Thread: Patch 3.2 PTR Build 10433

I like how when they first nerfed BM from 3.0. they also nerfed the damage of SS by 10% as part of the nerf... cause the one button macro of godliness was too much. But IF this change is right, BM not only gets that 10% to SS back, but they also get 10% more to other things as well.


Things that make you go hmm.

Originally Posted by Malfuron

It's NOT a god-damn nerf, read the talent properly before you start commenting. You gain 10% damage at ALL times when specced into this talent, and when you use Bestial Wrath, you gain an ADDITIONAL 10%

And once the actual talent is linked, perhaps you'll have a point, but the linked version is the live version.

Until we have exact wording, I'm not buying into shit.

Originally Posted by Charo

So... you want Omen of Clarity from a set bonus, no thanks, 2% is what druids got for their 2pc8, live with it. >>

Didn't know about that, but it must be something seriously wrong with the setbonus since 99% of all Rogues keep their 4-set bonus from t8 since it weights out the stat increase from ilvl 232 and 245 of what I've read around Rogue forums and such.

226 -> 232 should be nothing more than pure upgrade, correct me if I'm wrong? (set wise, not widewise with stats)

Originally Posted by qae

Frost tanks get a nice threat boost with Tot including RS.. and really UA was not that good to begin with..

Not to nit pick, but you mean frost DW tanks get a nice boost, and I'm not sure how many people have come accustomed to DW tanking. Its definitely doable now, especially with a lot of bosses getting that parry gib thing turned off, but I'm not sure if its that extremely popular yet.

Originally Posted by Rilgon

And once the actual talent is linked, perhaps you'll have a point, but the linked version is the live version.

Until we have exact wording, I'm not buying into shit.

Check the PTR talent calculators from the front page.

"Increases all damage you deal by 10% and while your pet is under the effects of Bestial Wrath, you also go into a rage causing 10% additional damage and reducing mana costs of all spells by 20% for 10 sec. While enraged, you do not feel pity or remorse or fear and you cannot be stopped unless killed."

Originally Posted by Vashdakari

I like how when they first nerfed BM from 3.0. they also nerfed the damage of SS by 10% as part of the nerf... cause the one button macro of godliness was too much. But IF this change is right, BM not only gets that 10% to SS back, but they also get 10% more to other things as well.


Things that make you go hmm.

At the time, BM was doing ungodly damage. Now, its dragging in damage. Its not that they did to much damage back then its just that they did more damage than everything else. Everything else has pretty much been buffed (including MM and Surv), so now bringing them back to where they were doesn't make them look as overpowered.

Originally Posted by Deathgasm

Didn't know about that, but it must be something seriously wrong with the setbonus since 99% of all Rogues keep their 4-set bonus from t8 since it weights out the stat increase from ilvl 232 and 245 of what I've read around Rogue forums and such.

Careful what you wish for. Most likely Blizzard will fix this in their usual way. Incoming nerf to T8 4 piece bonus. Fixed!

Nice to see they're doing something about Hunter dps. Though I don't think a permanent +10% buff to BM will close the gap between it and MM. It'll help, yes, but I certainly doubt it'll pull ahead. Which is a good thing, in a way, I guess.

Originally Posted by justinh

Quick on the bm nerf yet prot holy paladins still reign supreme gg blizz you know all about balancing the game

Welcome to "Initial patch 3.2.2 build notes". Jeez, Gotta love people who completely ignore changes THAT HAVE BEEN IN SINCE THE FIRST BUILD.

Wow haha, talking about trashing DK tanking, lmao its almost useless now, yet they have buffed shield block so much, that classes with shield can solo tank heroics, Blizzard dont do drugs :

Originally Posted by StitchMonkey

It will not be enough until BM's have a shot at being somewhat respected. . . .

I want to feel like I have a chance in heck of being able to pug. But alas my confidence is depressingly low right now in that aspect. :-(

yeah I can imagine how it feels ;D

You : Hunter up
RL : Surv or mark?
You : BM
RL : Ok but what's you PVE spec?
You : erm.. BM
RL : lolz
You : ..
RL : sorry raid members tell me we got enough hunters already.
You : ...
You : /logout

Originally Posted by RMJ

Wow haha, talking about trashing DK tanking, lmao its almost useless now, yet they have buffed shield block so much, that classes with shield can solo tank heroics, Blizzard dont do drugs :

How do you see that its useless? All the abilities are going back to 1 minute timers (down from 2 minutes). Sure, they are getting balanced a little. Here is the little problem with shield block tanking. SHIELD BLOCK DOES NOTHING TO PREVENT MAGICAL DAMAGE! Seeing the vast majority of bosses in Uld and TOC have a crap load of magical damage you want a tank that can take that damage. That normally leaves you with two options. You can either go druid (because they still have the highest possible health pool even after the paladin buffs and still have the second highest damage reduction) or DKS that now have the second highest hit point pool and the highest possible reduction (which actually gets buffed due to changes to frost presence and being able to chain cool downs).

Originally Posted by qae

yeah I can imagine how it feels ;D

You : Hunter up
RL : Surv or mark?
You : BM
RL : Ok but what's you PVE spec?
You : erm.. BM
RL : lolz
You : ..
RL : sorry raid members tell me we got enough hunters already.
You : ...
You : /logout

While this is funny, the biggest reason people hate pet classes is umm the pet. BM chooses to forgo personal dps to add pet dps. Of course they are going to be hated. The only reason they weren't hated in TBC and early wrath is because they did insanely more dps than the other specs. Until that happens again people will still want MM or Surv simply because they don't like watching someones dps drop by 1000 or more every time their pet dies, and we all know pets LOVE dieing.

Um ok, guess i have an extra glyph slot on my elemental shaman now >.> Really unexpected change

I don't know if I should be happy or sad about the battleground queue change.