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  1. #821
    to VoltusV

    You're doing pretty much everything right in terms of rotation and dot uptimes. Two things to note to improve your deeps:

    1. Keep Imp. SF up more. I know atra is movement intensive and it's especially hard during airphase w/o a soul shard, but save a soul shard and keep this buff closer to 80% than 60%.

    2. If you're not on gongs, then shadowflame. You'll see a notable dps increase if you cast this on cooldown, taking priority over chaos bolt. Atra has a huge hitbox, btw, so you should be able to get her with it almost at caster range.

    Fel flame less and incinerate more if you can, but yeah, it's atra so what can you do. I couldn't see if you had food / flask on wowlogs, but those would help if you didn't.

    In all, with your gear, things look good though.

  2. #822
    Quote Originally Posted by bannehallow View Post
    -at Chimareon ur ok, nice uptimes nice output dmg
    -at atramedes u have uptimes 70% immolate-corruption and 64% at BoD.thats extremely low on fight that ur immolate can be 100% on air phase use felflame spam refresh corruption & BoD and conflg on every CD
    -at Counsil u have 60-68 uptime at ur dots (work on this)

    if u are this one battle.net/wow/en/character/llane/gnomydegnome/
    first of all go farm the rep for Ramkhen boots
    second go farm rep for the shoulders enchant
    ur gloves and ur back are Healer items replace them asap (spirit = bad)
    u have reforge so much Mastery and still ur mastery is more than ur haste percentage and almost like ur crit rating i dont like ur gear choises
    mastery should be the last on prios when choosing gear

    ur Haste rating = 1429 imo goal for 1993 one more tick at corruption
    and keep in mind to get Hit rating gear ur 15% atm

    and as Jesusmode where is ur haste buff? no totemic wrath? and who u DI?
    Didn't notice that we were missing totem of air. Since we have 2 shammies, I automatically assumed one was putting it down. I'll bring it up tonight during raid. We have arcane brilliance which should make totemic wrath redundant.

    DI'ing Roselai the fire mage.

    ---------- Post added 2011-02-24 at 04:04 PM ----------

    Just wanted to thank you guys for all your help. Seems my biggest problem was that I didn't have my rotation down right. Made a spreadsheet that let me realize that I was letting immolate, corruption and SF fall off way too much because I was refreshing them with too little time left on the buff/debuff.

    You guys pointed out some awesome stuff, especially the missing wrath of air totem. In addition, I do have to change out of the spirit gear, but beggars can't be choosers and even after raiding for months, for some reason, I seem to be having the worst luck on drops.

    This is from last night. Hopefully you guys see a difference. Some fights I lost control of the rotation since its new and not build into my muscle memory yet.

    worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-jewxpvzj7gdx6qk7/?s=6648&e=6895
    Last edited by Badahs; 2011-02-24 at 07:27 PM.

  3. #823
    i check only ur Counsil fight the others have some RNG included
    i have to say GOOD JOB! u manage to have 20% more uptime on ur dots
    well played.

    About the Gear
    its not about raiding or win the roles
    u can get Epic imba items via Rep Gloves from Vashj'ir (earthen ring) and Boots (uldum Ramkahen)
    for ur back i sugest u to get the one with VP since the Raid choises are too low or go with one of The HC and am sure that there is a 349Back with rep but i cant rember maybe is Earthen ring go check.
    Have fun

  4. #824
    Hi Everyone, i feel like I should be pulling higher DPS, but im not.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...dpsfail/simple

    Here is my world of logs for a bothttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/n...i1/details/30/

    and another http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7...4lc/details/8/

    Im basically stuck doing about 15-16k dps, sometimes 18 but I feel like I should be doing much more with my gear.

    My destro hits okay numbers but my affliction really sucks.

  5. #825
    dpsfail,

    It seems you could improve your gemming a bit.
    Not probably going to have a huge impact but every little bit counts!

    There is a better metagem, Burning Shadowspirit Diamond, which gives 54 intellect instead of 54 critical strike rating.
    The prismatic socket in your belt would be better utilized by having a pure intellect gem in it, but seeing as you are exactly 20 hit rating short of the hit cap of 17%, maybe that would be a good idea.

  6. #826
    Quote Originally Posted by dpsfail View Post
    Hi Everyone, i feel like I should be pulling higher DPS, but im not.

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...dpsfail/simple

    Here is my world of logs for a bothttp://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/n...i1/details/30/

    and another http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/7...4lc/details/8/

    Im basically stuck doing about 15-16k dps, sometimes 18 but I feel like I should be doing much more with my gear.

