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  1. #21
    Stood in the Fire Spaceshuttle's Avatar
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    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Queltharas
    47 Exp. @ Parium, n1 ^^
    eh?

  2. #22

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bron
    PALADIN FORUMS
    Don't paladins get more stam/health from talents than warriors?

  3. #23

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob
    Don't paladins get more stam/health from talents than warriors?
    prehaps, and they also get cheat death, lay on hands and better aoe tps
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  4. #24

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by kingmob
    Don't paladins get more stam/health from talents than warriors?
    The ranged weapon slot is a huge buff to overall HP, which is generally the reason cited for warriors having such a large health level above Paladins. We get I believe 2% more health from talents more than warriors, but that is also based off of your current stamina, i.e. if we had even a 2nd or 3rd BiS ranged weapon option that extra 2% may close the gap of a warrior with BiS ranged weapon.

  5. #25

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    no paladin, but nearly http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...27jin&n=Toogle

    (not my char)

  6. #26

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    I've always felt that healer mana pools should be equivalent to their tank's health pools (clearly with less regen than there is now). It would make for some fun in guild competition. At almost 32k unbuffed mana, I have more mana than most PUG tanks have health, but am still a far cry from a well geared raid tank.
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  7. #27

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mraksup
    no paladin, but nearly http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...27jin&n=Toogle

    (not my char)
    Weird...

  8. #28

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mraksup
    no paladin, but nearly http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...27jin&n=Toogle

    (not my char)

    just terrible


    a shame to all hunters

  9. #29

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    40039 unbuffed, and still the Monarch Crab, and the Black Heart from Trial...
    I´m not the main tank, he´s a warrior better geared than me

  10. #30
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    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Hmm, Unless yall have a BV level, Hit or Avoidance level below mine then some of yall have to have a few pieces of 258 gear. (1660, 5.6%, 56.5% respectively)

    Unfortunately the dps in my guild doesn't know how to not die during phase 2 of Northern Beasts.

    or avoid icehowel its borderline bullshit after 3 weeks.

  11. #31

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by irongar
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...zrigos&n=Ethum

    44k - guildleader from 'the best' guild from my server (mazrigos) he's pretty imba
    22 hit rating? ???

  12. #32

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    yes,tons of them.
    no,you're not special...
    yes,that's pretty good
    I'm hoping to cap 40k anytime soon if ToTC will drop my new stuff
    and I was like,arthas...if you don't stop killing ppl I'll kick you in da nouts

  13. #33

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid_Beaver
    The ranged weapon slot is a huge buff to overall HP, which is generally the reason cited for warriors having such a large health level above Paladins. We get I believe 2% more health from talents more than warriors, but that is also based off of your current stamina, i.e. if we had even a 2nd or 3rd BiS ranged weapon option that extra 2% may close the gap of a warrior with BiS ranged weapon.
    Paladin:

    Sacred Duty 2/2
    Increases your total Stamina by 8%, reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield and Divine Protection spels by 60 sec.

    Combat Expertise 3/3
    Increase your expertise by 6, total Stamina and chance to critically hit by 6%.


    Warrior:

    Vitality 3/3
    Increases your total Strength and Stamina by 6% and your Expertise by 6.
    "If you talk to God, you’re religious. If God talks to you, you’re psychotic”.

  14. #34

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    If you dont count bear form as beeing buffed im close to 47k

  15. #35

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Composure
    22 hit rating? ???
    He doesn't really need a lot of hit rating with that amount of expertise. Still, it must be painful to do bosses with taunt rotations with a tank that has 22 hit.

  16. #36

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by irongar
    http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...zrigos&n=Ethum

    44k - guildleader from 'the best' guild from my server (mazrigos) he's pretty imba
    his mitigation, avoidance, block, expertise and hit rating all suck, hes all stam and nothing else....weak imho

  17. #37

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    I got 45k HP in my stam gear(druid) :
    * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * * * * * * ** * * * * * * * * ** * ** I have no idea what this means, but it sounds about right^^

  18. #38

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julaes
    Paladin:

    Sacred Duty 2/2
    Increases your total Stamina by 8%, reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield and Divine Protection spels by 60 sec.

    Combat Expertise 3/3
    Increase your expertise by 6, total Stamina and chance to critically hit by 6%.


    Warrior:

    Vitality 3/3
    Increases your total Strength and Stamina by 6% and your Expertise by 6.
    L2base stamina
    IM TEH RET! er... teh holy... or it was teh prot?!
    This bro told a cool story on 2009-12-03 and proudly took part in the banfest.

  19. #39

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aquilesmagno
    L2base stamina
    Maybe you should have read the quote he answered to...

    ps. 40k is not that much !_!
    Armories:
    Pally: Chiaki
    Dk: Telare
    Warrior: Irlida

  20. #40

    Re: Anyone break 40k unbuffed yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by Julaes
    Paladin:

    Sacred Duty 2/2
    Increases your total Stamina by 8%, reduces the cooldown of your Divine Shield and Divine Protection spels by 60 sec.

    Combat Expertise 3/3
    Increase your expertise by 6, total Stamina and chance to critically hit by 6%.


    Warrior:

    Vitality 3/3
    Increases your total Strength and Stamina by 6% and your Expertise by 6.
    Paladins scale better, those are % modifiers. Warrior, thou, have overall more base health and some gear advantages, e.g. the ranged weapon.

    Usually unbuffed you'll find a warrior having more health than a paladin. And raidbuffed they'll end up equal most of times. That's the reason behind all the answers

    Ontopic: I'm at 40076 health unbuffed atm (paladin, that is). Not fully stamina gemmed either. It doesn't take ilvl258 stuff, merely a combo of 245 items from 25men and 245 items from heroic 10, which happen to have extra gem slots.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wramphist
    his mitigation, avoidance, block, expertise and hit rating all suck, hes all stam and nothing else....weak imho
    Excuse me? He's at almost 60% avoidance (yes, avoidance, I'm not counting block) unbuffed with over 40 expertise.
    Quote Originally Posted by Qieth
    I don't do math, blind assumptions work so much better for me.

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