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    Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Update - Changed the % of confirmed info from 90% to 99.9%. Let's hope that Paris won't be too cold tomorrow.

    Blizzcon Tomorrow!
    The Blizzcon starts tomorrow, the Cataclysm expansion will be announced during the opening ceremony and I already have a nice preview up :


    Again, this isn't confirmed by Blizzard yet but I really do not doubt most of my information at this point. Let's say that ... at least 90% 99.9% of it should be accurate.


    Blue posts
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Disparities between tanks
    Are you struggling on hard mode raid encounters because your guild picked the wrong tank? I understand that some of you are, but according to our data, it’s a pretty small minority of players trying those encounters. If you’re just offended that the health pools are not identical, then your argument isn’t going to carry as much weight as a guild that hit a brick wall because they didn’t have the best tank for an encounter.

    When druids couldn’t apply the Thunderclap debuff, that was considered a big problem. The fact that a druid can’t interrupt as well as a warrior is still considered a big problem by some. We used to let abilities such as Berserker Rage, Spell Reflect or Intervene play big roles on some encounters, but that inevitably leads to one tank being massively better on one encounter than another. None of the deltas are massive in the current game in our opinion, and we think that the number of cases of players who state with certainty that they can detect a difference is overstated. (Source)

    [...] I’ll attempt to explain this at a vision level. In my experience, the community tries to approach game design too often with “laws.” They know “Any tank class can be MT” is something we want to accomplish, but then they take that to trump all other concerns and expect identical tanking classes to be the only possible outcome. That’s not how game design works. Player flexibility (bringing who you want) is a big concern. But so is class distinction. So is making the game approachable. So is making sure all the classes are fun. It may seem like an inherent contradiction when you have two design goals heading in opposite direction (simplicity vs. depth may be the most obvious one). But that doesn’t mean all other concerns can get swept aside. You have to take everything into consideration when you make changes. (Source)

    Death Knight
    Primary strikes inferor to disease builders
    That was a direct response to the diseaseless rotations that just spammed strikes. Because DKs use a pseudo combo point system (in that they can use their "finishers" whenever they want), things have strayed into ignoring the finishers or over-utilizing them from time to time.

    I suspect it has more to do with the difficulty of keeping diseases up in a PvP environment coupled with the benefits of ranged attacks. The IT glyph is probably a little generous.

    Scourge Strike falling behind Obliterate seems to be largely a function of armor pen (a problematic stat these days in many respects). It's not at all ideal, but we don't have a great plan yet to fix it that didn't involve just buffing Scourge Strike (and possibly leading to diseaselessness again). (Source)

    Obliterate vs. Scourge Strike
    I don't think that's the whole issue. If Obliterate just beat Scourge Strike, then Unholy DKs might be using Oblit in PvP. Instead they're going to Icy Touch and Death Coil. Death Coil is supposed to be a bonus, not the centerpiece of the class. (Source)

    Mage
    Mages concerns
    My point was that we don’t want Fire / Frostfire to have to worry about mana to the extent that Arcane does. Arcane is more about pacing. Fire is more about responding to what is going on in the fight. That is not to say that Arcane should run OOM constantly or that Fire has an unalienable right to infinite mana. Try not to take my comments to illogical extremes.

    When I say we want Fire to be about cooldowns, I meant that lining up your spells at the right time is the hallmark of a great Fire mage. I know a lot of players will say either LOL mages just spam one button, or else LOL mage dps is entirely RNG. I don’t believe either to be true, and the evidence supporting this conclusion is that there are mages who can do much higher damage than other mages, consistently and with similar gear. This suggests there is a much higher skill component to mage dps than even some mages want to acknowledge. A lot of that skill component for Fire / Frostfire comes in doing things at the right time (which we hope to contrast with Arcane and ultimately Frost).

    What those things are you are supposed to manage come in several tiers: first are Scorch, Living Bomb and Hot Streak. Yes Hot Streak has an RNG component, but not entirely so. Players still have some control over it.

    Second are things like Icy Veins, Combustion, Molten Fury, trinkets and even things like Flame Caps. Yes, I know that both Fire and Frostfire mages don’t always take all of those talents. A note on Combustion in a minute.

