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  1. #1001
    Sup, recently I have noticed that I suck. For my gear I believe that I should be pushing much more than I currently am (about 20k).

    I've read every guide about 15 times and still nothing changes. It seems to me like I'm doing everything right but I have to be missing something!
    I roll demo and aff depending on the fight. The only thing I'll change is my trink (moonwell for demo Heart for aff).

    Armory Link~~~~ us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malfurion/Cheesylock/simple
    WOL links
    ME ~~~~ worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-9uj8fnv2d3re2zpm/details/3/

    RAID ~~~worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-9uj8fnv2d3re2zpm/sum/damageDone/

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheesy View Post
    Sup, recently I have noticed that I suck. For my gear I believe that I should be pushing much more than I currently am (about 20k).

    I've read every guide about 15 times and still nothing changes. It seems to me like I'm doing everything right but I have to be missing something!
    I roll demo and aff depending on the fight. The only thing I'll change is my trink (moonwell for demo Heart for aff).

    Armory Link~~~~ us.battle.net/wow/en/character/malfurion/Cheesylock/simple
    WOL links
    ME ~~~~ worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-9uj8fnv2d3re2zpm/details/3/

    RAID ~~~worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-9uj8fnv2d3re2zpm/sum/damageDone/

    Thanks in advance!
    Try to get one mainspecc for both, or 2 gearsets. You lack reforges, its overall quite oké itemized, but then still for demo you lack mastery and for affli you'd have too much of it. (e.g. trinkets) If you're demo on, lets say 2 fights, you might consider just to reforge shit to haste and hit; shouldn't differ too much in that case.

    Also, don't forget your chest enchant.

    Then WoL. I took Shannox as an example as it is the most straight forward out of those four. First of all, your uptime on dots should be nearly 100%, considering you should dot up all 3 dogs. But that might change on the tactic you use, which I doubt is else then ours (nukedoglol, nukebosslol). Haunt has an uptime of avg. 70%. This either means you dont keep it on CD, or you fuck things up a lot. Make a focus targets, say Rageface. Dot up everything (starting with Rageface and haunt), everytime shadowbolt proccs / haunt is off cd / you have everything dotted => put stuff on rageface. Your SE cannot fall off the dog. Also, when Rageface dies, try to put haunt on the boss and dump your sb proccs on riplimb, allowing you to stack SE on 2 targets, which is rather nice.

    GL!





    Quote Originally Posted by Junblat View Post
    Greeting fellow warlocks, i am in need of some assistance please.

    Am mainly an Aff lock, pulling 22-23k dps with my spec, but on the Ragnoros fight (10man) i go demo, problem is, am struggling with my dps, i start at 20, but when phase 2 hits i drop below 17, so i was wondering is it me, my rotation, my spec, or thats what happens in that fight.

    start with SB,coe, pop demonsoul moonwell and demon form, immo hoG, corr BoD, am using the felhunter at p1 and p3, but on p2 i use fel guard to help on adds and aoe. use second demonform on first wave adds (not the hammer adds, sorry for got the names), and after smash i pop trinket demon form.

    Armory (sicne am mainly aff my gear isnt the opti for demo, most my gear is reforged) http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...naire/advanced

    and some pic from recount ( didnt get to p3 tonight so data is incomplete i guess)
    http://imageshack.us/f/546/wowscrnshot081011003647.jpg/
    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images...011003651.jpg/

    sorry for typing alot, and thank in advance for your help.
    First of all, having rather low dps on ragnaros as demo is quite usual, atleast when I look to our warlocks (myself and another, switch). Point is to know when to pop demo and to know when to save it, resulting into a DPS loss due to transition phases.

    Either way, without all too much logs (recount.. ) we can't really help you. Try to get a WoL link, heck even record one yourself next time you're there. Only thing I can see is Shadowflame used thrice. Find yourself a spot at the edge of his hitbox (it's about on the spot where you died), and you can have both shadowflame + immolation hitting the boss, without getting that annoying interrupting thingy.

    Further more, reforge your ring(Signet of the 5th Circle): Haste > Hit. Weapon Crit>Mastery, Offhand Haste>Mastery, and so on.

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    thank you for taking time and replying.

    i will do my best to get WOL, and i will stand closer to Rag to start SF, and get on that reforging tips u gave me.

    thanks again

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    muchos gracias

  5. #1005
    Guys, I'd love some help if anyone would check my dps. Running simulations in SimCraft I got a 30400 dps but in a fight like Baleroc Heroic that I should do almost that damage I did only 27600. Can anyone check my log and point something I am doing wrong?

