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  1. #41

    Re: Koralon Mentallity

    Quote Originally Posted by Daez
    I've yet to see a guild run VOA together unless the guild was trash and the only thing they could actually clear was VOA. So, people pug it all the time, so try not to bring your holier than thou attitude to the thread.
    ...

    wow, looks like you've brought enough of a holier-than-thou attitude to the thread already.

    Raiding guilds, whether very casual or hardcore, could make no more efficient use of their raiding time than clearing Koralon each week at this point. The diversity of a raid group generally guarantees that tier drops will be needed by someone in the group, and the fact that you're doing it as a guild means it will be one by someone who will benefit from it in your other raiding.

    Saving 45-75 emblems on a tier token turn-in by acquiring the item from vault seems like a pretty good incentive to run it to me, especially at this point when even if you've run every daily heroic and all available TOC raid content you could only have about 190 emblems of triumph. This is enough to buy 2-3 pieces of mid-level T9 (assuming you have the trophies), so Koralon could easily put you into your 4pc bonus.

    Go ahead and stick to your 'I'm too good to run vault' philosophy, and I'll keep farming it for upgrades each week so I can best deliver my contribution to my raid's progression.

    Lethal, Thunderhorn-US
    (US #1 2-night guild WoD)
    Tues/Thurs 7-11pm CT
    EN 7/7 Heroic

  2. #42

    Re: Koralon Mentallity

    VoA is Srz Business people. I HAVE to kill achie first so I can screw people that only need something from the other bosses when we wipe multiple times.

  3. #43

    Re: Koralon Mentallity

    Quote Originally Posted by Daez
    That is because German people are at heart socialist. Socialist is not a dirty word (unless you are speaking at a Repug convention). It means the people actually give a damn about each other more than they do themselves. That is a foreign concept here in the states for the vast majority of people.
    Oh please...

    don't you think German people don't leave the raid after one Koralon/Emalon wipe. I've seen it happen. Same with Toc pugs. People often do not put their needs behind others' in pick up groups.

    The problem with Archa -> Ema -> Kora is that you can't really see how competent the group is until you get to Emalon - at which point the ID is basically wasted if the dps/healers/tanks suck. I like that you are saved to the instance only if you can down the hardest boss. Granted that's not how progression should work, but I think given the current circumstances it is clever to start with Kora.

  4. #44

    Re: Koralon Mentallity

    Quote Originally Posted by Synite
    Oh please...

    don't you think German people don't leave the raid after one Koralon/Emalon wipe. I've seen it happen. Same with Toc pugs. People often do not put their needs behind others' in pick up groups.

    The problem with Archa -> Ema -> Kora is that you can't really see how competent the group is until you get to Emalon - at which point the ID is basically wasted if the dps/healers/tanks suck. I like that you are saved to the instance only if you can down the hardest boss. Granted that's not how progression should work, but I think given the current circumstances it is clever to start with Kora.
    Yeah... but on the other hand, that's how Ulduar works (lol, saved if the pug can do FL).

    A group downing FL might not be able to do Yogg (srsly)

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