Haste or Armo Pent

[Chronor209]

Which is better to have many Haste + Critical, or have a lot Armo penet + Critical.?

[Raiss]

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[6SWS]- Stat Weightings
Stat Weightings are the approximate value of stats when compared to 1 Attack Power- The higher the value, the more the stat is worth. Stat weights are great for comparing multiple pieces of gear that have different stats between them.


MH Speed....38199
MH DPS........568
Hit................210 (38)
Str................194
Exp...............123 (0)
Crit...............106
Agil...............100
Haste............83
ArPen............75
AP.................76

The values given in the parenthesis is the value of the stat once you reach the soft cap of the stat.

Based off the given Stat Weighting, one can determine which gems and enchantments are also most beneficial to your paladin- Note that the recommended Gems and Enchantments are assuming you have both your Hit rating and Expertise rating capped.

I heard that everytime someone opens a thread asking something that is writen in a FAQ, that person loses 50 DPS

[Horn]

I heard that everytime someone opens a thread asking something that is writen in a FAQ, that person loses 50 DPS

He is right you know.

[draco_nite]

I'm going to not be a troll and just tell you that haste is better than ArP.

[Tèmpést]

Pretty much, post #2 summed it up.

Although there was speculation about the T10 2-setter, allowing ArP to be viable as a DPS stat for Paladins (due to Divine Storm refreshing).

[Ronark]

I'm going to not be a troll and just tell you that haste is better than ArP.

We're not being trolls- We just don't want to spoon feed people when the answers they need is at the top of the forums.

[Deleted]

as it appears here, haste is better than ArP.

what i wonder, however: if these stats are compared to AP, then why is AP at a 76 value?

edit: 75 instead of 76.

[Xs]

Because Haste/ArP are 1-1, AP is 1-2 so AP is twice as good.

[Deleted]

Because Haste/ArP are 1-1, AP is 1-2 so AP is twice as good.

no, i meant: the stats were compared to AP. then why is AP not something like 1 or 100?

edit: i read AP: 76 as 1AP being worth 76 AP. or is it: 1 AP worth 100 AGI?

[Ronark]

as it appears here, haste is better than ArP.

what i wonder, however: if these stats are compared to AP, then why is AP at a 76 value?

edit: 75 instead of 76.

Because when compared to "pure" AP (found on Rings, Cloaks, and Leather armor), you'll get more of a benefit budgeting the item stats on Crit or Haste.

[Deleted]

Because when compared to "pure" AP (found on Rings, Cloaks, and Leather armor), you'll get more of a benefit budgeting the item stats on Crit or Haste.

yes, but i find it easier to compare a number to 1 or 100 then 76.

[Ronark]

yes, but i find it easier to compare a number to 1 or 100 then 76.

You could- But then you'd end up with Fractions- I think 76 is just the Common Denominator.

[Deleted]

You could- But then you'd end up with Fractions- I think 76 is just the Common Denominator.

just use comma numbers.

to take the example for ArP rating:

divide 76 AP by 76: 1. this is your benchmark for calculations.

then divide 75 by 76: 0.98.

now, what is easier to compare?

0.98 and 1?

or 75 and 76?

i personally go for the first one. but that is a bit personal preference.

another example, for crit: 106/76 = 1.39.

you can argue that this is not as accurate, but that argument only comes into play at scales like 1 rating.

i hope you agree that this is a much easier way to understand those numbers.

but i think we are better of holding this discussion in the ret paladin FAQ topic.

[Ronark]

just use comma numbers.

to take the example for ArP rating:

divide 76 AP by 76: 1. this is your benchmark for calculations.

then divide 75 by 76: 0.98.

now, what is easier to compare?

0.98 and 1?

or 75 and 76?

i personally go for the first one. but that is a bit personal preference.

another example, for crit: 106/76 = 1.39.

you can argue that this is not as accurate, but that argument only comes into play at scales like 1 rating.

i hope you agree that this is a much easier way to understand those numbers.

but i think we are better of holding this discussion in the ret paladin FAQ topic.

Again, I think it is to prevent Fractions.

[Eurytos]

Why are fractions bad? I haven't had problems with fractions since 2nd grade.

[Prentice]

I heard that countries using the metric system (aka SI) shouldn't use decimal values. They tend to confuse values with phone numbers. What is so hard about using dashes(-) instead of periods(.). Seriously?

[Eurytos]

uh, so people that are trying to find the best stat weights are going to assume we are talking about phone numbers all of a sudden? on mmo? about WoW?

[Prentice]

uh, so people that are trying to find the best stat weights are going to assume we are talking about phone numbers all of a sudden? on mmo? about WoW?

While my post was definitely sarcastic, I was simply trying to avoid an international incident. The simple fact that people can't use enough logic to find answers to simple questions like the one posed by the OP makes me believe that we need to water down everything on these forums.

[Deleted]

While my post was definitely sarcastic, I was simply trying to avoid an international incident. The simple fact that people can't use enough logic to find answers to simple questions like the one posed by the OP makes me believe that we need to water down everything on these forums.

trust me, we don't want that.

and we can use enough logic to find answers, i am just having a conversation with ronark about the scale he is using for his APE points in his guide.

[Ave07]

Good thing Ret t9 chest has ArP.