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  1. #201

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sles&n=Darthxs
    note: weapon does have beskering enchant just haven't logged off.

  2. #202

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    I might be doing PvP right now, but what do you think of my Ret Pally?

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ras&n=Rorshack

    I use SoR a lot in pvp and on trash or on bosses where you cant get to 5 stacks long enough for it to be worth it to use seal of vengence.

  3. #203

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Rorshack
    I might be doing PvP right now, but what do you think of my Ret Pally?

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ras&n=Rorshack

    I use SoR a lot in pvp and on trash or on bosses where you cant get to 5 stacks long enough for it to be worth it to use seal of vengence.
    This thread never mentioned if it was for PvP and PVE so I am going to try and cover both sides to the best of my knowledge because I am more of a PVE'er.

    Well I really dont know what to tell you here because I dont PvP enough to tell you whether your Ret is good for the setup but to my knowledge I still think you need more hit even for PvP isnt it 5%?

    As for Ret for PVE you would be missing alot obviously because you only have 1.18% hit which your required to be hit capped at 260 = 8% or you could run with 7% and have a drainei in your group. Now I have noticed and done some testing of my own and you can actually get away with running 7% even without a draenei in your group. I dont miss very much and i sit at 248 and I usually am not put in a group with a draenei.

    As for expertise you have to get 15 more expertise to be capped.

    Crit I wouldnt worry about too much because your going to be lifted about 6% or so when in raid from buffs and depending on what classes you got in there with you.

    Also noticed why are you gemming accordingly to get every socket bonus? Only gem for what you need to get your Meta and pick the right certain pieces that have strength on it to gem correctly for and then other than that gem for strength.

    Also invest 25 Triumphs for the SoV libram.

    As for glyphs make your dual talent for a ret pve and a ret pvp because the way your glyphed is only gimping you.

    So sorry to be so harsh on you bud but this is for the better if you get the gear to correct everything.

    5/10

    Here is my armory.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Corpsegrinde

  4. #204

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Corpsegrinde
    This thread never mentioned if it was for PvP and PVE so I am going to try and cover both sides to the best of my knowledge because I am more of a PVE'er.

    Well I really dont know what to tell you here because I dont PvP enough to tell you whether your Ret is good for the setup but to my knowledge I still think you need more hit even for PvP isnt it 5%?

    As for Ret for PVE you would be missing alot obviously because you only have 1.18% hit which your required to be hit capped at 260 = 8% or you could run with 7% and have a drainei in your group. Now I have noticed and done some testing of my own and you can actually get away with running 7% even without a draenei in your group. I dont miss very much and i sit at 248 and I usually am not put in a group with a draenei.

    As for expertise you have to get 15 more expertise to be capped.

    Crit I wouldnt worry about too much because your going to be lifted about 6% or so when in raid from buffs and depending on what classes you got in there with you.

    Also noticed why are you gemming accordingly to get every socket bonus? Only gem for what you need to get your Meta and pick the right certain pieces that have strength on it to gem correctly for and then other than that gem for strength.

    Also invest 25 Triumphs for the SoV libram.

    As for glyphs make your dual talent for a ret pve and a ret pvp because the way your glyphed is only gimping you.

    So sorry to be so harsh on you bud but this is for the better if you get the gear to correct everything.

    5/10

    Here is my armory.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...n=Corpsegrinde
    9.5/10 blacksmithing would make it 10/10 for me


    mine http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sles&n=Darthxs

    note: i have beserking on my weapon already.

  5. #205

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by darthxs
    9.5/10 blacksmithing would make it 10/10 for me


    mine http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...sles&n=Darthxs

    note: i have beserking on my weapon already.
    6.5/10

    Theres a few poor choices on your part. Heres a fix list:

    - Change your metagem. Getting the +agi one will result in more dps, because it allows you to use just a Nightmare tear to fullfill meta requirements, instead of 2 blue gems which sucks.
    - Get +22 agi to cloak. It's better than +23 haste.
    - You are over the hit cap yet ypu still enchant icewalker on boots? Get +34 Attack Power on those. First choice would obviously to get some better boots (Crafted with runed orbs) instead of the pvp ones.
    - Sort your glyphs. You need consecration glyph instead of Exorcism, because with a 10s cooldown on it, it results in less GCD clashes which results in more GCDs used on other abilities which grants you more dps. Its also a great mana saver on top, which means you wont have to plea that often, which gives you even more free GCDs.

    Here's mine:
    http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...&n=Dejav%C3%BA

    (Missing a leg enchant, and gonna change back to 4piece T8.5 until they fixed 2pT9 bonus)

  6. #206

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    9.5/10

    Only thing i can see is the Mirror of Truth trinket but at a guess, judging by your other gear, your just unlucky . Everything's socketed/enchanted properly though so thumb's up.

    http://armory.wow-europe.com/charact...n+Ring&n=Aeral

    I have legplate's of the violet champion to replace my current one's with but trying to find some way to get a replacement 80 hit rating is hard . Also, the boot gem's are rare quality only because they are iLVL200. I made a rule that i would not put any epic gem's in anything that is under iLVL213.
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Earthen+Ring&n=Aeral

  7. #207

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Considering you've only run heroics, I like it loads.

