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  1. #81

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    I CBA to read through 6 pages, but i dont really see the point in making hots tick more often since all its gonna do is force you to recast them more often.

    DoTs on the other hand is a different story, you want them to do the most damage possible over a short period of time.
    HoTs are already situational, sometimes you want to hot 15 people and other times you only need to put them on 2-5 guys. So making them tick more often means less effective healing over a set amount of time.

    Just my 2 cents.

  2. #82

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    more damage or healing ticks before they are cleansed or dispelled i guess
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  3. #83

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    I don't see the problem people seem to have with this badge system changes. This is the same idea of thinking bums on the street shouldn't be allowed to spend a dollar in change they find on the streets at the same vending machine a white collar man does because he made that dollar in a paycheck instead of looking on the streets for it. It's a fucking vending machine, or in this case a vendor, get over it. Bums are allowed to walk into your rich stores and buy things with their money just like everyone else is. Get over yourself already.

  4. #84

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    I like the badge changes they've been doing. Why? Well, i'm a member of a raiding alliance on my server. We've got, at the moment, 2 25-man ToC groups. 3 10-man ToC groups. Both groups are also doing Ulduar hard modes, to squeeze that last bit of DPS you sometimes need to get past ToGC beasts. (and proto-drakes) Currently, due to RL issues or burnout, nearly every raid needs at least 1 person.

    The pugs on my server apparently don't do Naxx anymore. I'll see maybe one or two 10 mans, and very rarely 25 man. I've yet to see pugs for Ulduar, except on Mondays, and even then it's just Flame Leviathan.

    Do you really want to have to gear up someone through Naxx, Ulduar, and ToC in order to replace someone for Icecrown? I don't. especially when your OT finally gives up fighting his connection and decides to lay off raiding.

    232 T9 isn't that big of a deal. There's already people out there sporting some of it that have never seen the inside of ToC. Good. That lets the raid leader grab someone who is skilled at their class who would ordinarily be passed over because he's still in heroic/Emblem of Heroism gear.

  5. #85

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Remember you can gear a skilled player but you cant skill a geared player. Whether you like the badge change or not Blizz will do it anyways. People can get angry or vent about it all they want but the scrub in badge gear, reguardless of the iLVL, will only be invited based on gear once. If you dont know your class mechanics gear means nothing.

  6. #86

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Oggy
    [blizzquote="Ghostcrawler;http://blue.mmo-champion.com/27/20143783048-dots-hots-and-haste.html]We are trying to make haste a slightly more attractive stat for classes that utilize a lot of damage or healing over time spells, specifically Shadow priests, warlocks (though especially Affliction) and Resto druids. We realize other classes use hots and dots too, [font=Verdana]but I think we can all agree that it's a bigger problem for the ones I mentioned[/font].[/blizzquote"]

    Wow... how about they look over all the classes first and see that there are some (hunters in my case) that dont want a single point of haste casuse its SUCH A BAD stat in total.

    We are in most cases haste capped with 0 haste. Haste aint affecting gcd.
    You're only haste capped if you using a scroll wheel macro with all your abilities instead of pressing the keys

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    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Why are blizzard changing the emblems again? Why do they want scrubs to get full t9 in a day? Why do they want scrubs to see ICC when neither of those actually will kill Yogg'Saron? Let them work a little damnit. I hate this. Working hard, yet the scrubs get whatever they want if they wait a month. I will love to see people in blue weapons and green trinkets running with full t9. Whats the point?

    Like my brother, when I tell him to do daily heroics to get emblems, he just answers "CBA". Now people who don't even deserve it can get full t9 without any effort even.

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  8. #88

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Daxter

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    I've never said Blizzard is making the game too easy, well...because boss fights have only gotten more complex over the years. Just the triumph as the base badge is just......

    No.
    You must be playing a different game than the rest of the raiding community than. The fights in Wrath are SIGNIFICANTLY easier to pull off than anything previously put out for us to tackle. The only fight that even got remotely close to anything previously tackled was Yogg +0 and even that was taken down a hell of a lot faster than say Vashj was in TBC. Can't say as i recall seeing to many Pug's clearing SSC, TK , BT or (lol) Sunwell. People PuG 10 and 25 man Ulduar and ToC all the time and clear it with ease. Heck you don't even have to bother with trash on ToC.

    I could care less if they give them triumph badges for doing heroics. There are heroic boss that are harder to down than some of these supposed raid bosses for pete sakes.

    What i find most interesting about this whole thread is that i see people in all this high end gear and they STILL cannot play their class correctly. So who really cares what gear they have access to?

  9. #89

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    The days of Vashj, KAel and Sunwell ended a long time ago. Modern day WoW is like a themepark, everytime a new raid opens, people line up to take a whack at each loot filled pinata-boss, which diminishes the feeling of accomplishment at killing any such bosses. Its pathetic.

    When they told us Naxx was going to be easy to be the introduction raid, I never thought they intended to make all fucking raids just as faceroll on normal mode. Its fucking bullshit, it deminishes the accomplishment of actually killing stuff, and it also diminishes the value of any gear you get along the way.

    Awesome shit bliz, your greed for more subscriptions is killing the heart and soul the game used to have.

  10. #90

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    So i've just finished farming boring HC's for EoC for my main and OS gear and now I will have to do it all again for EoT gear?
    Come on Blizzard, you can't be serious.
    HC's are soo easy they are dull as dishwater....don't make me have to keep doing them again and again and again....cos I have better things to do with my time.