    Link of the Log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=13781&e=14147

    Link of my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Nailoz/simple

    well, when I tried to study why i lost that almost 3k dps. I realized two things, first of then I wasnt using DrainSouler and was trusting the ticks of Drain Soul from Quartz.. so basically I lost 4-5 ticks of it in the fight, other thing I got 2x Countdown so I had to move and probably lost some dps of it. But I don't think that explain the 3k dps loss entirely. I really think I am still missing something. Can anyone help me finding what?
    Last edited by Nailo; 2011-08-10 at 06:07 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nailo View Post
    Guys, I'd love some help if anyone would check my dps. Running simulations in SimCraft I got a 30400 dps but in a fight like Baleroc Heroic that I should do almost that damage I did only 27600. Can anyone check my log and point something I am doing wrong?

    Link of the Log: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...=13781&e=14147

    Link of my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Nailoz/simple

    well, when I tried to study why i lost that almost 3k dps. I realized two things, first of then I wasnt using DrainSouler and was trusting the ticks of Drain Soul from Quartz.. so basically I lost 4-5 ticks of it in the fight, other thing I got 2x Countdown so I had to move and probably lost some dps of it. But I don't think that explain the 3k dps loss entirely. I really think I am still missing something. Can anyone help me finding what?
    Haunt hasn't bin on the boss for 18 seconds of that fight, which, including with those things, might make the 3k dps difference. Also, watch your char in advanced. Your reforging seems kind of wierd, any explanation? (Considering you're affliction and I doubt you reforge for demo every fight)

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    You doubted wrong my friend..... I reforge every time I change spec.... changed this because of Rag heroic and my guildie wanting to try the aoe tactic of killing molten elementals so I had to reforge everything to mastery. And I was unable to check that 18s without haunt.... I can see there was 2 gaps of time in the middle of the buff that he wasn't with haunt. Probably the same time I had to run because countdown. Getting torment twice because of that so I had to run all the way to a clear spot but yeah could had cast a haunt to avoid that. But dunno maybe I am still missing something... maybe because my latency isnt the best one because I don't live in US so I play with 140-200ms every day, maybe I am missing some time. But yeah thanks a lot... anything you noticed that I was doing wrong as well?

    Ps: Other thing I realized I got 4 more ticks of corruption than ticks of UA. This probably is something wrong I am doing about redotting UA correctly, correct if I am wrong. I always try to cast UA between 3s and 2s of his duration on the mob to reapply it as soon he got off or apply it while it will have the last tick.. The only exception to that is when I had to cast Haunt before it.

  8. #1008
    Who's your DI target? The uptime of your DI is only 86.6%, and it fell off 7 times making it have to ramp up again.

  9. #1009
    Pretty sure I dark intented the boomkim. What a crap refresh rate from him... Will check this with him today.

  10. #1010
    Hello fellow warlocks, I feel like I'm underperforming with my gear as affliction. I think the problem lies with me doing nothing with procs like volcano and power torrent and letting shadow embrace fall off when i'm draining soul or have to switch targets for a while.

    I've frapsed a BH25 where I ended up doing a mere 21k dps.
    My armory is carlsaganx on outland (can't post links in first post)
    In the vid I used i359 chest and belt.
    wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=yoALwkTsXok

  11. #1011
    I'd like to request some help from an experienced MM hunter. While I do not have logs available, I can state what I know and my rotation and such.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...abomb/advanced

    On most firelands fights I seem to peak up at 22-23kish but end the fight at 19-20.

    My Rotation is Serpent Sting>Chimera>Steady Shotx2>Aimed shot for fillers. I tried using arcane shot but it actually lowered my DPS. I feel like I should be doing more DPS but cant seem to break it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joels View Post
    I'd like to request some help from an experienced MM hunter. While I do not have logs available, I can state what I know and my rotation and such.

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...abomb/advanced

    On most firelands fights I seem to peak up at 22-23kish but end the fight at 19-20.

    My Rotation is Serpent Sting>Chimera>Steady Shotx2>Aimed shot for fillers. I tried using arcane shot but it actually lowered my DPS. I feel like I should be doing more DPS but cant seem to break it.
    Ah this must've popped up on the front page. This is a warlock thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broseidonx View Post
    Hello fellow warlocks, I feel like I'm underperforming with my gear as affliction. I think the problem lies with me doing nothing with procs like volcano and power torrent and letting shadow embrace fall off when i'm draining soul or have to switch targets for a while.

    I've frapsed a BH25 where I ended up doing a mere 21k dps.
    My armory is carlsaganx on outland (can't post links in first post)
    In the vid I used i359 chest and belt.
    wwwDOTyoutubeDOTcom/watch?v=yoALwkTsXok
    As far as I can see, your spec is ok, your rotation is ok. I couldn't check out your gear since you were in PvP gear on the armory. And 21k isn't too bad depending on RNG.