    Third are more external cooldowns like say Bloodlust and Power Infusion. Yes, other classes benefit from these too. But mages can inflate their damage dramatically when they line these up with their other cooldowns. In the BC days, a mage who really focused on that last 20% of a fight could see their dps nearly double. (I acknowledge this was a bigger factor when Combustion was a bigger contributor.)

    Fourth are factors that have less of an effect overall. I’m talking about things like PoM and Firestarter (not included in most raiding builds), and Focus Magic and Torment the Weak (not trivial, but generally up nearly all the time too).

    Combustion isn’t good enough right now. We get that. Fire used to be more about cooldown stacking when Combustion meant more. The problem is that we’re happy with Fire damage. We don’t generally like to nerf a spec in order to buff a talent unless things are really, really off. We’ll eventually (3.3?) fix Combustion, because it’s a fun talent. But we aren’t going to do it in such a way that just grants some “free dps” unless of course mages need it at that time. If you disagree that Fire is performing well, then I can understand how you’d disagree with our course of action here. (Source)

    Priest
    Mandatory talents
    No. We're no longer in the business of giving specs a talent or ability that is so awesome that you just have to get brought to a raid. A raid should be able to function without a Shadow priest. They should want you because you're a good player, not because your presence passively makes everyone else better regardless of your individual skill.

    Now we don't want you to be a liability, which is why we want Shadow damage to be proportionately higher than it was in BC and why we want Shadow to have great utility, including Replenishment and Vampiric Embrace. No, VE is not mandatory. Yes, other specs can bring Replenishment. That's so not every raid needs an X before they can enter the instance.

    Do we see Shadow priests in raids, even in very uber guilds attempting hard modes? Yes. All the time. (Source)

    Warrior
    Rage generation scaling with gear
    When you get better gear, you do more damage. That’s progression. Assuming things scale reasonably well (though we tweak things so often now, I think scaling is less of a concern than it used to be), you should be at the same relative position to other classes as you progress. It’s a bad model that warriors start out weak but get stronger relative to other classes with gear.

    [...] Rage isn't an unalienable right. It's a resource. It has advantages and disadvantages. While you won't ever flame out the way a mage might run OOM in a long fight, you won't always have enough rage to do what you want at any given second (while the mage will probably have mana). Learning to manage that is the difference between okay warriors and great warriors.

    But suffer, suffer, suffer then explode with great gear isn't a great design. Why haven't we changed it yet? Because as with many changes of this level if we were to do it tomorrow it would feel really harsh to a lot of warriors. We do care about how our changes feel to the community, even if we sometimes decide to make unpopular calls when we think they're necessary. (Source)

    Giving Warriors more way to generate rage
    While that might be too dramatic a change, I agree that giving warriors more control over getting rage when they needed it might be a good idea. Imagine (I am totally waving my arms here and not announcing changes) an off-the-GCD Bloodlust with a much shorter cooldown. (Source)

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    great 90% true, I was scared of trusting it, but if cairne doesn't die and the garrosh thing aint true, then I'm happy and believe it.

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    in before : "where is your source"

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    90% hmm. what about those other 10%?
    Thrall might be a bit questionable, but yea the rest looks quite possible.

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    i dont want the Cataclysm info posted to be true, i dont want the cow king to die ;_;

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    So, lets see...
    They think priest's are balanced now eh?!
    And that we are not supposed to do any better dps because bla bla hybrid bla bla bla..
    Now, i would like them to justify how they are balancing paladins then..
    Really, they are great tanks, great healers, and great dps - And oh yeah, they kick ass in pvp aswell..
    So, where do we have the priest!?
    great healer, pvp healer, and eh, something they like to call a dps (pvp easy kill dummy), and "dps" in raids. :-s
    atm, spriest can't follow the lolretardin on most fights.
    Oh yeah, and then we bring a lot of utility - so that compensates for our poor dps compared to other hybrids.. -_-
    Sometimes i want to think like blizzard.
    Life would be a lot easier that way "Screw what the majority says.. I AM RIGHT! Grrrrr"

    Jesus f****** Christ...

    hand over the gun!

