Mind Sear is so OP!

[Nezoia]

.... oh wait!



The only spell who actually ever would put us on top of the meters, now proving how bad shadowpriests scale with the game.

Why did they introduce Faction Change? I want a *Class Change* feature.

[Spurlij]

I would love a class change right about now.

[Vaxall]

Spreading DP whould be nice aoe again... (dk spread)

[Rewiag]

oh ye, another "wanna be so clever" states that Mind shear is so crap by looking on one freakin recount shot (not even the breakdown window...). man, get a fking clue.

[Juicebox]

In all fairness, that priest could have been on orb duty.
Other than that, I agree that Mind Sear scales terrible for us.

[Nezoia]

oh ye, another "wanna be so clever" states that Mind shear is so crap by looking on one freakin recount shot (not even the breakdown window...). man, get a fking clue.

Here's the hint:

That's from Anub'arak. The reason the rogues are so high dps, is due to Fan of Knives. The dps is high in general due to AoE, and thus the priest dps is higher than 5500 due to Mind Sear. This is something most people familiar with the fight know by now.

And it very much proves how lackluster our dps are compared to the other classes. The Retribution paladin who does JoL (compareable to VE), and Replenishment, are doing 2100 more dps than our class are.

And I trust the priest in this screenshot is *very* good at his/her job.

In all fairness, that priest could have been on orb duty.
Other than that, I agree that Mind Sear scales terrible for us.

Yeah, but... it don't really seem like it, does it? The other kills provided similar numbers, priests in the bottom, even with Mind Sera.

Mind Sear have previously been the a reason to bring priests to a raid. What's the point now? We do remarkable less dps, than all other classes, on every single type of fight, and don't bring any unique buffs.

[fabian]

Only problem is that the recount he gave was that of Paragon's Tribute to Mad Skill 25 man kill. Watching the movie I saw the boss being moved away from the adds a couple times(even one time where the spriest was still channeling the spell on the boss). The results are skewed because of that.

I'd like to see more from Anub'arak to make sure that even though his AoE was messed up, it wouldn't have mattered.

[Ninjadave131]

Damn, look at all the hunters up in that shiznit.

[Nezoia]

Only problem is that the recount he gave was that of Paragon's Tribute to Mad Skill 25 man kill. Watching the movie I saw the boss being moved away from the adds a couple times(even one time where the spriest was still channeling the spell). The results are skewed because of that.

Doesn't make the spell better though. Rogue, Mage, Paladin AoE etc. follows fine.

It's not meant as a absolute number, but as a mere illustration of things are going in the wrong direction for our class, and the road to hell is going down *fast*.

Imagine if we receive no upscale of our abilities when Icecrown hits... our dps will be a aeons from the other classes.

[Snes]

Cause trash dps is hugely important right?

[Spurlij]

Cause trash dps is hugely important right?

Not trash.

[fabian]

Cause trash dps is hugely important right?

'Cause you only AoE on trash, right? Go watch the video on the front page then come back.

[Direshadow]

If you are in a regular guild that progresses though content steadily, and values competence over idiocy...

You're fine.

This isn't the BC era any more. DPS doesn't matter as much as it once did.


We're getting buffed a bit next patch anyways.

[Juicebox]

Mind Sear never was good...
What used to make us top AoE damage fights where DKs spreading our Devouring Plagues.

They know our dps isn't on par with others at the moment, I expect to see more shadow changes for 3.2.2
The small buffs to spirit wont do much, it can't be all they had in mind :P

[kardra]

well after the 30% fok nerf you will probably be above the rogues in AoE based encounters once again..

[Direshadow]

the strength of Mind Sear isn't in it's raw damage, it's more in the fact that it's an AOE that follows a mob around.

In some situations, this can be annoying, like when the mob you're Mind Searing moves away from the group.

In other situations, it can be a fairly useful talent. Freya, comes to mind. When everyone is trying to focus an area to aoe the flowers, and hope that they're lucky, all Shadow Priests need to do is focus one flower, and then wherever that flower goes, it's hurting the rest.

It's also great in BGs to break up cluster-humps.

[Exera]

oh ye, another "wanna be so clever" states that Mind shear is so crap by looking on one freakin recount shot (not even the breakdown window...). man, get a fking clue.

It's a well known fact that spriests scale the worst of all classes in the entire game, spriests start out really good, they did that in TNC as well, and then when gear kept getting better they fall behind, by a lot.

So maybe you should get a fucking clue eyh?

[Rewiag]

Here's the hint:

That's from Anub'arak. The reason the rogues are so high dps, is due to Fan of Knives. The dps is high in general due to AoE, and thus the priest dps is higher than 5500 due to Mind Sear. This is something most people familiar with the fight know by now.

And it very much proves how lackluster our dps are compared to the other classes. The Retribution paladin who does JoL (compareable to VE), and Replenishment, are doing 2100 more dps than our class are.

And I trust the priest in this screenshot is *very* good at his/her job.
Yeah, but... it don't really seem like it, does it? The other kills provided similar numbers, priests in the bottom, even with Mind Sera.

Mind Sear have previously been the a reason to bring priests to a raid. What's the point now? We do remarkable less dps, than all other classes, on every single type of fight, and don't bring any unique buffs.

the thing i wanted to say is that looking on a simple recount shot does not mean a shit. first off, rogues and dks are high cos they can aoe AND do fair single target dps. so are warriors and ret pallys. the reason none hunters / priests are on top is that they CANT do both in the same time. but this does not mean that MS is so crap, only its not usefull on this fight. who knows if the priest were even mind searing (full fight)? guess others did the aoe duty and he was just dpsing the boss.

and you rly cant make such a statement on one picture (like the tards whom didnt even know how the fight is and said "lul rogues are so OP, look at their 11k dps omfg"). maybe if it were wws or wol or something like that, but not recount.

[Nezoia]

Cause trash dps is hugely important right?

Crusaders Coliseum got trash now?!?

[fabian]

twho knows if the priest were even mind searing (full fight)? guess others did the aoe duty and he was just dpsing the boss.

well you can, its on the front page