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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronark
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    For your PvP spec, EfaE is useless- You'd be better off with Vindication instead.
    I mainly got that eye over vind for 3v3 due the retarded amount of spell cleaves on my BG.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirako

    Mine:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...nedar&n=Hirako

    I know I am under the hitcap as i just replaced Citadel Enforcer's Claymore. Also any advice on how to re-cap it? should i gem for it or replace DMC:G with a placeholder trinket until TAiJ drops because i am getting it once it drops?

    From what i see your only 9 hit rating under the cap, so replacing one of your 10str-10crit with 10str-10hit would be a good option.

    You also need to get hold of some more expertise gear as your 10 under cap with the glyph

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    My friend's Ret Paladin:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...as&cn=Fedriana

    Can be in Holy Gear sometimes -.- ;D
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by FishesAndMurlocs
    My friend's Ret Paladin:
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...as&cn=Fedriana

    Can be in Holy Gear sometimes -.- ;D
    Does not need Divinity. Could put those po...Yeah, I don't know either. Placeholder points are placeholder. :v

    Quote Originally Posted by Hirako
    This thread is for Ret... And how did i get skipped AGAIN?! -_-
    'cause your gear, spec, and everything else seems rather good.
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    @ Typhron

    Glyphs are fine

    Change the 20 hit gem in your bracers for a 20 str gem and replace one of your 10str 10 haste gem with 10 str 10 hit.
    This will put you to 264 hit @ a bonus of 20 str and by just loosing 10 haste cuase the 10 hit u loose arent used anyway.

    I dont see the usefullness in Divine Purpose for PvE isn't Aura Mastery better??

    Rest seems fine i just find the 10 str 10 haste gemming odd but okay, if u like it. ^^

    Fix the Socket and the Aura mastery and i give you a 9/10.

    Edit: Got rated not long ago so just go on. ^^
    Edit: Edit: Typos -.-

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Ok, I got rated some couple of weeks ago, and I've been trying to gear/gem in the direction I was given.

    Could I have a go at it again?
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/ - Lýkke

    Thanks!

    Edit: I'm aware that I've ignored some yellow +4 str sockets. I guess I'm too cheap to throw the cardinal rubys away. Going for +6 socket bonuses tough.

    Edit2: Apperantly, I forgot to change spec before I logged last night, I'll be back when it's fixed. ^^

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    @ Lykke

    Try to get 4pt10 asap, I know Emblems are not coming out of your ass just put it on your "To Do List".
    Your Helm and your Chest are just not that good -.-
    You can even switch them out one by one cause u are not using 2pt9 bonus

    Also sometimes u gem yellow sockets for str bonus sometimes not
    Yellow socket providing a 4str+ Bonus should be gemmed by 10 str +10 crit or 10 str +10 hit if u can use the hit

    I also so see Divine Purpose and I dont understand the usefullness for PvE -.-


    after switching Chest you also managed to lower hit a little

    rest seems fine

    -1 Over hit
    -1 No 2p10+2pt9
    -0 Bad cloak is bad.
    -0,5 gemming
    7,5/10


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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Pretty nice gear, you just need to take the 4 pieces bonus. Its too good to skip it.

    The spec is a little weird but its ok i guess.

    Now me: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...&cn=Steldemian

    I am a little bit unlucky with the hc ICC 25 drops but eventually they will drop

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    @ Steldemian

    Switch Plate belt for http://www.wowhead.com/item=50995 or http://www.wowhead.com/item=50067

    And your gloves for http://www.wowhead.com/item=50037 or the Heroic version of those (if they drop I just read that you are unlucky)

    Then you are just a little bit under hit cap (248) wich u can fix with gems/Enchants

    -1 for being over Hit

    so 9/10 from me

    Ps: sorry for posting so much but I am bored as hell -.-

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Hi there,

    I've been around for a while playing Ret paladin and I think that I am doing most things the right way but it's always good to let my fellow paladins take a look at it. So I would like to hear what you think of my char.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...lade&cn=Phyrus


    P.s I know I'm under-hit capped, do compensate this with hit food and a goat (Dranei ) in the raid.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Phyrus
    Hi there,

    I've been around for a while playing Ret paladin and I think that I am doing most things the right way but it's always good to let my fellow paladins take a look at it. So I would like to hear what you think of my char.

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...lade&cn=Phyrus


    P.s I know I'm under-hit capped, do compensate this with hit food and a goat (Dranei ) in the raid.
    0/10
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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Phyrus

    1) I know I'm under-hit capped, do compensate this with hit food and a goat (Dranei ) in the raid.
    2) http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...lade&cn=Phyrus

    1) Using hit food instead of Str food is a dps loss, when you can get it by gemming (usually at the cost of crit) or enchanting (less AP loss, than the food) instead.

