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    Quote Originally Posted by trapatonex123 View Post
    how much avg dps should i be pulling on single target as affliction?
    i'm 473 ilvl. http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Khaor/advanced
    i'm currently pulling around 49-50k and that seems like a low dps for 473 ilvl to me so i could use some tips.
    i'm using normal affliction rotation.

    simc_Khaor.html
    That is with full support though. If you are in a 10 man group, there is a good chance that you might not have every buff. If you can tell me your setup, I could adjust the sim accordingly.
    Your gear looks fine.

    A few notes though:
    You have a bit too much hit. Every point over 15% does give you exactly zero dps.
    Don't say rotation, as no warlock uses a rotation. It's a priority
    The simcraft dps is under perfect condition with no movement. That doesn't happen anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rajjejosefsson View Post
    I wonder if someone could see if i've reforged wrong or something, because my dps shall be on 72k but im just around 55k, affliction warlock. I've seen the movie someone on the warlock forum have posted so how to get better dps?

    not allowed to post any links yet so kinda hard i guess for you to help me...
    i dont now how to read the simcraft reforge plot. how to know if its good..

    picture of reforge plot result
    tinypic.com/r/2prh36a/6

    eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/frostmane/Swanepoel/simple

    wowreforge.com/EU/Frostmane/Swanepoel

    Spell Power18167
    Haste11.18%
    Hit+14.76%
    Mastery54.01%
    Crit8.17%
    Use this meta gem. Otherwise, I can't detect anything wrong with your gear or reforgeing.

    If you use the reforge plot, change the rating delta to 2000 or so, a 200 points delta is quite useless nowadays, as that's about a single reforge.
    The slight dps-increase in your plot, comes from the Corruption+2 breakpoint you hit at 4717haste rating. For a full list of breakpoints, you can use this page.

    Where do you get the scale factors you use on that reforge site?

    Like I told the guy above you. Your dps can differ quite strong from the perfect setup situation by not having all the buffs/debuffs. You can uncheck the buffs/debuffs you dont have in the corresponding simcraft tab. Also movement and "inefficient" use of Bloodlust can reduce your dps quite drastically.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddk View Post
    I'm just looking for some suggestions on how to DPS the Stone Guardians. I'm finding that maintaining dots on both targets means that my Malefic Grasp uptime is very low and that my Haunts are somewhat wasted. I feel like I'm doing about 60% DPS on two targets because of it. Sure, that amounts to 120% of normal DPS, but I feel I could do better, especially since the significantly lower geared rogue is beating me by about 5k+
    (Combat)Rogue cleave is quite simple yet strong.
    Also in cleave situation, it's preferable to use GoSup or GoServ instead of GoSac as like you said, your MG uptime is lower in a cleave/multitarget situation and MG is more or less the only thing that GoSac amplifies. Just make sure that your pet doesn't attack an inactive boss.
    Use (non glyphed) Soul Swap to pull all dots off a Guard that goes inactive and put them on the one that becomes active That way you save one gcd on every swap. Some people may prefere glyphed Soul Swap. I dont.
    Last edited by Elmi; 2012-11-12 at 06:19 PM.

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    Hi! I'm posting on behalf of my guilds warlock. He seems to be doing extremely low DPS, which has caused us quite a bit of problems for a while. As a shadow priest, I've been trying to help him out with how to manage his DoTs and whatnot, but I don't know the class enough to go into details.
    Most recent logs:
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=1029&e=1480 - Zor'lok
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=1872&e=2292 - Ta'yak
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=7153&e=7556 - Garalon

    Last weeks clear: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dwtco86vuhvds42b/ - a full raid night..

    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/Ammii/simple

    Very much appreciate any kind of help. Best regards, Mumu.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elmi View Post
    Also in cleave situation, it's preferable to use GoSup or GoServ instead of GoSac as like you said, your MG uptime is lower in a cleave/multitarget situation and MG is more or less the only thing that GoSac amplifies. Just make sure that your pet doesn't attack an inactive boss.
    Use (non glyphed) Soul Swap to pull all dots off a Guard that goes inactive and put them on the one that becomes active That way you save one gcd on every swap. Some people may prefere glyphed Soul Swap. I dont.
    Thanks.

    Which pet should I use? I know affliction used to favour the Fel Hunter but without the buff should I just bring an imp?
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  4. #1944
    Hello Fellow Warlocks

    We raid 25man on our Server and got stuck on Elegon yesterday... Our DPS has to be improved a lot, this is why I post here for the first time. Can you guys help me?

    This is the link for the last fight, which was our best
    worldoflogs.com/reports/kx9h55z6nv6rq1ut/details/17/?s=7005&e=7583

    My Char can be found in the Armory here:
    eu.battle.net/wow/de/character/kiljaeden/Alpenseppi/simple (I now, Mainweapon entchant still missing, forgot about it yesterday... -.-)

    Usually during Elegons-Spark-Phase I instantly Soulshard - Swap two Sparks, after they're killed I regain 2 shards from the Boss....

