1. #3081
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by charliew
    here is mine and yes my spec is a little diffrent to most because im not the type of guy to sacrafice myself for a raid(call it selfish or somthing i don't care)
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...ub&cn=Charliew
    Er you haz deaths choice. Gief plox.
    Em Your ring is wrong me thinks for PvE anyway.(ashen band one)
    Your weapon is Lame but probs coz you aint had any luck :P and omg Go crazy on the 10str n 10 crit why dont you :S Pure str plzzz... And mabye I complain coz ur human :P
    Er My pve gear is lock away safely in the bank. so crit me on sumint else mabye also ^^

    heers mine: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...der&cn=Shagger
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    To add to the above poster...
    Nightmare Tear should be in your blue belt socket with your chest socketed purely for Str. Your legs should have pure Str gems as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Scotsman
    I'll decline from rating you because I don't do teh arenaz.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Prentice
    I'll decline from rating you because I don't do teh arenaz.
    i decline too since im running out of fire.. sorry too busy!

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    I won't pass up on free advice on how i can improve so.

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    Everthing is so much easier when you stop giving a shit

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchyli
    I won't pass up on free advice on how i can improve so.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ilas&cn=Zazara
    Alright, here we go, rate the ret paladin above you.

    Offer advice to the ret paladin that will help them and then supply your own armory so the next poster can do the same.
    You can criticize on gear, talent choices, gem choices , enchants, professions, etc.
    Don't be dumb and make sure your armory is logged in ur ret gear and spec. ;\
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    the rules are simple follow it

  6. #3086

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Well the previous poster is in pvp gear, i don't pvp so i said nothing as i have nothing to say.

    You can jump out of my throat now
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchyli
    I won't pass up on free advice on how i can improve so.

    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...ilas&cn=Zazara
    - Change the gem in your ashen ring to pure strength
    - Your spec is weird, I mean why Divinity? Take out the 4 points in it and the 2 points in Vindication and go for Aura Mastery (Ignore this if you are the one bringing the AP reduction debuff)
    - You are under the hitcap, you should probably change one of your str+crit gems to str+hit gem (I could be wrong here since the you are only 0.19 under the cap)

  8. #3088

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Previous in old school gear.

    Im only keeping Mark of Supremacy untill I get heroic claymore and hopefully deaths choice/ heroic Whispering Fanged Skull.
    Reason for not having the agi ashen verdict ring instead of might of blight is that this is actually my off specc.
    (And yes my neck is crap)

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...raveh%C3%A9art


  9. #3089

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Gear is starting to look good.

    Here's mine

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...enas&n=Ymeltje

  10. #3090

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    -1 Bad gemming in your chest: 3* Str here
    -1 Bad gemming in your belt : Same as chest 3* Str
    -1 Wrong repu ring : The agi one is better
    -1 Some 100ish hit over the cap: This can be solved bei either replacing that crappy chest or the crappy belt (the agi badges belt is far better than the plate one -.-)

    -1 Bad spec : Aura mastery is better than the regular Divine Sacrifice.

    5/10
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    Dk: Telare
    Warrior: Irlida

  11. #3091

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...e&cn=Solandius - Mine
    Gotta change my pants to the sanctified ones,working on it(mark in the backpack)
    Belt and Neck also is a must for upgrades.
    Wrong spec since i'm doing also pvp,so i'm respeccing all the time(PvE to PvP and otherwise)

    Edit: A question by the way,should i change my Ashen Verdict Str ring to the Agi one?

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Solandius
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...e&cn=Solandius - Mine
    Gotta change my pants to the sanctified ones,working on it(mark in the backpack)
    Belt and Neck also is a must for upgrades.
    Wrong spec since i'm doing also pvp,so i'm respeccing all the time(PvE to PvP and otherwise)

    Edit: A question by the way,should i change my Ashen Verdict Str ring to the Agi one?
    -1 Enchanting for hit but already over hit cap (Boots)
    -1 Gemming Yellow Sockets with +4 str bonus should be 10 str + 10 Crist
    -1 Cloak Enchant should be +23 Haste
    -0 Specc cause i think (hope) you are in PvP Specc -.-

    7/10

    To your question Agi Ring is better for PvE but for PvP the Str is better, depends on you ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emaias View Post
    Anyway Holy Paladin stat order as stated is Intellect > Spirit > Haste > Dodge > Strength > Resilence > Crit > AFK-Itis > Comcastic DC's > GM Disconnects during boss kills > Mastery.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo
    -1 Bad gemming in your chest: 3* Str here
    -1 Bad gemming in your belt : Same as chest 3* Str
    -1 Wrong repu ring : The agi one is better
    -1 Some 100ish hit over the cap: This can be solved bei either replacing that crappy chest or the crappy belt (the agi badges belt is far better than the plate one -.-)

    -1 Bad spec : Aura mastery is better than the regular Divine Sacrifice.

