1. #2881

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Kisko
    Yes, full 25m buffs, Undead, SoV glyph, J-DS-CS-HOW-C-E priority.

    Looks like you used different settings for Rawr.
    Most likely the default settings - with the default rotation (HoW very high and DS very low priority) Exp is only slightly better (0.01 DPS per point) than Str and without buffs (imp Wf totem...) it's worse than Str.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo
    Most likely the default settings - with the default rotation (HoW very high and DS very low priority) Exp is only slightly better (0.01 DPS per point) than Str and without buffs (imp Wf totem...) it's worse than Str.
    nope every buff (str food, double haste pot trick) in except magic thingy, same rotation (except for concecration being infront of HoW)
    but i did do it on 60min and not 5min so it beat the rng out of equation

    might be the version too.. its older il update

    Edit: seem like there is a difference in number but still expertise come behind but with a 0.5 dps this time

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Here's my paladin, not really proud of my guild progress, but here's what I've decided for my gear depending on FAQs and Rawr:

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...eridon&cn=Gixx

  4. #2884

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Syrox
    Here's my paladin, not really proud of my guild progress, but here's what I've decided for my gear depending on FAQs and Rawr:

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...eridon&cn=Gixx
    gear is decent for your progression, shoulda gotten 4set T10 before buying the Libram tho.

    8/10

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  5. #2885

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Gillun
    gear is decent for your progression, shoulda gotten 4set T10 before buying the Libram tho.

    8/10

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...dgar&cn=Gillun <-- me
    Your missing a minor glyph.. i know they dont do much.. but should at least have them.

    Your also using exorsism glyph.. which I assume is because you haven't been able to replace your bloodbath belt.. But you def want to get a belt with no expirtise so you can get the exprtise glyph.

    Your gear is nice.. seem to have everything gemed and chanted correctly.

    Would be a 8.5/10 but going down to 8.1/10 for missing glyph.

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  7. #2887

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Pleski
    Gem Str&Stam in your belt+legs. The rest should just be pure strength gems.

    With that weapon just use double crit offset (neck&cloak)

    The spec and glyphs aren't that ideal. I would advise you to use Seal of Righteousness over Seal of Command (glyph) and then spec something between;
    5/11/55
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/talent-calc....31322133201301
    or

    7/12/52
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/talent-calc....31322133201331

    depending on your comp.

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  8. #2888

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Myysticc
    Everything looks good, cant see any major issues. 10/10

    BUT, if I were to be extremely picky: My rawr shows that you would gain 1 DPS by matching the socket bonus in Vengeful Noose by using a Inscribed ametrine. You would also gain ~7 more DPS switching the expertise gem for a pure STR one in your ring.

    Still 10/10, Im no RAWRexpert so the values may be wrong!

    Here is mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...Nether&cn=Aivy

    Any advice on what emblem item to purchase is appreciated. The trinket, libram and leather belt gives me pretty much the same dps increase according to RAWR.


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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Aivy
    Everything looks good, cant see any major issues. 10/10
    expertise gem in the ring

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    @ Aivy: Looks pretty good, only thing would be to find a replacement for those PvP bracers, but other than that, nothing looks glaringly wrong. (Sidenote: Kinda lol'd at the 7.99% hit)

    With regards to your next upgrade, I'd say to get Malevolent Girdle or something to allow you to take out those +hit gems. But that's just a personal opinion.

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  11. #2891

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Expertise is 4 to high with SoV glyph and hit is 1% to high. But Probably waiting for a drop as am I with my bracers. So I would give you a 6/10 but just because of the lower item level of your gear and said things above.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Tiny bit under Hit but then at the level of gear you have 8 hit isn't massive!

    Other than that I see nothing wrong. All looking sweet and what my Ret set should look like!

    Unfortunately I don't have the luxury of rolling on gear as Ret has become my offspec so be gentle on me

    (I tend to log out in Ret gear so ignore the stats on my sig piccy and just click it)

  13. #2893

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nienniora
    expertise gem in the ring
    Just wondering if you would care to elaborate on that. You didn't really explain anything, just made a point and left it there expecting the world to understand

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...st&cn=Myysticc

    Also! Does anyone know why my rawr is consistently showing Bryntroll HC to be at least a 30 dps upgrade over Bloodfall HC regardless of the changes I make to my gear (i.e. swapping leather pieces to plate and vice versa) while the EJ list for weapons places Bloodfall above Bryn. Just curious as to which weapon will actually net me more dps, I've a hunch that WFS HC just totally messes up the way I gear because of how much it deflates the value of crit to me, although I'm not too sure if this is the case, I'm just speculating.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Myysticc
    Just wondering if you would care to elaborate on that. You didn't really explain anything, just made a point and left it there expecting the world to understand

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...st&cn=Myysticc
    its a 0.5dps loss comapred to a 20str, read the page before

  15. #2895

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nienniora
    its a 0.5dps loss comapred to a 20str, read the page before
    So you're telling me that dropping my 20 expertise gem (which places me at 6.25% glyphed) will net me 0.5 more dps while having to drop my expertise substantially thus leaving a larger possibility of dodges which would just effectively harm my dps.

    Tbh using a 20 strength gem over a 20 expertise gem in my current set up just leaves RNG to decide what my dps will end up being.

  16. #2896

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Myysticc
    So you're telling me that dropping my 20 expertise gem (which places me at 6.25% glyphed) will net me 0.5 more dps while having to drop my expertise substantially thus leaving a larger possibility of dodges which would just effectively harm my dps.

    Tbh using a 20 strength gem over a 20 expertise gem in my current set up just leaves RNG to decide what my dps will end up being.
    Many top paladins are vastly under exp cap and in some cases under hit cap and are putting out amazing numbers. In fact, if I could get the drops I'd be dropping exp myself.
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  17. #2897

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by andy_mitchelluk
    Tiny bit under Hit but then at the level of gear you have 8 hit isn't massive!
    Draenei? I am actually over hit cap

  18. #2898

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    The last few posts were just discussions so there is no one to rate :P

    Anyway here's my armory:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...nedar&n=Hirako

    Also, I am probably second in line for heroic Bryntroll so should i bother with Shadow's Edge or just stick with what i have until i get Bryntroll?

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    WTB Gloves from fester & Tiny abom to drop

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...flight&n=awake

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Macki
    WTB Gloves from fester & Tiny abom to drop

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...flight&n=awake
    I was gonna say go for 10crit/10str in those yellow sockets, but at 45% crit unbuffed, dunno how close you are to the critcap.
    Maybe 10str/10haste after you get TAiJ?

    Here's mine, offspec:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...n&cn=Hatsuharu

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