    Our performance yesterday wasn't that good, especially all the trys in the beginning (only 2 Sparks, No Tank at the Boss, no AoE-ing etcetc.). About my own performance, I think the damage in the last try improved a lot, compared to the beginning... But I'm sure I can still improve....

    I'd be really glad if you could give me some advice.

    Thanks a lot!

    Cheers!

  5. #1945
    Quote Originally Posted by S3ppi View Post
    I'd be really glad if you could give me some advice.
    Your raid needs to kill more waves of Energy Charges - I see 8 stacks of Draw Power (Kraftentzug), when 10 or 12 would be much better.

    Your Touch of the Titans buff (Berührung der Titanen) is low (66%). I compared to a recent kill of mine, and at the same point in the fight my uptime was 83%. Are you using the jumping trick? Are you remembering to keep in the Energy Vortex while DPSing the Energy Charges?

    I don't think you should SB:SS two sparks - I assume you have assignments, so everyone should be able to handle their own. SB:SS on multiple sparks is a bad use of Shards (because those DoTs get low uptime), and it'll hurt you on the later waves (at 5 or 6 you might want to SB:SS + DS or SB:SS + Haunt).

    The most important things about the Charge phase is to use your Shards slowly early on, when the Charges are still slow.

    I think Archimonde's Vengeance is the weakest talent for this fight. You would be better served using KJC (for moving to the correct location while MG-ing during transition) or especially MF so that you can hit SB:SoC on the Charges more easily.

    Otherwise, it is important for all Affliction locks to learn how to manage their DoTs - it is not simply making sure that they are on all the time, but that the DoTs with the strongest procs stay on the longest. We didn't have it before, but Affdots, the addon by Ridcully, should make it much easier.

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    Thumbs up

    Thank you very much for taking the time to look the stats up! (Y)

    The problem with the "Touch of the Titans" seems to be quite big for all of us (a lot of people, including me, from 60-70%), and if we manage the sparks better it could soon turn out as a success. And I will make sure of using your tipps when we try Elegon the next time.


    Thanks a lot!

  7. #1947
    Hi all. I've played a lock for some time now, but as soon as I stepped into these new raids, I've found my dps to be extremely low. Especially for a class and spec that's considered one of the best for damage. If someone could take a look at my logs and could identify my problem I'd be hugely grateful! Because I simply cannot work out for the life of me what exactly I can do to be doing better. My gear is mainly reforged into hit, so I know that can't be helping but still, any help will be much appreciated.

    logs: /reports/rt-xjl79rzuje4g6hs6/sum/damageDone/?s=3985&e=4516 & /reports/rt-xjl79rzuje4g6hs6/sum/damageDone/?s=2986&e=3494

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teeps View Post
    Hi all. I've played a lock for some time now, but as soon as I stepped into these new raids, I've found my dps to be extremely low. Especially for a class and spec that's considered one of the best for damage. If someone could take a look at my logs and could identify my problem I'd be hugely grateful! Because I simply cannot work out for the life of me what exactly I can do to be doing better. My gear is mainly reforged into hit, so I know that can't be helping but still, any help will be much appreciated.

    logs: /reports/rt-xjl79rzuje4g6hs6/sum/damageDone/?s=3985&e=4516 & /reports/rt-xjl79rzuje4g6hs6/sum/damageDone/?s=2986&e=3494
    You're not yet at a point where you should be gemming mastery over intellect. So your gemming is off. You're also missing a shoulder enchant and a waist belt buckle. You can find out more about your statweights through simcraft.
    As far as your DPS goes, I'll need logs from a proper tank and spank fight in order to tell you what you're doing wrong. Get a log of Feng or Spirit Kings. I can imagine that you're not using your procs correctly, by refreshing dots when procs proc and again before they fall off, depending on proc strength and dot times ofcourse.

  9. #1949
    First time posting, please be gentle xD here are 2 logs from garalon. First log, not bad however i feel I could be doing about 15k more. Second log is unacceptable and if I was in charge of dps I would have benched myself. So any insight as to why I might be doing so terrible let me know please

    Thanks in advance
    hmm can't post links worldoflogs/realms/nodrassil/New Pantheon/Dragonala
    I was refering to logs on on the 7th and 14th however will take whatever insight on anything people want to share.

  10. #1950

    Want to increase DPS on Empress,logs attached!

    I'd like to increase my dps on Empress. I'm fairly sure my reforge and gemming is right, however i may wrong and I'll leave that up for discussion as-well. I've achieved the 4717 threshold and am leaning on 6700 mastery. i could drop 450 haste for mastery, although I'm not entirely sure that's beneficial.

