking they're the dogs bollox though at the end of the day. Would really like it if they did bring back attunements for raid dungeons Remember doing the SSC/TK>BT/MH one, absolutely loved it!

[Burner]

Still stops the people who just dinged 80 running around thinking they're the dogs bollox though at the end of the day. Would really like it if they did bring back attunements for raid dungeons Remember doing the SSC/TK>BT/MH one, absolutely loved it!

some of you forget almost everyone who dings 80 now already has 1 if not 5 80's and it would be a pain in the ass.... quite frankly I wouldnt even bother running up any more characters if I had to spend days working towards entering a instance.

some of us like to play more than one character and attunements would ruin it. WoW is enough of a time sink as it is.

Blizzard is here to make $ and gain customers not lose them.

Thread is all QQ "omg omg he can get the same gear I can, but not play as many hours, qq, qq"

[Léonál]

some of you forget almost everyone who dings 80 now already has 1 if not 5 80's already and it would be a pain in the ass.... quite frankly I wouldnt even bother running up any more characters if I had to spend days working towards entering a instance.

some of us like to play more that one character and attunements would ruin it. WoW is enough of a time sink as it is.

Blizzard is here to make $ and gain customers not lose them.

Thread is all QQ "omg omg he can get the same gear I can, but not play as many hours, qq, qq"

Not really because some of the ideas thought here like attunement account wide would be brilliant for this. So no its not QQ.. i just think it'd be a nice addition back into the game to separate the slackers and the dedicated

[Burner]

Not really because some of the ideas thought here like attunement account wide would be brilliant for this. So no its not QQ.. i just think it'd be a nice addition back into the game to separate the slackers and the dedicated

account wide might be a nice thing. I didnt see that post.
I think more things should be account wide.


there's no slackers vs dedicated. It's called working for a living and some have to work a little harder and more than others so they cant spend 1/2 their time on a game and other 1/2 work.

btw yes I think ToC is a bit too easy for people to run in and get free good epics daily.

[Malania]

account wide might be a nice thing. I didnt see that post.
I think more things should be account wide.


there's no slackers vs dedicated. It's called working for a living and some have to work a little harder and more than others so they cant spend 1/2 their time on a game and other 1/2 work.

btw yes I think ToC is a bit too easy for people to run in and get free good epics daily.

Well there was 4-5 in a row, so were only posting to QQ about people wanting to take away shit you never earned?

[Milamber]

Difficulty > Attunements.

[Dark Side]

i think that your toons should be more linked. people get denied from ulduar pugs on their alts because they lack a certain achievment on that toon but have it on their main (more specificly would be a fall of naxaramas type deal) i think if they bring attunments back it should be in the idea that ll your toons share one achievment board

[Master Guns]

You could call me a hardcore raider. I'm somewhat of a fanatic of hard encounters, and I feel a sense of pride when taking down a new boss or clearing a raid zone for the first time.
I think it was a cool idea for attunements for end xpac raids.
I personally think there should be some kind of an Attunement for IC. I just don't think everyone should be able to waltz in there. It just doesn't seem right. I mean GG, at least a semi hard quest chain or SOMETHING.

[Weena]

Personally i think there should simply be an achievement that explains the lore of the place, nothing too hard, nor boring. I think the karazhan achievement was very good, the BT/MH ones not so good.

[Karkmnopfler]

They should make the keys you get at the end of the chain purchaseable and BoA

[Wysmark]

In TBC attunement was redundant because heroics werent pushovers

Thats the single biggest fuckup Blizzard made... NOONE does normal mode, because for some reason normals and heroics are the samme difficulty only with slightly higher numbers.

Remember Mechanar? 1st boss got a Thaddius like ability on heroic, 2nd bos got and extra elemental (and they moved faster) and last boss got an aoe ability.

Today i saw a char with lowlvl blues and some greens, but wearing 2 pieces of T8,5...

Blizzard...attunements or difficulty...make normal dungeons a requirement in the gearing up process

[Pheonixis]

In TBC attunement was redundant because heroics werent pushovers

Thats the single biggest fuckup Blizzard made... NOONE does normal mode, because for some reason normals and heroics are the samme difficulty only with slightly higher numbers.

Remember Mechanar? 1st boss got a Thaddius like ability on heroic, 2nd bos got and extra elemental (and they moved faster) and last boss got an aoe ability.

Today i saw a char with lowlvl blues and some greens, but wearing 2 pieces of T8,5...

Blizzard...attunements or difficulty...make normal dungeons a requirement in the gearing up process

Yes. The times when heroics actually were hard, but still actually worth the trouble. Casuals in all might, but even casuals should be able to put a little more time on an instance, and actually pay attention. It's like "This fire hurt me and kills me in two seconds!", so Blizz decides to lower it's damage so it kills you in 5 seconds, effectively giving the "slow" people an extra three seconds to realize that they're standing in something that does damage to them. Bottom line this game is easy (hello overused statement).
I endorse attunements. I think they're good to keep the stupid people out of raids. Right now anyone can faceroll Naxx without the basic knowledge that fire=bad. Back then you knew that the people you brought to a raid at least had some experience in instances. And even Karazhan was way hard.

[jpwkeeper]

Still stops the people who just dinged 80 running around thinking they're the dogs bollox though at the end of the day. Would really like it if they did bring back attunements for raid dungeons Remember doing the SSC/TK>BT/MH one, absolutely loved it!

No, it makes people who get dragged through it by their overgeared friends feel like they're the dogs bollox, while the skill players you WANT in your raid can't get anyone to group with them for the attunement because everyone else is too freaking busy raiding.

That leaves you stuck with the fail raiders because you can't take the time to run the skilled but unattuned players waiting in the wings begging night after night for anyone in the guild to group with them for the freaking attunement, while that person sits and watches the raiders get 5 of their alts together and attune them instead.

Then that person finally PUGs the attunements, gets into the raid, only to find that they're so far behind in gear that they won't get accepted to the raid anyway. Even though they Out-DPS half the people who are geared to the teeth and raiding thinking they are the Dogs Bollox because they took off 2 weeks from work to make sure they dinged 70 so fast that all of their friends would be wanting to do the attunement as well.

The argument for attunment separating the scrubs from the good raiders is as fail as the argument that gear has ever told you how good someone is. Especially since the people actually raiding never take the time to run these people through the attunements, which can never be done alone.

So you people who hate raiding with scrubs should really consider how lack of attunement helps you get the right people into your raids before voting yes.

[Figoment]

Kara pug late tbc I had the key.

Raidleader "Does anyone have the key?"
All other raid members "No"
RL "Figo what about you"
Me(figo) "ummm yes"
Figoment has left the raid group

Next 2 hours I see in trade
"Lf1m kara badge run must have key"