    My destro hits okay numbers but my affliction really sucks.
    Sorry to break it to you but your destro DoT uptime sucks too man.

    On Halfus fight 72% uptime on immolate and 68% on corruption. Plus 54% on ISF buff. Those are pretty low numbers.

    I am an average lock myself but check my Halfus numbers on this: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/o...?s=1559&e=1830

    (I'm Syd btw)

    Almost 90% uptime on both DoTs and around 78% on ISF. It's not great but it's acceptable and really gives a huge DPS boost.

    The comment above about gems is mostly correct. Just don't gem a hybrid gem on your extra belt socket. Int is above Hit. Try to reach hitcap by sacrificing some crit or mastery. That said, the gem changes won't change much unless you focus more on the fights and work on your uptimes. Try a different addon or something.

  7. #827
    Hey everyone

    Got some decent gear and I think enchants/gems/reforge is correct minus the maelstrom enchants. My DPS is pretty good I'm thinking but I'm curious if there's any way I can improve. In my opinion, I've got my rotation down pretty well (except for shadowflame which I'll be using more often). An example of a Patchwerk type fight for Argaloth (I'm Odyferous):

    worldoflogs.com/reports/xc4r9t38as65jcq4/sum/damageDone

    And tons of running around (Omnatron): worldoflogs.com/reports/xc4r9t38as65jcq4/sum/damageDone/?s=7308&e=7642

    My profile is here: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/odyferous/simple <-- just got T11 robes today so haven't run anything with them yet.

    The thing that gets me is that our afflic lock is almost always at the top of meters. Granted, he's got better gear but from my understanding, destro should do better. Yeah...I'm jealous :P

    Thanks for any help!

  8. #828
    Hey from a quick look, the only flaw on that fight was ur corruption having 81% uptime which is quite low seeing as that fight only has 3 moving moments in which you can refresh corruption as it's an instant cast. So a number 90%+ would have been expected. Any chance you're refreshing your DoTs when they have already fallen off? Because in cataclysm mechanics the best time to refresh them is when the last tick is about to occur (between 2s-0.1s left on the DoT).

  9. #829
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    Thats my armory and thats a recount of 25m BH. I was doing a trial run and with another guild and pulled ~15.5k dps they said this was low considering your gear and whatnot. So i was wondering is it a me problem, or a you expect to much problem? The fight I pulled 15.5k ish on was Twilight Ascendant Council. I had havoc on the other boss i was not attacking at the time, but with heave movment in phase 2 was when my dps started to drop. It settled at the end around 15.5k Help tips gear critism would be very welcomed.

  10. #830
    us.battle.net/wow/en/character/stormreaver/eid%C3%BCs/simple

    worldoflogs.com/reports/cq4pd8ui1chki1qg/sum/damageDone/?s=8582&e=8941

    Looking for some advice on things I could improve on for H Halfus (don't really care about other fights in this wol, since I kind of just half ass normals at this point =P).

    Initially, I think I could improve on my haunt uptime, corruption I didn't really worry about during whelps so that seems fine.

    When we released the whelps I spammed SoC on Halfus in hopes of the 300% damage buff, does this have any effect?

    I messed up a little bit, but holding off my second Demonsoul Succy, if that had been hit on cd, then I probably could have popped out a felhunter and hit it near the end.

    I also did not use my infernal when the whelps were released, i used it when halfus was alone(tooootally forgot).

    These are somethings I noticed personally but would love the opinion of other great warlocks in our community, so that I could achieve max dps. Thanks in advance for any help.

  11. #831
    Ok...long time reader, pretty much first time poster. I have been working diligently at improving my play on my warlock since cata came out, and have made some progress, but for the most part the progress is slow. I have only been playing a warlock for about 6 months, so perhaps I simply need more time/muscle memory/etc to master it...but I can't understand why I can't break 90% class efficieny on a simply fight like Algaloth.

    I guess I don't really expect to rank every time out, as there are locks a plenty out there who outgear me (our guild is only just starting to work on heoric modes).

    Here is my armory *us.battle.net/wow/en/character/draka/greekomikron/simple

    And here is a BH10 pug parse from earlier today *ww.worldoflogs.com/reports/31y56rdx50di8iy9/sum/damageDone/?enc=bosses&boss=47120

    My uptimes seem decent, and the run kill shot felt pretty clean (other than missing my pre-pot, and missing BL with my Infernal). It's too bad we had a healer fail on the 2nd attempt, as that one was much cleaner for me.

    Not properly flasked (wrath flask), missing perhaps one or two raid buffs, and had to DI a fire mage...but I still expect to be putting up 20k on this fight based on my simcraft.