    Log's are attached and I'm seeking any input on how to increase my dps on the fight. ( I did get feared 4-5 times back to back on our kill attempt, which could explain it)

    Any advice, comments, and suggestions would be appreciated.

    WoL log:http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/g...=14789&e=15328

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...temup/advanced

  11. #1951
    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonala View Post
    First time posting, please be gentle xD here are 2 logs from garalon. First log, not bad however i feel I could be doing about 15k more. Second log is unacceptable and if I was in charge of dps I would have benched myself. So any insight as to why I might be doing so terrible let me know please

    Thanks in advance
    hmm can't post links worldoflogs/realms/nodrassil/New Pantheon/Dragonala
    I was refering to logs on on the 7th and 14th however will take whatever insight on anything people want to share.
    Log link to those of the 14th, for those interested, cause the link given did not work at all. http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...um/damageDone/


    EDIT:

    Just to show you the difference in something important. Look at this section I selected: http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/r...?s=5581&e=5621

    It's from the first ~35 seconds of the Garalon fight. Compare your damage to that of the other lock, then look specifically at the number of dot ticks you and he have. He's got almost double the amount, meaning he most likely took advantage of some haste effects you very obviously did not use. That other lock in your raid seems to know what he's doing, talk to him, ask how he handles his opening and compare it to what you do. Make the needed changes, profit!
    Last edited by xskarma; 2012-11-15 at 06:21 PM.
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    You might have better luck getting advice using the proper thread here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...efore-posting)
    Cyner#1996

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ombre View Post
    I'd like to increase my dps on Empress. I'm fairly sure my reforge and gemming is right, however i may wrong and I'll leave that up for discussion as-well. I've achieved the 4717 threshold and am leaning on 6700 mastery. i could drop 450 haste for mastery, although I'm not entirely sure that's beneficial.

    Log's are attached and I'm seeking any input on how to increase my dps on the fight. ( I did get feared 4-5 times back to back on our kill attempt, which could explain it)

    Any advice, comments, and suggestions would be appreciated.

    WoL log:http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/g...=14789&e=15328

    Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...temup/advanced


    Quote Originally Posted by Cyner View Post
    You might have better luck getting advice using the proper thread here: http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...efore-posting)
    Indeed, merged the thread with the normal DPS thread.
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    So I have been having issues with my numbers in general. I like to think I am well versed in the theorycraft of my class but I am just not putting out the numbers I know I can be. Below are the logs from a MV clear with a couple heroics from last week. I swap between affliction and demo depending on the fight. Also, note I am usually the one to take on side things like tiles so I know that does affect my numbers somewhat.

    http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/fd68kciz59qf0ke3/

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    Help our warlock out!

    Hello Warlocks!
    So my guild finally managed to kill Garalon yesterday, after about an hour and a half's worth of 300k-2 million hp wipes.
    Now our Warlock is our best geared player, yet I feel like he's not preforming as well as he should.

    WoL for Last Night (don't mind the BS Ulduar and Obsidian Sanctum logs, I forgot to turn combatlogging off.)
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-0zmv6nwjrappb977/

    Armory of our Warlock
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...patriat/simple

    Now, if there's anything you can do to help him out, that'd be swell

    Thank you.


    <At least you could look at the headers of those stickies...>
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jomu View Post
    Hi! I'm posting on behalf of my guilds warlock. He seems to be doing extremely low DPS, which has caused us quite a bit of problems for a while. As a shadow priest, I've been trying to help him out with how to manage his DoTs and whatnot, but I don't know the class enough to go into details.
    Most recent logs:
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=1029&e=1480 - Zor'lok
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=1872&e=2292 - Ta'yak
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-4u...?s=7153&e=7556 - Garalon

    Last weeks clear: http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dwtco86vuhvds42b/ - a full raid night..

    Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...n/Ammii/simple

    Very much appreciate any kind of help. Best regards, Mumu.
    Ilvl 484 - This guy is not doing too bad..
    He has not had a decent head drop nor weapon drop - These will boost his DPS by a lot just by themselves.
    Even though he is currently using a blue weapon - I would enchant that with jadespirit instantly. Awesome proc.
    See now in regards to his hit, under cap, which most affliction locks do not need, if they are really skilled or have been playing that spec for a long time imo.
    I personally would get him to try and reach the cap - then test it, because if his Agony is reaching 10 stacks, he goes to reapply and misses.... That will mess it up instantly.
    Regarding stats, get him to sim. See what is currently best for him. I am Ilvl 491 atm - And reforged into haste alot more than i had previously, to see what difference it made and it actually lowered my dps. So possibly ask him to try that also.
    Int - haste gems, Slap him for that.
    Spriest is all about the haste, not so much for locks atm.
    One last thing - check his uptime on his main DoTs - Agony unstable affliction and corruption - All of which mastery increases the damage of.. His up time of them is not so great.
    He just needs a bit of tweaking.

