True that, true that. Good luck to ya. I had to wait for our other ret and a fury war to get them before I did, because they both had more dkp than me = /
Get those T10 leggs on you to sort out ur expertise anyway ^^ Even if you have to wear all 5 till you can afford the gauntlets it'd be worth it rather than the leggs of acension, saying this since atm you're prot on armory and dunno whether you're using the T10 :P
Not to budge in on your discussion. I haven't played ret since I leveled, which is almost 33 days of played time ago, and have been picking up a few pieces from OS rolls. Now I'm way over hit and everything, but I'm just wondering if I'm really just a few gear swaps away from some decent dps. Right now I peak at like 3150 dps at boss level dummy. Anyways, here's my stuff:
edit: if you have the cash, replace those green gems with epic gems. and when you have a +4 or higher STR bonus with a yellow socket, use an inscribed ametrine.
Last edited by nzall; 2010-08-22 at 07:12 PM.
Because of the high frequency of negativity and overall "my class/race/faction sucks" (both for IRL and ingame issues) across all boards, I have reverted to primarily lurking and only posting when I need help. I'm hoping this can be fixed, but if I don't do this, I will likely end up depressed and disgusted with humanity as a whole.
Edit: And if you can't refund the gloves, consider buying the T10 shoulders to bring ur hit down aswell.
also had about a 3 month break from wow and just got back and did a 10 icc run last night so would like an opinion
and yes I know I spelled vanguard wrong, but so did about 80 other people :P (had to change my name when I server xfered)
Replace your cheapo chest enchant with the real deal.
Move your points from worthless Divine Intellect into the other talents in that tier.
If you can, replace your cloak with the one from gunship or rot 25, and your gloves with those from fester 25.
Everything else looks fine.
Well, you know you're geared well, I imagine you're waiting on a new weapon and thus losing some of your expertise you're carrying, gemming yellow sockets for +4agi socket bonuses has shown to be a dps increase at later gear levels, but if you're like me you cant be bothered to waste a gem for ~2dps, I'll wait until 4.0 and just exchange my ring...
As for you comment on Divine Intellect, while you are entitled to your opinion, referring to a talent as worthless when it has practical application and is in fact a dps increase over non-dps talents only implies that you didn't know it has a dps value. The talent gives a nearly negligible amount of mana ~250, int gives a very minor amount of spell crit, and a greater sized mana pool increases mana regen of Divine Plea and replenishment. While this seems very lackluster for 5 talent points, it is of some use, more so than either of the other 2 talents from a pure dps stand point.
As for my gear I'm still juggling my hit and exp caps, I would kill to pick up the belt off of Valithria, but no luck yet. My choices at belt are basically excessive hit or excessive expertise, so i swapped a glyph and threw my old ToGC belt back on until I can get a pure dps belt like Coldwraith Links.
I also have the luxery of raiding with a moonkin with nearly 100% attendance, allowing me to drop swift retribution for a little extra raid utility elsewhere.
Yes, but you aren't a rogue, you're a hybrid.more so than either of the other 2 talents from a pure dps stand point.
Theoretically, talents like Pursuit of Justice and Unyielding Faith will have more DPS than the Actual DPS given by Divine Intellect.
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+12% healing is a better place to spend talent points than more % intellect. Maybe your guild allows you to mindlessly DPS and not worry about doing anything else and that's fine lots of rets are just brought for DPS. As a hybrid that's brought not only for competitive damage but my cooldowns and hybrid abilities, I use instant FoLs if it means life or death to another raid member at the cost of my personal DPS. If you save a raid mate that's doing 12k dps by losing 50 of your own isn't that better than ignoring them? And if you play that way, wouldn't 12% more healing be attractive to you?
In before 'lol ur healurz are shit'. My instant FoLs helped me get Argent Defender yesterday.
While your experience is moving, and I'm sure they are indeed a great group of people, but the fact of the matter is that 50 FoL over the course of a 12/12 HM clear even if they were ALL crits of 10k which is completely unreasonable, thats 60000 healing that talent provided alone, adding in a tick or two of Sheath of Light before a real healer tops off your presumably would be dead ally. This is assuming you even used all 50 of them on bosses, or that you used them on allies, since its not uncommon for rets to heal valithria during downtime. Or that not a single point of healing was overheal, which is highly unlikely unless your healers have poor reflexes, which in a 12/12 HM clear I highly doubt. So, assuming all these incredible factors is true, over the course of 12 bosses, only 2 of which are even a remote concern for healers, you give us a number of 50 with out explaining number of attempts, wasted heals or when you even used them and even then you come up with a negligible amount of healing that may even have just caused your presumably good healers to just overheal afterward. The act of healing at all is what saves your allies, not the extra 600 healing your shitty FoL gives.
This is true, its about boss on target time. But, my exact point is that there is 1 encounter in all of ICC or RS that has a fear mechanic and I'm going to trinket it, in 25s i trinket the 1st and bubble the 2nd making the talent have exactly 0 dps value, not theoretical dps, actual dps. Even if I had Unyielding Faith she fears you right before flying out of melee range, so god forbid you have to sit through the entire fear, you aren't even capable of meleeing her anymore.
The only thing 5/5 DI gives is 24 Intellect in a raid setting, or 360 mana and 0.14% Spell crit. In any situation, 12% extra healing from HL and namely FoL is MUCH more beneficial- Moreso when used to save yourself or someone else.
If the link below takes you to the screen intended, you can see that I cast Flash of Light 86 times which yielded over 676k healing while contributing another 267k healing via the Sheath of Light HoT. 100% of that healing was effective. Unfortunately, this attempt was a wipe because the holy pally lost his stack. It is not uncommon for me to cast FoL 40-50 times in a single Dreamwalker kill.
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Its a good thing that Kayla is providing the haste buff for your raid though. Your 8 boss deaths to her 1 would have been a pretty significant DPS/Healing loss for your whole raid. Perhaps if your FoL's healed for more.....