    Can you guys spot anything I should be working on?

    Apprecaite the help.

    -G-

    Edit: It won't let me post links...so I removed a portion...hopefully you can decipher = )

  12. #832

    Low dps in 10man

    I switched to destro about 2 weeks ago so our 10man would have replenishment but I'm currently doing around 16.1-16.8k dps on heroic Chimaeron by then end of our wipes (between 9% and 100k health). SimCraft has me above 22k dps for similar buffs/time. Raid makeup is usually 2-3 pally healers (occasionally a resto shaman), MM hunter, Ass rogue, Prot warrior and pally, dps dk tanking, and the last dps spot is random (ele sham, feral, etc).

    Armory: *us.battle.net/wow/en/character/blackrock/sainty/advanced

    I don't have WoLogs for the last week's attempts, but below are two of our early attempts. I've become more used to destro since then but in these, as with most others I check, I'm using incinerate much less often than most other locks.

    *ww.worldoflogs.com/reports/qqy0gdub31v9uunw/sum/damageDone/?s=4337&e=4745
    *ww.worldoflogs.com/reports/qqy0gdub31v9uunw/sum/damageDone/?s=6015&e=6432

    I'd appreciate any advice as far as things I need to fix/improve on.

  13. #833
    Quote Originally Posted by spaztom View Post
    Hey everyone

    Got some decent gear and I think enchants/gems/reforge is correct minus the maelstrom enchants. My DPS is pretty good I'm thinking but I'm curious if there's any way I can improve. In my opinion, I've got my rotation down pretty well (except for shadowflame which I'll be using more often). An example of a Patchwerk type fight for Argaloth (I'm Odyferous):

    worldoflogs.com/reports/xc4r9t38as65jcq4/sum/damageDone

    And tons of running around (Omnatron): worldoflogs.com/reports/xc4r9t38as65jcq4/sum/damageDone/?s=7308&e=7642

    My profile is here: us.battle.net/wow/en/character/area-52/odyferous/simple <-- just got T11 robes today so haven't run anything with them yet.

    The thing that gets me is that our afflic lock is almost always at the top of meters. Granted, he's got better gear but from my understanding, destro should do better. Yeah...I'm jealous :P

    Thanks for any help!
    1 question, are you trying to match every socket? on your boots and belt you are matching the socket for 10 hit rating, which isn't really worth it....in general hit/haste/crit/mastery need a socket bonus of 30 to be worth the loss of 20 int.

    also, destro is better by less than 2%...BiS 359 affliction is about 600 dps lower than destro....that's basically nothing. If the other lock has better gear, that could easily be why he beats you.

    Affliction is also better than destro if there are two bosses, as affliction keeping all dots up on two bosses>destro keeping dots up + BoH, and has better aoe if he is using soulburn:soc

  14. #834
    Character link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%AEas/advanced
    World of Logs link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/4202/

    I've not got any gear since March 11 so constructive criticism of any logs after that date is welcome . I know that I need to work on my ISF and Demon Soul uptime but any other suggestions for where to improve, or where I'm going wrong, would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks in advance.

    Edit: Our raid setup generally doesn't have: Bloodlust/Heroism/TimeWarp, 3% damage buff (or paladin keeps needing to go from Ret to Prot), or 10% Spellpower buff, but I'm sure I should be doing a lot more dps.
    Last edited by TobiasX; 2011-03-17 at 09:03 AM.

  15. #835
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    Character Link: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../nitroz/simple Capped Mining/Alchemy. Average DPS 15-18k single target.

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  16. #836
    Quote Originally Posted by Joben View Post
    Character Link: somewarrioramidoingitrite Capped Mining/Alchemy. Average DPS 15-18k single target.

    WHAT CAN I DO?!
    Ask in warrior forum?

  17. #837
    my dps seems to be very low and i don't know why us.battle.net/wow/en/character/shadowmoon/steak/simple

    worldoflogs.com/reports/vch7m7jkmtiju7pf/analyze/dd/source/?s=2942&e=3358

    it seems like the other affic locks in my guild always bet me on everyfight and i don't get it Destruction is better then affic

    What am i doing wrong?Is it that im not getting off more caste then the other locks or what?Or it is my gear?

