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    And yet again GC shows knowledge!

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    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment

    Priest
    Mandatory talents
    No. We're no longer in the business of giving specs a talent or ability that is so awesome that you just have to get brought to a raid. A raid should be able to function without a Shadow priest. They should want you because you're a good player, not because your presence passively makes everyone else better regardless of your individual skill.

    Now we don't want you to be a liability, which is why we want Shadow damage to be proportionately higher than it was in BC and why we want Shadow to have great utility, including Replenishment and Vampiric Embrace. No, VE is not mandatory. Yes, other specs can bring Replenishment. That's so not every raid needs an X before they can enter the instance.

    Do we see Shadow priests in raids, even in very uber guilds attempting hard modes? Yes. All the time. (Source)

    i dunno what to say -_-

    maybe you do?

    /discuss
    According to blizzard:

    Paladins : Lovedolls

    Priests : Swineflu

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    gg

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    Brudish
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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    I dont get it..

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    While I'll usually find any opportunity to engage in GC bashing, I really don't see anything too egregious here.

    (1) I like bringing good players over "must have" class/specs.
    (2) I like that buffs like replenishment are shared over multiple class/specs.
    (3) I see Spriests in raids. I see Spriests in my raid. I see Spriests in Uber guilds.

    Where's the controversy?

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    i believe the joke is in the last sentence, top end guilds attempting hard modes aren't bringing spriests "all the time"

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by wannaspoon
    i believe the joke is in the last sentence, top end guilds attempting hard modes aren't bringing spriests "all the time"
    But they do... :/

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vashta
    But they do... :/
    yea but i think this is OP's creative way to QQ that shadow needs a dps buff.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    This thread should not exist.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blightyboy
    This thread should not exist.
    code geass [=
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    No, Vanish isn’t working properly and breaks when you breathe on the rogue funny.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    We´ve been searching for two good shadow priests for about two months now and can´t find one...

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    We're no longer in the business of giving specs a talent or ability that is so awesome that you just have to get brought to a raid.
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    Bloodlust/Heroism much?

    Yeah, not a spec etc. but that one ability is pretty much all the reason you need to bring a shaman to a raid, if he's not totaly incompetent.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by iluwen_de
    We´ve been searching for two good shadow priests for about two months now and can´t find one...
    as you said "good" shadowpriests might not exist.. but thats not the class but the player.. as with most classes

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Well the thing is shadow priest is heavily depandant on raid buffs and encounter type, try being "dps" in thorim p1 50% of your dmg done will be mind sear if in arena, gauntlet is total fail on small adds, however in 25s i can with mostly 219 ilvl gear squeeze about 5k dps, but then again, i need shaman and boomkin around.
    Quote Originally Posted by tetrisgoat
    I got full epic before losing my virginity :P

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by one_entity
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    We're no longer in the business of giving specs a talent or ability that is so awesome that you just have to get brought to a raid.
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    Bloodlust/Heroism much?

    Yeah, not a spec etc. but that one ability is pretty much all the reason you need to bring a shaman to a raid, if he's not totaly incompetent.
    In 25s, I bring Feral and boomkin for buffs.
    Banned.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blightyboy
    This thread should not exist.
    ^

    if your guild doesnt bring you to raids cuz your dps sux you should consider learning how to play your class and do more dps?

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Played my priest very casually during BC and I can't say I see much wrong in GC's response to Anail's comment as Blizzards bring the player not the class maxim has been stated ad infinitum. However relatively to other classes are shadow priests doing more DPS in Woltk than in BC or have they simply lost some utility?

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    reminds me of TBC some guy posted a vid of the purpose he wanted as a spriest:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynjIoymWHvU

    MANA MANA!

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vashta
    But they do... :/
    Could you please tell me why?

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    The buffs that feral druids and boomkins bring can be provided by other class/specs.

    Leader of the Pack <-> Rampage
    Faerie Fire <-> CoW
    Demo Roar<->Demo Shout/Imp CoW
    Mangle <-> Trauma

    Imp Moonkin <-> Swift Retribution
    Moonkin Aura <-> Elemental Oath
    Insect Swarm <-> Scorpid Sting
    Earth&Moon <-> CoE/EbonPB
    Imp Faerie Fire <-> Misery

    There aren't any "required" buffs that can only be brought by one class/spec. There are a few than can only be brought by one class (IE--Heroism, PW:F, BoK, etc).

    If you think top end guilds don't bring/recruit Spriests, then there is little I can do to convince you. Either you are in a top guild that doesn't have a Spriest, or your not in a top guild and you are speaking from what you've seen from Spriests pugging Naxx. All I can tell you is check the rosters.

    Again, as much as it pains me, GC actually said something coherent, if not unnecessary and obvious.

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    Re: And yet again GC shows knowledge!

    Quote Originally Posted by dddmaster
    ^

    if your guild doesnt bring you to raids cuz your dps sux you should consider learning how to play your class and do more dps?
    You see..
    my guild still bring me to the raids.

    Bring the player, not the class <-- You remember?!

    but that doesnt mean the class doesnt have issues!
    According to blizzard:

    Paladins : Lovedolls

    Priests : Swineflu

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