    Your gaming business model is no longer working. It will fail long term. Check your subscription numbers, I guess they are falling cos I have not seen any posts lately saying how many subscribers you now have.

  11. #91

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by BigDave
    So i've just finished farming boring HC's for EoC for my main and OS gear and now I will have to do it all again for EoT gear?
    Come on Blizzard, you can't be serious.
    HC's are soo easy they are dull as dishwater....don't make me have to keep doing them again and again and again....cos I have better things to do with my time.

    Your gaming business model is no longer working. It will fail long term. Check your subscription numbers, I guess they are falling cos I have not seen any posts lately saying how many subscribers you now have.
    Blizzard doesn't make you do anything, why not simply do these better things instead of playing?

    The lack of self-discipline in people in general these days is scary...

  12. #92

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    haha amg farming heroics forever thats what u gotta do!! ilvl 232 is only thing they gonna get , need a token for 245 so like others said, ppl still gonna be miles behind.
    I only do the daily heroic and even then i can be picky, fk those heroics. If u in a good guild that farms ToC 10-25 and comes a long way in the heroics , who needs those daily heroics for badges anyway? At the end of the day only thing u can show off is ur achievements tbh and a proto drake .


  13. #93

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Animalu

    I more thing i am completely bored of ppl with bis items with 0 skill from my server yes we have those also..
    Please tell me what BiS items you can get from badges?

  14. #94

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    I really dig the dots ticking faster. I have been saying since haste was implemented that is how it should affect. Was upset when I found out that it WASN'T like that. They should just go ahead and put it into content and skip the whole glyph thing :P
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  15. #95

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    Why should you care if I pick up a few new badge pieces to help my heroic farming? I'm sure you do your daily for badges, and I'm sure you've had a pug at some point. It's players like me that help fill out your group so you can get back to being elitist jerks as quickly as possible.

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    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Every time some kind of change happens to make gear a bit easier to get, or to make current gear more attainable to people who are behind in progression to help them catch up, the end result is people who think epics are still some form of entitlement QQ.

    Because, you know, this hasn't been going on in the game. Since Sunwell.

    Look at it on the bright side, people. UNLIKE the end of BC, where everyone who farmed Kara could get a WEAPON that was top 3 best in slot for most classes (the healer mace comes to mind), all they can get is armor and a trinket. The trinkets aren't even that incredible compared to raid drops.

    So, that being said, you are crying because a person may be in full T9 with an ilvl 200 or 219 weapon? Do you know exactly what that's going to do? Nothing.

    Guys, in the end, it's just a friggin' game. Chill out and enjoy it! If you hate it so much, there's an option called "stop playing because you think it's bad". If I think a game is bad, I don't play it. How is that a difficult concept to grasp?

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    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Aùssa02
    You can't be fucking serious guys.. that would be what id generally call: Really Retarded shit!

    I mean c'mon ofc we need casuals to be able to rock with the big tops, but aren't ToCr and Conquest Badge iLvl 226 gear enough..?

    am i really the only one who dont want to see idiots run around in full tier 9 after a day of heroic farming, the so far highest tier? ;s i mean really now it still takes atleast some kind of effort to get even a single piece of gear.. but with that.. i don't really know... what's it worth to be in full high ilvl BiS gear if i could get the same gear on a whole new 80 dinged char in a week or so..? i mean what's the challenge and achievement in that..? ???

    Dots, hots idea seems nice tbh but rather stupid aswell, not quite sure if i really like it or not..

    kind of disappointed by wow atm... :-\
    I am glad for the changes! This will allow many of us to see more content Blizzard has worked so hard on while still maintaining a quality RL.

    Best of all, we get to watch all the elitists fade into the sunset and for the game to become much for fun and greatly less drama filled.

    Bravo Blizzard!

  18. #98

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    Quote Originally Posted by Noxia
    Let's see... full tier 9 set, 5 items... 3x 75 + 2x 45 emblmems, totaling 315, translating into 80-100 heroic instances. Haha, fuck it, if someone has the patience to farm heroics that much, I say they deserve it. If they were casual it probably took them few weeks anyway.

    I came back for a month and thought it was an impossible amount to get for my feral bear and resto sets, but here I am with 70 some on emblems working towards my kitty dps set, having completely regeared with triumph and conquest for 2 of my 3 specs. With getting 2 pieces from VoA every week as well... easysauce.

    I'm loving the Dots, Hots, and haste thing since I already stack haste on my spriest and druid, I find it to be the #2 stat to stack after SP, which is why my spriest rolls just about every situation. This was my argument for haste months and months ago - I could get off a FULL rotation on the mage boss in Nexus after merge before the S&M tosser thing. That's how much haste I had and how much burst I could. Factor in mind flay.... jesus christ. Pure awesome.
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  19. #99

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    OMG WTF are they doing?!?! How dare they drop EoT in Heroics so people can experience old content while we move onto new content?!?! How dare they give 'scrubs' a chance to see the same stuff we saw last major content patch, even though we have a new raid to get into that they can't because T9.1 won't help them. How dare they!!!

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    Seriously get the hell over yourselves... it's not that big a deal that you're all making it out to be.
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  20. #100

    Re: Dots, hots and haste, Blue posts

    stay away from my hots!

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