    Edit!
    According to blizzard:

    Paladins : Lovedolls

    Priests : Swineflu

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Might want to change your wording, Boub. It says "Cataclysm will be announced" followed by you stating it's not confirmed. May want to change it to "Cataclysm MAY be announced".
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    If they want to normalize the rage... i think that rage must be proportional to weapon speed, so to have always same rage/second.

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Riltia
    Might want to change your wording, Boub. It says "Cataclysm will be announced" followed by you stating it's not confirmed. May want to change it to "Cataclysm MAY be announced".
    There has been so much information/hints to Cataclysm by now that its highly unlikely that it wont be Cataclysm.
    Or we have all been hoaxed by Blizzard, including Boub's sources, but somehow i doubt that

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    You completely missed the fact that Gamescon is on today, and you've already missed Group A

    http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=109914

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by bbr
    90% hmm. what about those other 10%?
    Thrall might be a bit questionable, but yea the rest looks quite possible.
    Actually, I think the bit about Thrall is less questionable than the bit about how Goblins join the horde, I'm sure they do, but why would they find Thrall on an Alliance boat captured? Maybe a boat for the New Council of Tirisfal...but Captured....why?

    As far as Thrall as the new gaurdian, I think Broll will be too busy, Malfurion will return as the Druid representative of the Council, and Awegynnsdf ds fe whatever her freaking name his will not want her grandson to be the guardian, as she can not deny here protective feeling towards him, and so Thrall will step up.

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphine
    You completely missed the fact that Gamescon is on today, and you've already missed Group A

    http://www.arenajunkies.com/showthread.php?t=109914
    Yes lets watch 5 rmp's and a couple of cleave's duke it out!

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    As far as Thrall as the new gaurdian, I think Broll will be too busy, Malfurion will return as the Druid representative of the Council, and Awegynnsdf ds fe whatever her freaking name his will not want her grandson to be the guardian, as she can not deny here protective feeling towards him, and so Thrall will step up.
    imo the only thing holding varian back from capturing thrall is Jaina. could be "something" happend to her in IC.

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    SO uhhhhhh....

    Any bets on what the real % of correct stuff is?

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    So this is BASICALLY a bump for the previous 'leaked' thread that Boub posted. This makes me think that he knows he's right and he wants everyone to be reminded of his predictions. Personally I think it's very believable and WoW needs something big like this to really give it a fresh feel.

    Looking forward to Blizzcon, ordered my stream!

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    imo the only thing holding varian back from capturing thrall is Jaina. could be "something" happend to her in IC.
    That, and Thrall being a crazy-powerful shaman. Also, that might piss off Saurfang, which is a bad, bad idea. He's WoW's Chuck Norris after all.

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieshepherd
    So this is BASICALLY a bump for the previous 'leaked' thread that Boub posted. This makes me think that he knows he's right and he wants everyone to be reminded of his predictions. Personally I think it's very believable and WoW needs something big like this to really give it a fresh feel.

    Looking forward to Blizzcon, ordered my stream!
    FRICK, now we know why he said he would run naked in Paris if he was wrong...it was all one big rick roll on us, as he knew about this....a LONG time ago...*grumble*

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    Re: Blizzcon Tomorrow, Blue posts

    Again, this isn't confirmed by Blizzard yet but I really do not doubt most of my information at this point. (Let's say that ... at least 90% of it should be accurate)
    So since you've never been speculating, and your sources have confirmed the information. What 10% of the information is inaccurate? Sounds like the sources are more highly probable speculation rather then actual leaked information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rhorle
    So since you've never been speculating, and your sources have confirmed the information. What 10% of the information is inaccurate? I don't see why you'd keep possible false information secret other then the fact that your sources are more highly probably speculation then confirmed sources.
    Misinterpretion of sources and of course "change of mind" on the side of blizzard. Just because it is/was planned doesnt mean they implement/announce it.
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    i saw things which were 99% sure, goin wrong... but these are just numbers...
    i dont want them to rape kalimdor!... and i dont want Tauren Paladin... its like Chuck Norris in tutu...
    Furthermore, I consider Teldrassil must be destroyed.

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