    ---------- Post added 2012-11-16 at 03:18 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Pigy View Post
    Hello Warlocks!
    So my guild finally managed to kill Garalon yesterday, after about an hour and a half's worth of 300k-2 million hp wipes.
    Now our Warlock is our best geared player, yet I feel like he's not preforming as well as he should.

    WoL for Last Night (don't mind the BS Ulduar and Obsidian Sanctum logs, I forgot to turn combatlogging off.)
    http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-0zmv6nwjrappb977/

    Armory of our Warlock
    http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...patriat/simple

    Now, if there's anything you can do to help him out, that'd be swell

    Thank you.


    <At least you could look at the headers of those stickies...>

    I could look into lots of things, however - WoL Parse - Damage done - Expatriat - Dmg by spell - Uptime.
    That simple really, below average uptime on each DoT.
    Overall active time less than 60%.

    Edit: Decided to look a bit more.. The Jade on use trinket - Not being used at all. Its rubbish but still..
    Change the weapon enchant. And bad bad gems. Get him to Sim mastery gems, just get him to sim lol.
    Trial and error.
    Last edited by Rosalie25; 2012-11-16 at 03:22 PM.

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    Thanks for the input, and I have noticed his DoT uptime being rather low, however for the kill he had 97, 90 and 94 % uptime, while it isn't ideal it isn't terrible.
    Not using his trinket is horrible however, and if he's ungemmed that's a problem as well.
    What I can't figure out though is how he basically standstill (he wasn't kiting pheromones) pulled 70k dps on the kill, what with multidotting available, the moonkin, who is a healer gone offspec, and who was also kiting the pheromones, almost did as much dps as him.
    So what am I missing, or are locks just terrible for Garalon?

  18. #1958
    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalie25 View Post
    Ilvl 484 - This guy is not doing too bad..
    That is not a valid excuse. I'm at 484 with the Necromantic Wand and a Blue Helm (but I do have Light of the Cosmos) and I pulled almost 60k more than the guy in question on Elegon (in a kill that was a minute longer).

    The problem is pretty easy to see - http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dw...+%3D+TYPE_CAST

    He is weaving in Fel Flame for no reason, he is not maximizing his procs. Literally every Warlock that has a DPS problem has that latter problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pigy View Post
    Thanks for the input, and I have noticed his DoT uptime being rather low, however for the kill he had 97, 90 and 94 % uptime, while it isn't ideal it isn't terrible.
    Not using his trinket is horrible however, and if he's ungemmed that's a problem as well.
    What I can't figure out though is how he basically standstill (he wasn't kiting pheromones) pulled 70k dps on the kill, what with multidotting available, the moonkin, who is a healer gone offspec, and who was also kiting the pheromones, almost did as much dps as him.
    So what am I missing, or are locks just terrible for Garalon?
    Personally i noticed my guilds shadow priest has a field day on this fight, somewhat different for myself as affliction :P
    It doesn't seem to be that great for affliction locks, dotting passing legs and the boss should give reasonable dps, it's possible that moving around alot is decreasing his dps.
    I'd have to dig deeper but thats something he needs to do tbh, to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustjive View Post
    That is not a valid excuse. I'm at 484 with the Necromantic Wand and a Blue Helm (but I do have Light of the Cosmos) and I pulled almost 60k more than the guy in question on Elegon (in a kill that was a minute longer).

    The problem is pretty easy to see - http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-dw...+%3D+TYPE_CAST

    He is weaving in Fel Flame for no reason, he is not maximizing his procs. Literally every Warlock that has a DPS problem has that latter problem.
    Stating that for his Ilvl he isn't doing bad is a passing comment, nor is it an excuse, but an observation..

    But yeah fel flaming for no reason is bad, same with maximizing procs. Perhaps getting extracd or setting up weakauras may help in that case.
    I am not sat here over analyzing logs mainly because it should fall down to the lock in question to check it and double check it, there are plenty of resources available across many websites.
    And if it is down to rotation, and adding what should not be there, i'm pretty sure there is a "basics" video guide on mmo somewhere lol.
    Most common issues I see across the board is uptime - gemming - chants - using procs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rosalie25 View Post
    Personally i noticed my guilds shadow priest has a field day on this fight, somewhat different for myself as affliction :P
    It doesn't seem to be that great for affliction locks, dotting passing legs and the boss should give reasonable dps, it's possible that moving around alot is decreasing his dps.
    The difference is that he (the priest) is only losing his mind flay by multi-dotting, but is gaining tons of dot damage and mind spike procs, which then create instant mind blasts for him. You, on the other hand, are losing a lot of dot damage by multi-dotting due to MG.

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