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    Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Basicly im curious to how high the dps for other ret paladins is in raids and stuff.

    Heroics : 2.7k on average
    raids : 3.6K on average

    as a side note in this topic do you feel like your dps gets lower after most patches?

    dont forget to link your armory! for people to see your gear.

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    p.s. before anyone comments on it i know my spec is strange.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    heroics: i dont consier
    raids: 5k-8k depending on boss fight
    11k-14k on gimmick fights everyone loves them.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    You should get reid of that Grim Toll, pallies dont benefit as much from ArP as other melee classes, only take it over haste, Expertise/Hit (if your capped). And get rid of that Libram get the one for 25 Triumph badges, the one you have is horrible.

    As for my pally 5.5-6k in a 25 man raid environment on non gimmick fights

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Its really tough to get a bearing on where my DPS is lately. All of the boss fights are either gimmick or gimped.

    Beasts - downtime, target switching, lots of running
    Jaraxxus - multiple target sometimes, lots of movement with flames, volcanos, infernals
    Faction Champions - Can you gauge your DPS in arena?
    Twin Valkyr - Amazing fight for pallys. 2 targets, crazy buffs, nearly 100% time on target
    Anub - Multiple targets sometimes, lots of moving and downtime, heavy use of utility abilities throughout the fight

    All of that text wasted, I'd say that I would be pulling anywhere from 6.5-7.7k on a single target, non-moving fight.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prentice
    Its really tough to get a bearing on where my DPS is lately. All of the boss fights are either gimmick or gimped.

    Beasts - downtime, target switching, lots of running
    Jaraxxus - multiple target sometimes, lots of movement with flames, volcanos, infernals
    Faction Champions - Can you gauge your DPS in arena?
    Twin Valkyr - Amazing fight for pallys. 2 targets, crazy buffs, nearly 100% time on target
    Anub - Multiple targets sometimes, lots of moving and downtime, heavy use of utility abilities throughout the fight

    All of that text wasted, I'd say that I would be pulling anywhere from 6.5-7.7k on a single target, non-moving fight.
    It really does depend on the fight but i pull about the same.
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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    your dps is quite weak for your gear (similar to mine, our guild doesnt do ToC runs, sadly)

    Looking at your profile, i saw stamina gems. if you really want the socket bonus, put purple gems instead. Gem full str in doubt, and forget the socket.

    Your +hit is too much, but your expertise is very low. You'll get parried / dodged a lot, thus the low dps.

    you should aim 4k in heroics, 5-6 in raids.

    look at my armory in sig, i do usually 4.5 in heroics, and around 6 in 25 (more on XT/Kolo... ofc)

    edit : more precise, get valiance libram. gem full str, exchange your belt (you got 40 over hit rating) against a leather +expertise one bought with badges. Attack bosses from behind. You should definitly see a progression.

    From there, try the RAWR program.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Can pull of around 5-5.5k in patchwerk/VoA fights numbers differ in ToC

    4k in heroics if anyone cares, <3 SoC

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Mine is about 5.5-6.5 in 25 man raids depending on the fight. Im sure mine could be better but my problem is i have no expertise, very little haste, and im way way way over my hit cap. Hopefully some of this gear drops in 25 TOC that i have been waiting for. Till then i could concider rolling on mail and leather dps gear if none of the guildies need it. Unless anyone else has any ideas?



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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    2,5k-3k in heroics, pretty badly geared Retardin tho. ;>
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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Here are a few suggestions...

    As stated before, lose the Grim Toll. If you can afford it, get a Darkmoon Card: Greatness. If not, a Fury of the Five Flights from OS25 would be ok. If you can get in a 10 man ToC, the trinket from Faction Champs is good and will also help solve the expertise problem.

    Change out your Divine Storm and Exorcism glyphs and get Glyph of Consecrate and Glyph of Seal of Vengeance. Again Glyph of SoV will help with the expertise problem. And always use SoV/SoR

    Gem for straight strength. Socket bonus' are not really worth what is lost by gemming for strength. For 1 blue slot, use the +10 stats gem, and for 1 Yellow Slot use a Str/Crit Gem. Make sure you use the meta that require 1 Blue, 1 Red, 1 Yellow. I believe its the Relentless Earthseige one.