    8/10. Get the leather boots from ToC (heroic) and you're good to go.

    and change trinkets.

    Seth got skipped so rate him!

    http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sh...nds&n=Salarcyn

  8. #208

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Nice overall...probably 8.5. Couple of things...get rid of the pyrite infuser (way over hit cap) and buy a Darkmoon Card: Greatness. Maybe get another trinket to replace the Loatheb's Shadow. Also, run H ToC to get the boots...big upgrade over current.

    Here's mine: http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=us.bloodhoof.bigchipper

    I'm two badges from getting Libram of Valiance, which will replace the Libram of Discord. I'm planning to swap the Glyph of Seal of Righteousness with Glyph of Seal of Vengeance then too. Also, I have Bladebreakers Gauntlets (226), but equipping them lowers my DPS over Zeleik's Gauntlets...I think it's an expertise thing that should get corrected with the SoV glyph.

  9. #209

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigchipper
    Nice overall...probably 8.5. Couple of things...get rid of the pyrite infuser (way over hit cap) and buy a Darkmoon Card: Greatness. Maybe get another trinket to replace the Loatheb's Shadow. Also, run H ToC to get the boots...big upgrade over current.

    Here's mine: http://www.wowhead.com/?profile=us.bloodhoof.bigchipper

    I'm two badges from getting Libram of Valiance, which will replace the Libram of Discord. I'm planning to swap the Glyph of Seal of Righteousness with Glyph of Seal of Vengeance then too. Also, I have Bladebreakers Gauntlets (226), but equipping them lowers my DPS over Zeleik's Gauntlets...I think it's an expertise thing that should get corrected with the SoV glyph.
    I saw what you farmed tharr (ToC).. I'd try cutting back on the haste for sure, 0,10% off the hit cap, you have 12 Expertise just like me! Needs to go up though. (Yes I am aware it's the same for me ) - Nice gem choices, nice trinkets. You should get some profs though (BS or JC)! Nice spec, too.
    7/10 I'd say

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...eptulon&n=Yasu

    Your worst, please. (Even though I've realised most flaws, like the 16 AP / 4 mp5 gem in the T7 shoulders, cba to replace it atm, its T7 LoLz!).. I just started raiding as Retri again. After picking up the T8.5 chest I was left with that much hit, it will become lower in due time.
    inb4 "<insert instance> was merely a setback!"

  10. #210

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    6.5/10
    As you said the 16 ap / 4 mp5 in shoulders is pretty lol :>. Also the libram but otherwise it looks pretty good. I wont judge you to hard since you just started raiding as ret.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...and&n=Kufelina

  11. #211

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Kufelina
    6.5/10
    As you said the 16 ap / 4 mp5 in shoulders is pretty lol :>. Also the libram but otherwise it looks pretty good. I wont judge you to hard since you just started raiding as ret.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...and&n=Kufelina
    I'm sorry, that was my bad. I actually have Libram of Valiance, only I got it yesterday, tanked a HC, swapped back to ret gear-set, and only today did I notice the libram. Hehe, I meant to make a note of it but it must have slipped my mind.

    By all means, judge me seriously. I like to know where I can improve! Anyway the reason I wont replace that shoulder gem is because my guild is doing TotC25 and Uld25, so I'll have a replacement item soon enough. Also, I am still able to do very competative DPS (ended about 5-6th in TotC25 yesterday), so there's no dire need to replace my gem either.

    -----


    To judge!

    Awesome gear, I can't see much wrong with it. I guess you personally prefer the 21CSR above 21 Agi, same goes for me. Hit capped for PvP, nice resilience and hp, obviously working your way to some Relentless gear looking at ratings, good pvp spec as I guess you use Seal of Righteousness..

    9.5/10, really.

    Re-rate me seriously, please ( no offense Kufelina ).

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...eptulon&n=Yasu
    (if armory didn't update yet, remember I actually use Libram of Valiance, not the block one :P )
    inb4 "<insert instance> was merely a setback!"

  12. #212

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    I think you should read up on your gemming / enchanting a little bit.
    You'll notice that gemming / enchanting for anything but isn't optimal.

    Since the latest patch using the +21 agi 3% crit dmg meta is better than
    +21 crit 3% crit dmg because of the 20 str gems. Use that meta, 1 nightmare
    tear for the meta requirement then gem everything else for 20 str. I would
    put the nightmare tear in your t9 gloves so you can get the 4 str socket
    bonus from those. You'll only lose 2 str on that item with the change and
    then get to use straight str gems everywhere else. Including changing the
    ap / mp5 gem in your shoulders (huh?). You'll gain 48 str just from putting
    epic gems and changing your gems around. Also, you're above hit cap, you
    can use the 32 ap enchant to boots instead of Icewalker.

