Vindiction

[Lunamarie]

Does any one knows if 3.2 Vindication can be apply on Raid boss or no?

[Munk]

Magic 8 ball says: Yes

[zcks]

Yes it can be applied on every type of mob now & it does reduce boss damage decently, Would be even nicer if they would let it reduce spell power slightly as well so it would be worth getting for pvp but blizz has never been known for giving us what we actually need instead of something "shiney" to try and distract us from our problems.

[Ronark]

Yes it can be applied on every type of mob now & it does reduce boss damage decently, Would be even nicer if they would let it reduce spell power slightly as well so it would be worth getting for pvp but blizz has never been known for giving us what we actually need instead of something "shiney" to try and distract us from our problems.

Because we have ALWAYS had problems with Melee and Vindication fixed that, amirite?

[zcks]

Because we have ALWAYS had problems with Melee and Vindication fixed that, amirite?

No but before they changed it it was at least somewhat useful against healers & casters because it reduced stamina & intellect. (blizz even admitted at high lvl arena brackets it dident make much of a difference but at low lvl ones it did)

It would be nice if they would just add some form of spell power reducing effect onto it, maybe 15-20%. technically that's not an MS & it can be dispelled so what would the problem be.

[Ronark]

No but before they changed it it was at least somewhat useful against healers & casters because it reduced stamina & intellect. (blizz even admitted at high lvl arena brackets it dident make much of a difference but at low lvl ones it did)

It would be nice if they would just add some form of spell power reducing effect onto it, maybe 15-20%. technically that's not an MS & it can be dispelled so what would the problem be.

I'll give it to you since sarcasm is hard to detect on the inter-webs. Point being, we never had problems with Melee and always had problems with casters. So what does Blizzard do with Vindication? They work it so we are even stronger vs. Melee and weaker against casters.

[Snorri]

hmm perhaps I should respec my retri spec then and pick up vindication

[Todyn]

hmm perhaps I should respec my retri spec then and pick up vindication

I would say depends on your raid comp before picking up Vindication.

Personally, i spec into it because we run: Dk/War/Druid as our Tanks, and we also usually have 2 fury warriors who can do the shouts, so I specced into Vindication.

[Snorri]

We are having trouble with Gormok on heroic 25 man crusader. He hits the tank very hard. We have one warrior who usually does commanding shout and the other can do battle shot. The warlocks does DPS curses. I believe my vindication would help to reduce the damage the tanks receive.

[arel00]

We are having trouble with Gormok on heroic 25 man crusader. He hits the tank very hard. We have one warrior who usually does commanding shout and the other can do battle shot. The warlocks does DPS curses. I believe my vindication would help to reduce the damage the tanks receive.

If noone else is doing it, know that -540AP means roughly 15% less damage for a raid boss. So yes, TONS of reduction.

[gobtol]

We are having trouble with Gormok on heroic 25 man crusader. He hits the tank very hard. We have one warrior who usually does commanding shout and the other can do battle shot. The warlocks does DPS curses. I believe my vindication would help to reduce the damage the tanks receive.

You realize that the warriors can do buffing shouts and Demoralizing Shout together, right?

[dadou131988]

What a lame talent...
It used to be great for PvP, now it sucks on all aspects...

I feel we're getting a watered down version of all the warrior tools
Except MS of course...

[Saladur]

What a lame talent...
It used to be great for PvP, now it sucks on all aspects...

I feel we're getting a watered down version of all the warrior tools
Except MS of course...

i dont see your point?... the whole idea is that we dont need a warrior to babysit us...

in my 10man hardmode gruop we often dont bring a single warrior.. so this is so dam good futher more this is ALWAYS up...

its simply one of the best talents as a prot paladin when its come to reduse dmg taken.