1. #3061

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Suliso
    @ Typhron

    Glyphs are fine

    Change the 20 hit gem in your bracers for a 20 str gem and replace one of your 10str 10 haste gem with 10 str 10 hit.
    This will put you to 264 hit @ a bonus of 20 str and by just loosing 10 haste cuase the 10 hit u loose arent used anyway.

    I dont see the usefullness in Divine Purpose for PvE isn't Aura Mastery better??

    Rest seems fine i just find the 10 str 10 haste gemming odd but okay, if u like it. ^^

    Fix the Socket and the Aura mastery and i give you a 9/10.

    Edit: Got rated not long ago so just go on. ^^
    Edit: Edit: Typos -.-
    Didn't notice I would get critiqued. D:

    I'm expecting a Tiny Abom any day now (Through force of punching people through the internet), so regemming so often felt pretty meh as the DPS increases were gradual. But that's me actually being fail not having the money to min/max myself properly.

    Divine Purpose makes stuns in most boss fights (not Putricide) trivial for both me or the healer I put it on. Also leads to funny events where the boss' AoEs will miss me entirely. I was specced into Aura Mastery some time ago, but often went ignored or forgotten.

    I would think that haste would benefit more than crit would due to being at the crit soft cap for rets. And my high haste gives quite the benefits when you factor in the buffs from other haste effects (My glove Enchant, caster and/or physical DPS buffs both pushing me toward low weapon swing time or gcds, moar divine storm hurricane cowbell). I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong as hell, though.

    My current trinket ilvl 200 trinket? All I'll say on that is "Fuck Loot Council when the council doesn't know dps from their own assholes" concerning a previous guild.

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    edit: noticed i have a pvp trinket on. my other trinket is Herkuml War Token.
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  2. #3062

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalinth
    -1 for strength ring (should be agility)
    -0.5 for no tier 9 (2 piece is good)
    -1 for crit/stam gem (use a nightmare tear)
    -0.5 for no str/crit gems in yellow sockets
    Total: 7/10
    Drop your Battlemaster trinket for Greatness
    Get 4pc t9
    I haven't been human in a long time, but unless your guild doesn't recruit Draenei you don't need to gem for hit rating. Drop those gems for crit/str

    http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sh...is&cn=Deathnar

  3. #3063

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    @Dalinth 5(6)/10 coz a lot of twinks have better gear (maybe that is a twink from you, don't know)


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=Si%C3%A8ne


    Should get Shadowmourne between 17-23 June

    Bracers from Warship, Belt from Vali and Boots from Lady never drops :<
    also the Paladin Hero Tokens maybe drops 1 every 2-3 weeks so costs to much dkp imo
    Neck I already have the hero from Bloodqueen, but need the Bracers b4 I can wear it :-/
    than i'll change the Exp Glyph against the Exo back.

    The Herku trinket i'll also change for the Saurfang Hero one think so, but it's open imo
    better would be PDOK25 but we don't raid it anymore :-/

  4. #3064

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    @Dalinth 5(6)/10 coz a lot of twinks have better gear (maybe that is a twink from you, don't know)


    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=Si%C3%A8ne


    Should get Shadowmourne between 17-23 June

    Bracers from Warship, Belt from Vali and Boots from Lady never drops :<
    also the Paladin Hero Tokens maybe drops 1 every 2-3 weeks so costs to much dkp imo
    Neck I already have the hero from Bloodqueen, but need the Bracers b4 I can wear it :-/
    than i'll change the Exp Glyph against the Exo back.

    The Herku trinket i'll also change for the Saurfang Hero one think so, but it's open imo
    better would be PDOK25 but we don't raid it anymore :-/
    very nice equip there, but why would you get dbw heroic if you could use TAiaJ?

  5. #3065

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathnar
    Drop your Battlemaster trinket for Greatness
    Get 4pc t9
    I haven't been human in a long time, but unless your guild doesn't recruit Draenei you don't need to gem for hit rating. Drop those gems for crit/str

    http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sh...is&cn=Deathnar
    Only one thing 20 exp in Helm?
    Isn't a 20 Str Gem better?
    If I am worng correct me...