  18. #838
    Quote Originally Posted by Steakandeggs View Post
    my dps seems to be very low and i don't know why us.battle.net/wow/en/character/shadowmoon/steak/simple

    worldoflogs.com/reports/vch7m7jkmtiju7pf/analyze/dd/source/?s=2942&e=3358

    it seems like the other affic locks in my guild always bet me on everyfight and i don't get it Destruction is better then affic

    What am i doing wrong?Is it that im not getting off more caste then the other locks or what?Or it is my gear?
    k....you only need 17% hit (1743 hit rating I believe), atm you have 17.46% (1789 rating)...that's 46 hit rating that is completely useless...you have a bunch of pieces that you have reforged to have 50 hit on them, take away the 50 hit....being 4 hit rating under the cap is fine, it means you'll miss like every 1/10000 spells.

    your spec and glyphs are fine

    your rotation is lacking a few things

    1) I don't see shadowflame anywhere in any of the logs you linked, why? Shadowflame should be above chaos bolt in your priority list (as long as you can stand close to the boss....which you should be able to in all of the fights you linked). Play around with shadowflame on some test dummies, it has a much longer range than the animation would lead you to believe.

    2) Antram and ascendant council have lots of movement, yet I don't see any fel flame. While yeah, the spell kinda sucks....it's better than running around not casting anything....it should be the lowest priority spell you have while moving (unless you are using it to keep immolate up, in which case it is much higher...this may be why you had low uptimes on immolate for some fights), anyway, I find it hard to believe that you were refreshing dots, insta-casting soul fires, conflaging, for every gcd you had while moving. Also, if possible while moving you should be casting shadowflame if you are running somewhere near the boss.

    3) Your uptimes on immolate/bane/corruption are not consistent...on the ascendant council, you have dot uptimes in the 50%s, and on cho'gall you were in the mid 80s...You should shoot for 90+% or so on all three dots, 80s isn't bad...but 50% is very low.

    4) Improved soul fire is a buff you should have almost at all times...you had 50% uptime, you should cast soul fire before AoEing as well, as it'll boost your RoF damage as well. ISF is harder to keep up than the dots, due to movement...but you should think about where you are going to have to move before the fight starts...i.e. you have a plan ahead of time, so for fights like antram think of where you want to move during next discs, or during next air phase, etc and instead of standing 20 yards away from there in the begining, see if you can stand 15 yards, or 10 yards...the less movement you have, the better your dps.

    5) where is bane of havoc? i don't see it on any encounter....ascendant council, throw it on the one you aren't dpsing, and for cho'gall, I believe it's a dps boost to put it on cho'gall before aoeing, and then put doom back on when you switch back to him.

    6) ok....looking at your dot uptimes, and your spell damage, i'm going to make an assumption. I could be wrong, but my assumption does explain everything I see. I am assuming that while you are moving, you are not casting anything. This explains lack of fel flame, and it explains low dot uptimes in fights that have alot of movement. While moving, you should be casting something...your priority list does change while moving....it's basically fel flame if immolate is about to expire, corruption, bane, insta SF if needed and available, conflag, shadowflame if close to boss, and fel flame filler. Practice your moving priority list just like you practice your stationary priority list...maybe even more, as when you are moving, you are generally paying more attention to your surroundings and less to your dot-timers.

    Ok....also, you seem to have a bit of a misunderstanding about destro vs. affliction. On a straight tank and spank with zero adds, and no aoe, destro beats affliction by about 600 dps in BiS....yes, 600 whole dps...

    Affliction aoe>destro aoe....so I think affliction is better theoretically on cho'gall than destro...
    affliction multidoting>destro multidoting...Same for ascendant council...
    Affliction actually has a noticeable execution mechanic, where as destro really doesn't. So for captain planet, or cho'gal p2, Affliction is going to be doing significantly more dps than destro during those phases (yes, it evens out, destro does much more dps from 100%-25%, then affliction does a whole hell of a lot more dps from 25% to 0%, leaving destro slightly ahead over all)

    affliction played by an excellent player> destro played by a decent player
    affliction with like 2 ilvl higher gear> destro

    the specs potential dps isn't that different, they both have strengths and weaknesses...but for the most part, your skill, not your spec, is determining your dps.

  19. #839
    while overall im pretty happy with my dps in the last month or so i seem to be 1-2k under other locks in my guild
    hopefully this log will do
    worldoflogs.com/reports/258bm6v9qtim0bto/
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    eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/alakir/soultouch/simple
    Last edited by roy23; 2011-03-24 at 07:02 AM.

  20. #840
    Character link: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%AEas/advanced
    World of Logs link: http://www.worldoflogs.com/guilds/4202/
    No new gear since March 11th so any logs on or after that would be the most useful to critique. I know my ISF and Demon Soul uptime is something I need to work on but anything else I can do to improve my performance is welcome. I'm honestly not sure what I'm doing wrong in most of these fights for my damage to be so low.

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