    5/10
    If youre starting critzising other ppl than do it right.

    Chest yes 3x str or Tear, 10str/10crit,20str ....
    Belt Tear + 2x str or 3x str. ( Yes the Agi Token Belt > Plate extremly for you with over hitcap)
    Yes other Ring ...
    Boots -> extrem fail ! 10str/10crit, 20 str ( Tear in a yellow slot ? woot ?)


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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Siène
    If youre starting critzising other ppl than do it right.

    Chest yes 3x str or Tear, 10str/10crit,20str ....
    Belt Tear + 2x str or 3x str. ( Yes the Agi Token Belt > Plate extremly for you with over hitcap)
    Yes other Ring ...
    Boots -> extrem fail ! 10str/10crit, 20 str ( Tear in a yellow slot ? woot ?)


    Peace
    Nillo was semi-correct and so are you. The chestpiece should be socketed for pure str. I have explained this many times before, but I'll do it again. When you have a RBY set of sockets in the chest, you are required to use 2 hybrid gems to make the 8 Str socket bonus. Effectively you are only getting 4 Str per hybrid gem. With the Nightmare Tear in the belt, the socket bonus gained is a full 6Str.

    PvE ret paladins should never EVER use Sovereign Dreadstones (10Str/15Stam). The pally in question has multiple of these gems.

    I agree that the NMT is wasted in the boots as you pointed out, but I initially made the same mistake Nillo made. There are a couple sets of plate DPS boots and I initially just assumed that this guy has the boots with the red/blue sockets. Shit happens.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Prentice
    I agree that the NMT is wasted in the boots as you pointed out, but I initially made the same mistake Nillo made. There are a couple sets of plate DPS boots and I initially just assumed that this guy has the boots with the red/blue sockets. Shit happens.
    Well I actually saw that one, but forgot to post it whily typing for the reason you posted: Some boots just have that blue slot and some don't :P
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  17. #3097

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You


    9,5/10 cause u are little over hit switching out the Ring of Rotting Sinew would fix this too perfectly 264 hit -.-
    Suliso-Ret/Prot Paladin
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    Quote Originally Posted by Emaias View Post
    Anyway Holy Paladin stat order as stated is Intellect > Spirit > Haste > Dodge > Strength > Resilence > Crit > AFK-Itis > Comcastic DC's > GM Disconnects during boss kills > Mastery.

  18. #3098

    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Suliso
    To your question Agi Ring is better for PvE but for PvP the Str is better, depends on you ^^
    Could i ask Why?
    You can call me an asshat but i don't get the point getting Agi over Str.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Solandius
    Could i ask Why?
    You can call me an asshat but i don't get the point getting Agi over Str.
    Aside from loading the two rings into Rawr an accepting the output, you can compare them side by side with stat weights.

    [Ashen Band of Endless Vengeance] vs [Ashen Band of Endless Might]

    By looking only at the differences (hit, crit and proc are identical) would look something like this...

    99 Strength vs 88 Agility + 135 Attack Power

    Now plug in the stat weights and you get...

    ( 99 x 204 ) vs ( 88 x 130 ) + ( 135 x 81 )
    20196 vs 22375

    The Agi ring edges out the Str ring by a fair amount because of the amount of crit that ret pallys gain from the Agi.

    The following stat weights were used for the calculations above.

    Hit rating 264 (30)
    Strength 204
    Exp rating 170 (0)
    Crit rating 134
    Haste 137
    Agility 130
    Armor Pen 99
    AP 81
    SP 26

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    shiny new ring


    prentice. i feel for you having to gem hit

    wtb polar bear bracers?

    Edit: To my disgrace, I realized today I'd been using only two JC gems for months


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