  14. #1014
    Hi Warlocks!

    First off, I have been playing this game for over 6 years now, but did so as a Priest (a healer at that, never played shadow). I am REALLY wanting to switch mains to my Warlock, but I am very unsure of myself. I have done a lot of reading and pewpew the training dummies face off, but I wanted some feedback.

    Here is my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Emees/advanced
    Here is a log of Occ, only fight I have right now: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s...um/damageDone/

    Any pointers/tips/help/reccomendations/etc would be very greatly appreciated!
    Basically, I just need some reassurance. Am I doing it right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ainra View Post
    Hi Warlocks!

    First off, I have been playing this game for over 6 years now, but did so as a Priest (a healer at that, never played shadow). I am REALLY wanting to switch mains to my Warlock, but I am very unsure of myself. I have done a lot of reading and pewpew the training dummies face off, but I wanted some feedback.

    Here is my armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Emees/advanced
    Here is a log of Occ, only fight I have right now: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/s...um/damageDone/

    Any pointers/tips/help/reccomendations/etc would be very greatly appreciated!
    Basically, I just need some reassurance. Am I doing it right?
    Small disclaimer before you read on; I'm tired 'cus it's friday.

    First of all, check the gem in your belt. Change it to +40 int.

    Then, on Occu'thar, your DI only had roughly 70% uptime. Check the DI thread.

    Then your dots. Terrible, terrible uptime. That's where your biggest problem is. Use Haunt on CD, make sure to keep your dots up (Google: Clipping, or short version: Cast UA when it's on for about 2 seconds more, same with BoD).. Wait what, BoD 72% uptime? It ticks once every 15 seconds so when it has 14 sec left you can already refresh it, making it close-to-100% uptime.

    Fix this, do DPS, profit

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    You're a bit wrong about those uptimes, if you take a look at the boss details instead of overall, you'll notice better uptimes.

    What I see going wrong in that fight is that the AoE on eyes seems to be bad. On the AoE phases you were off the boss long enough to let Haunt, Corruption, Unstable Affliction and Shadow Embrace fall off. What you can do to fix that is to cast Haunt on the boss when it's off cooldown, AoE or not, the 1.3 seconds of lost AoE shouldn't matter and by recasting Haunt only UA will fall off while the others get refreshed.

    You should stay close to the boss the entire time to allow you to Shadowflame him, you only used it for AoE but it's actually better than SB single target.

    Also, start the pull with a shadow bolt, the crit debuff doesn't update on the go like other debuffs so dots put up before Shadow and Flame is present won't get benefit from the 5% crit.

    Otherwise you're not doing so bad, not sure why the shadow priest failed you and let your DI fall off several times, but you're at least correct in that spriests are the usually good DI targets.

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    I might aswell go to bed on Fridays :>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Junblat View Post
    Greeting fellow warlocks, i am in need of some assistance please.

    start with SB,coe, pop demonsoul moonwell and demon form, immo hoG, corr BoD, am using the felhunter at p1 and p3, but on p2 i use fel guard to help on adds and aoe. use second demonform on first wave adds (not the hammer adds, sorry for got the names), and after smash i pop trinket demon form.
    The first significant dps loss i see is NOT starting with Felguard. Felguard Demon Soul is necessary for Demo to do competitive Damage.

    So your starting rotation should be pre-pot, sb, coe, pop moonwell and meta (using a castsequence macro or meta wont pick up mastery boost), demon soul, summon doomguard, felguard spin attack (lol forget the name), HOG and dots, then soul burn + summon felhunter. This will give you huge damage. Doomguard should do close to 1mm damage by himself.

    When meta is about to come off of CD, hard cast summon felguard and keep him up until P3. After second set of Sons mopped up, you can switch to felhunter for rest of fight.

    (btw, some people soul burn+soul harvest before pull but not necessary as this fight had adds to recover shards)

  19. #1019
    Thank you very much for the advice! I know one fight (and an easy AOE one at that) isn't the best to show, so I really appreciate the feedback. I will work on everything suggested. Thanks again

  20. #1020
    Hello, here is some discription: 3 weeks ago I got back to game after a month break. I managed to find a new guild and get some firelands epics. Point is I feel like doing worse dps than I used to even in tier 11 raids. I think I'm capable to pull more than 17/18k. Unfortunately I can't post any links yet. But you may check my armory- Gangsta Darksorrow or check WoL- my guild is called ensuna. I may private message all the links too.


    I would be very greatful for help, cheers.

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