    Rest seems fine geming/Glyphs/Specc

    9.75/10 cause I don't know the thing about the expertise gem -.-
    Suliso-Ret/Prot Paladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emaias View Post
    Anyway Holy Paladin stat order as stated is Intellect > Spirit > Haste > Dodge > Strength > Resilence > Crit > AFK-Itis > Comcastic DC's > GM Disconnects during boss kills > Mastery.

  6. #3066

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Deathnar
    Drop your Battlemaster trinket for Greatness
    Get 4pc t9
    I haven't been human in a long time, but unless your guild doesn't recruit Draenei you don't need to gem for hit rating. Drop those gems for crit/str

    http://us.wowarmory.com/character-sh...is&cn=Deathnar
    Great Gear but a bit to "much" agi items ~ 45% crit unbufft is perfect, but its only my opinion

  7. #3067

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nighty
    very nice equip there, but why would you get dbw heroic if you could use TAiaJ?
    yeah sure, trinkets its open imo. sh*t that we arent raiding PDOK25 anymore :-/
    there's still some slots to upgrade and DBW Hero drops very often so it would be a "free" upgrade.
    imo it would be to much hit with TAiaJ. But already have the normal version of it.

    Peace out

  8. #3068

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    yeah sure, trinkets its open imo. sh*t that we arent raiding PDOK25 anymore :-/
    there's still some slots to upgrade and DBW Hero drops very often so it would be a "free" upgrade.
    imo it would be to much hit with TAiaJ. But already have the normal version of it.

    Peace out
    Even if you dont use the hit TAiaJ is a big upgrade over HWT!
    Suliso-Ret/Prot Paladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emaias View Post
    Anyway Holy Paladin stat order as stated is Intellect > Spirit > Haste > Dodge > Strength > Resilence > Crit > AFK-Itis > Comcastic DC's > GM Disconnects during boss kills > Mastery.

  9. #3069

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Suliso
    9.75/10 cause I don't know the thing about the expertise gem -.-
    While using that gem I'm still a bit under exp cap.

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    Great Gear but a bit to "much" agi items ~ 45% crit unbufft is perfect, but its only my opinion
    I go with what drops.. No luck on gloves in 23 weeks. I made a deal with most plate that they could take most of the plate first since we didn't have too many rogues (only 1 at the time) so the plate dps got plate, I went mostly BiS leather. I'm waiting for coldwraith links, gloves still

  10. #3070

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    yeah sure, trinkets its open imo. sh*t that we arent raiding PDOK25 anymore :-/
    there's still some slots to upgrade and DBW Hero drops very often so it would be a "free" upgrade.
    imo it would be to much hit with TAiaJ. But already have the normal version of it.

    Peace out
    you already have the ilvl 264 version of taiaj and you wear the war token because you would be over the it cap? thats damn stupid i only use half the hit on taiaj and its still 600 dps better then the war token

  11. #3071
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ed+Halls&cn=Hl like totally pro :P still building gear lolz

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Eärendil
    As for downtime on Valithria...you do not heal on Valithria. Ever. Ever. *Ever.* You don't have the mana, and god forbid a frostbolt goes through the melee's interrupts and starts draining your already rather small manapool... Again: if you need to heal as a retribution paladin on a boss fight with a 20% buff to your raid's healing - then your healers are doing something wrong. Terribly wrong.

    My point is: 12% more healing or 6% more mana (or whatever) isn't really worth speccing fully into, because it's not your job/role to do that. We simply both lack the cooldowns and the mana do do that effectively.
    You are failing. With the overabundance of downtime on Dreamwalker (even heroic mode), you could actually be doing something useful. I spam heals all the time on that fight because there isn't a damn thing to attack on my side. More often than not, I use my Avenging Wrath to boost heals because none of the mobs live long enough to fully benefit from the buff to DPS them. When Guardian Spirit is called out, I'll usually pop my wings and use LoH on Dreamwalker as well as spam FoLs. Fully raid buffed and spec'd into Healing Light, my FoLs crit for just shy of 10k. This certainly isn't game-changing but anything to make the fight shorter is a nice bonus.

    The point is, you aren't a rogue or a warrior. Use the abilities you have and don't be a tool about being spec'd for DPS. I toss out instant cast FoLs all the time (many of them on myself) because it benefits the entire group.