    I'll modify this post when I'm not in my craptastic Holy gear.

    Glyphs and talents are pretty good.

    Overall I'd give you like a 6/10.

  13. #213

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Above didn't post Armory.

    Here's mine... not expecting a high score but it's what I've got. Still one of most consistently good DPS in my guild

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ng&n=Talynonyx
    Read the signature rules.

  14. #214

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by talynonyx
    Above didn't post Armory.

    Here's mine... not expecting a high score but it's what I've got. Still one of most consistently good DPS in my guild

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ng&n=Talynonyx
    looks good. i give 8.5/10 just because you need to bump up the crit percentage, and change the helmet blue gem to sovereign blue gem (str>ap)

    here is mine, PVP geared oriented wise
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...kama&n=Cluckie
    i'm just leveling polearm with marrowstrike, currently i use death's bite. I don't raid much and don't arena at all. I'm currently still working on the deadly gears, rings and edge of ruin from H-ToC.

  15. #215

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by epence
    looks good. i give 8.5/10 just because you need to bump up the crit percentage, and change the helmet blue gem to sovereign blue gem (str>ap)

    here is mine, PVP geared oriented wise
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...kama&n=Cluckie
    i'm just leveling polearm with marrowstrike, currently i use death's bite. I don't raid much and don't arena at all. I'm currently still working on the deadly gears, rings and edge of ruin from H-ToC.
    im not gonna rate it just tell you what i think is wrong.
    i dont like the way you have your gems. for me, i prefer using 1 meta, 1 +10 all stats gem(in legs for +6str), and everything else +20str.
    and ur spec is bad. dont use SoCommand, it is terrible right now. 7/13/51 is the good spec atm. also, i would pick up Glyph of Salvation. it can really help.

  16. #216

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    eh...it's ok. I don't have gears like you. I need resil and stam. Without stam gems, i probably wouldnt make it 22k health. On top of that, divine guardian helps absorbing damages, saves my ass sometimes. But I'm gonna take on your advice on salvation glyph.

    don't get me wrong, you have good set of pvp gears + weapon.

  17. #217

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    I rated someone up a few posts and did not provide an armory link until now.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...egwynn&n=Tanyn

    PS. I have the Libram of Valiance for boss fights. I just use the current one
    for trash when I have SoR as my seal.

  18. #218

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Tanyn
    I rated someone up a few posts and did not provide an armory link until now.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...egwynn&n=Tanyn

    PS. I have the Libram of Valiance for boss fights. I just use the current one
    for trash when I have SoR as my seal.
    I would say definitely get hit/exp capped(unless you're just wearing the wrong gear in the armory snapshot) . One thing I've been trying to do is get rid of expertise gear and replace is with more arp/crit/any other dps stat and just use SoV glyph to make up for the lost expertise. Otherwise, good everything else
    9/10

    Heres mine:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Flamecancer

  19. #219

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Tardkrunch
    I would say definitely get hit/exp capped(unless you're just wearing the wrong gear in the armory snapshot) . One thing I've been trying to do is get rid of expertise gear and replace is with more arp/crit/any other dps stat and just use SoV glyph to make up for the lost expertise. Otherwise, good everything else
    9/10

    Heres mine:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Flamecancer
    Would probably give you a 10/10, but you still are using non-epic gems, so may dock you to 9.5, but thats just me. Looks good otherwise, although I can see that a 1k+ dmg weapon still eludes you as well ;p.

    Anyways, heres mine: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ore&n=Thellais


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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Tardkrunch
    I would say definitely get hit/exp capped(unless you're just wearing the wrong gear in the armory snapshot) . One thing I've been trying to do is get rid of expertise gear and replace is with more arp/crit/any other dps stat and just use SoV glyph to make up for the lost expertise. Otherwise, good everything else
    9/10

    Heres mine:http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...&n=Flamecancer
    9.5/10

    Suggestions:

    ---->Replace your 16 STRs with 20s: I take it this is more of a financial issue than anything.
    ---->Replace Stromrune Edge whenever you can (Possible upgrade for yourself is the ToC 25 man Axe)
    ---->Drop Divine Intellect and Seal of Command for Guardian's Favor or Unyielding Faith (Assuming you do not spec into Divine Guardian still)- Otherwise spec for Divine Guardian.

    Otherwise pretty good.

    Mine: http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ammer&n=Ronark

    Self Assessment: 8/10

    ---->Replace 16 STRs with 20s.
    ---->Enchant Crusher on Gloves
    ---->Replace Meta gem with 21 Agi and apply a Nightmare Tear (Need to buy the JCTs for last one :P)
    ---->Replace Mirror of Truth
    ---->Gain a tad bit of Hit and at least 3 Expertise to become capped in both.

    Being EXTREMELY casual right now and only making 1-3 raids per month doesn't help my cause here XD

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