    Get the Libram for 25 Emblems of Triumph. Can't beat what is basically a permanent Strength buff.

    Keep your hit rating at or near 263 give or take.

    These few thing will yeild you a ton more DPS. I am averaging 5-7k on regular fights, 8-10k on gimmick fights. I can't get my link in this post to work right but you can look me up in armory. Beylah, on Blackhand.

    Hope the information helps...



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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    With my gear, around 5-6.5k average non-gimmic or gimped fight. Once I get either my 2pc T9 or 4pc T8.5 (Pants are in the bank) I'll be set.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Beylah

    Gem for straight strength. Socket bonus' are not really worth what is lost by gemming for strength. For 1 blue slot, use the +10 stats gem, and for 1 Yellow Slot use a Str/Crit Gem. Make sure you use the meta that require 1 Blue, 1 Red, 1 Yellow. I believe its the Relentless Earthsiege one.
    Only thing I'm going to say is that you don't actually need the orange gem because the Nightmare Tear takes care of all three gem colors. Obviously if the socket bonus is really good and/or if you have 2pc T9 then a str/crit gem would be a better dps boost.
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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by peacemaster
    Only thing I'm going to say is that you don't actually need the orange gem because the Nightmare Tear takes care of all three gem colors. Obviously if the socket bonus is really good and/or if you have 2pc T9 then a str/crit gem would be a better dps boost.
    Note that a Str/Crit gem will only be better than a Pure STR gem in socket bonuses that yield +4 or more Strength while you maintain the 2pc T9 bonus.

    That is to say, if an item has a single Red socket, but has a socket bonus of 4 Stamina, then the +20 STR will be better: If it had a bonus of +4 STR, however, then a +10 STR/rit gem will yield more DPS.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    If were taking a single target dps fight like general (normal) or jaraxxus im close to 8k dps. Thing is neither of those fights really matter all that much. On fights like Kologarn or Ignis, Im ~10k. On everything else I float between 5k to 15k.
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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Munk
    If were taking a single target dps fight like general (normal) or jaraxxus im close to 8k dps. Thing is neither of those fights really matter all that much. On fights like Kologarn or Ignis, Im ~10k. On everything else I float between 5k to 15k.
    If you are pulling 8k on General Vezax, you are stomping me into the ground. Because of the Aura of Despair, my DPS takes it in the shorts. On Monday night, our guild did hard mode 25man General. I believe I had a personal best DPS of 6250. I must be missing something or perhaps you are mistaken.

    8k on Jaraxxus is much more believable for several reasons. Demon (3% more damage), Exorcism guaranteed crit, adds for more splash damage, and the ability to use Holy Wrath.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prentice
    If you are pulling 8k on General Vezax, you are stomping me into the ground. Because of the Aura of Despair, my DPS takes it in the shorts. On Monday night, our guild did hard mode 25man General. I believe I had a personal best DPS of 6250. I must be missing something or perhaps you are mistaken.

    8k on Jaraxxus is much more believable for several reasons. Demon (3% more damage), Exorcism guaranteed crit, adds for more splash damage, and the ability to use Holy Wrath.
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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    6-7k is fairly normal on most ToC fights.

    I crush meters on twins; 11-14k on kill attempts based on the timing of empowered.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Quote Originally Posted by EndGame
    6-7k is fairly normal on most ToC fights.

    I crush meters on twins; 11-14k on kill attempts based on the timing of empowered.
    Its better if you stack them up like you do for the timed kill

    I just happen to run with a lot of melee with my raid so unless we attemot the timed kill I usually don't get a lot of orbs

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    Heroics - ~5k overall at the end (only started looking again after I tried out the new seal of cleave)

    Raids - Can't give you too accurate of a number because my guild only does 10 mans, so i don't have all the buffs.
    Though I think I pull somewhere in the 6k range on non-moving fights.

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    Re: Ret paladins : So how high is your dps?

    4 - 4.5k in heroics and 6 - 6.5k in raids. Glyphed for righteousness, and no SoC (pvp spec)


    My gear isn't that great in comparison to the level of content, haven't raided in months, and I lack 2 piece T9. I know it could be a lot better between some gear and a re-spec.

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