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  13. #3073

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ed+Halls&cn=Hl like totally pro :P still building gear lolz
    Uuuh, what can I say! Good luck leveling and gearing up and drop the Spirit rings? XD

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...rhood&n=Mikasa

    I have the STR ring 'cause I PvP 90% of the time :3

  14. #3074

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by CoreMikasa
    Uuuh, what can I say! Good luck leveling and gearing up and drop the Spirit rings? XD

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...rhood&n=Mikasa

    I have the STR ring 'cause I PvP 90% of the time :3
    change your meta to the 21 agi version and get rid of the stupid 10str/15stam gems. you have 3 and would only need 2 to activate the meta you have right now. only use a nightmare tear in a blue slot to activate the meta.

  15. #3075

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nighty
    you already have the ilvl 264 version of taiaj and you wear the war token because you would be over the it cap? thats damn stupid i only use half the hit on taiaj and its still 600 dps better then the war token
    you have 308 hit with taiaj, i have 299 without !
    with taiaj i would have 384 hit wtf ?

  16. #3076

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=B%C3%B8del

    could be that i logedout in pvp gear, postet some pages back had faction and serverchange since then ^^
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Eärendil

    The reason why:
    As a retribution paladin you do not have the mana to heal, hence your 3/3 Healing Light falls short
    2/2 Unyielding faith applies to fears cast by i.e Blood Queen Lana'thel and the dragons before Sindragosa, why UF is situational to say the least - it at least has some practice.

    If you as a ret paladin need to help out with healing, then I'm sorry to say but your healers are doing something terribly wrong and you either a) need to replace them or b) have a serious word with them. You neither have the cooldowns nor the mana to spam Holy Light (the only thing that'll even make a difference on a boss fight) and if you stop to heal - then you're not doing your job which is to DPS.
    Response:
    Quote Originally Posted by Badpaladin
    For what it's worth, Divine Intellect is a miniscule DPS increase due to the tiny increased spell crit.

    So in the context of maximum DPS, it's the best route. In terms of practicality, well, you're making a choice of meh utility and meh healing vs. meh dps.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ronark
    There are a lot of places where you can FoL:

    Marrowgar, when running around (since you're standing in Bro storm anyhow you'll probably have damage to heal).
    LDW, again if running around and you get hit by a Shadowbolt or something.
    Lootship, when standing around doing nothing while the adds spawn.
    Rotface, when running out of the esplostionator.
    Prof. Put, when (again) running around and taking damage.
    Prices, when you take damage while (again again) running around.
    BQL, during Air Phase.
    Dreamwalker, on, err, Dreamwalker (but usually yourself so the healers dont have to waste a cast time on you and can heal her instead)
    Sindragosa, when running from tombs during Air Phase (or to help keep yourself alive if you're like me and stay on the boss most of the time :P)
    Lich King, when running around and you had Infest just casted.

  18. #3078

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    you have 308 hit with taiaj, i have 299 without !
    with taiaj i would have 384 hit wtf ?
    exactly the hitrating i had as TAiaJ droped for me, but the hitrating is wayne because the proc is the thing you want from that trinket, so equip it and change other items with hit and until then you have 384 hit its no prob

  19. #3079

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Spamor
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=B%C3%B8del

    could be that i logedout in pvp gear, postet some pages back had faction and serverchange since then ^^
    Everything looks top notch (even though I'm quite sure the agility AV ring is better.) except your specc - I'd never go without good old Raidwalling Divine Sacrifice

    Here's the extremely hit overcapped Paladin of mine - http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...cn=Perkulatorn

  20. #3080

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Perkulatorn
    Here's the extremely hit overcapped Paladin of mine - http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...cn=Perkulatorn
    well i can't really find a problem tbh only thing i could even slightly possibly think of to say is on your lefplates would it make more sense to have the JC gem a 10 str and 10 crit gem and the nightmare tear instead of having it on your chest? for a possible +2 strength increase lol, but im not doing caculations of weather or not 10 crit is better than 8 strength hmmm
    but yeah im rambling

    here is mine and yes my spec is a little diffrent to most because im not the type of guy to sacrafice myself for a raid(call it selfish or somthing i don't care)
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ub&cn=Charliew

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