    2) Now....
    -2 : Move points out of Divinity and get Aura Mastery + Seal of Command.
    -1 : Use Glyph of Seal of Vengeance instead of Exorcism as long as you need at least 2 Expertise (you need 3)
    -1 : Str Cloak, because Exp/Arp is just horrible you're better of taking the Agi one instead or just about any other cloak.
    -1 : There are plenty +4 (cloak + ring) and even a +6 yellow slot (gloves) you have skippped this is a dps loss: if you place 2*10Hit/10Str in them you'll get Hit capped with a Draenei only (no more useless hit food !_!) and the 3rd one should be a 10Crit/10Str instead of pure Str.
    -1 : Expertise on bracers is bad get AP instead and use glyph of Seal of Vengeance -.-
    => 4/10

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    You might want to read the FAQ first, because you've got so much wrong:

    Spec is bad:
    -2 No Pursuit of Justice
    -1 Divinity is pointless use your leftover points to get Aura Mastery instead
    -1 Get Glyph of Consecration instead of Exorcism

    Gemming is bad:
    -1 We don't use Str/Stam gems ever.
    -1 You need a Nightmare's tear (either in the BLUE slot of your weapon or your belt )
    -1 You need to replace your meta gem with the Agility/crit dmg one, because it only needs 1 blue gem instead of 2.
    -2 worst of all you've placed your blue gems in slots, that are either not even blue (gloves) or don't give you the respective bonus (chest)
    -2 10crit/10 str should be in any yellow +4 Str or higher slot (=bracers, cloak, gloves, boots, 2nd ring)
    -1 Icewalker although you're already over the hitcap => 32 AP on boots instead.

    => -2/10

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo
    You might want to read the FAQ first, because you've got so much wrong:

    Spec is bad:
    -2 No Pursuit of Justice
    -1 Divinity is pointless use your leftover points to get Aura Mastery instead
    -1 Get Glyph of Consecration instead of Exorcism

    Gemming is bad:
    -1 We don't use Str/Stam gems ever.
    -1 You need a Nightmare's tear (either in the BLUE slot of your weapon or your belt )
    -1 You need to replace your meta gem with the Agility/crit dmg one, because it only needs 1 blue gem instead of 2.
    -2 worst of all you've placed your blue gems in slots, that are either not even blue (gloves) or don't give you the respective bonus (chest)
    -2 10crit/10 str should be in any yellow +4 Str or higher slot (=bracers, cloak, gloves, boots, 2nd ring)
    -1 Icewalker although you're already over the hitcap => 32 AP on boots instead.

    => -2/10
    You were WAY too nice. I wouldn't have been able to contain myself when rating this one.

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Prentice
    You were WAY too nice. I wouldn't have been able to contain myself when rating this one.
    I decided -2 was already too much, that's when I reduced the points of some mistakes

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    hey rate if u can

    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...r&cn=Darllasus

    btw i know i shouldnt have got the libram before my 4 set

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mahi
    Chest: 8 stats --> 10 stats
    Gloves: Nightmare Tear --> strength/crit
    Boots: Icewalker --> 32 AP, blue socket --> Nightmare Tear

    Drop that expertise trinket ASAP and replace Glyph of Exorcism with Glyph of Seal of Vengeance once you do. And you need some non-pvp bracers

    Specwise, I would like to suggest Healing Light > Divine Intellect, but I don't want to start a flamewar so let's just say it's personal choice
    ok thanks
    also my guild is only doing ICC 10 on normal atm, so would bracers from there be an upgrade from pvp ones?

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    ;D thanks for your help, much appriciated

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    Re: Rate The Ret Paladin Above You

    Quote Originally Posted by Nillo
    [size=6pt]1) Using hit food instead of Str food is a dps loss, when you can get it by gemming (usually at the cost of crit) or enchanting (less AP loss, than the food) instead.

    2) Now....
    -2 : Move points out of Divinity and get Aura Mastery + Seal of Command.
    -1 : Use Glyph of Seal of Vengeance instead of Exorcism as long as you need at least 2 Expertise (you need 3)
    -1 : Str Cloak, because Exp/Arp is just horrible you're better of taking the Agi one instead or just about any other cloak.
    -1 : There are plenty +4 (cloak + ring) and even a +6 yellow slot (gloves) you have skippped this is a dps loss: if you place 2*10Hit/10Str in them you'll get Hit capped with a Draenei only (no more useless hit food !_!) and the 3rd one should be a 10Crit/10Str instead of pure Str.
    -1 : Expertise on bracers is bad get AP instead and use glyph of Seal of Vengeance -.-
    => 4/10
    [size=8pt]Thanks allot for your help and tips, much appreciated.

    Changed almost everything you told me I did wrong except the gem in my back. Since the back is not optimal for a paladin I will try to replace it as fast as I can.

    My question; what cloak would you take instead of this one?
    With raiding 10/12 ICC10, 6/15 ICC25 normal

    (http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...lade&cn=Phyrus)

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