Only one piece of gear in toc 25

[kirbyrules]

So I hope they fix the itemization in ice crown because there is only one item itemized for Elemental Shaman in toc 25 man(its all I do). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47090. I know the tier is itemized good and some rings/trinkets/weapon but not everyone wins rolls on tiers. The non-tier gear should at least have some pieces made for us :'(. I really wish they would just make us use cloth gear that way it wouldn't be frowned upon if we roll on cloth gear.

Anyway anyone else hoping they Ice Crown items perfect for us to make up for our bad scaling? I want a bone.

[B@nj0 P3do]

So I hope they fix the itemization in ice crown because there is only one item itemized for Elemental Shaman in toc 25 man(its all I do). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47090. I know the tier is itemized good and some rings/trinkets/weapon but not everyone wins rolls on tiers. The non-tier gear should at least have some pieces made for us :'(. I really wish they would just make us use cloth gear that way it wouldn't be frowned upon if we roll on cloth gear.

Anyway anyone else hoping they Ice Crown items perfect for us to make up for our bad scaling? I want a bone.

Non-Tier badge gear? no?

[kirbyrules]

Non-Tier badge gear? no?

There is no non-tier badge gear for elemental shaman's. Unless you of course think stuff with mp/5 is good ???.

[Num]

I know youre about the lack on mail pieces, but getting cloth upgrades aint hard or have to make your clothiers QQ.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47638

and

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47639

have nothing to do with droprate, and cost the same for every caster alike. Also with chest taken out you are saved not to go to the skies with your hit raiting.

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47224 is considered BiS, if I remember correctly, but should be given to you after healers that want it.

I personally have nothing against the lack of mail, how many elemental shamans do you run with? 1-2? and after that having each of drop of that item be a total waste of "dropslot"

[boneschaman]

there is not enough or better no mail gear in toc25 but there are enough good cloth items:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...n&n=Boneshaman
currently I'm waiting for beasts 10 hm belt and factions 10hm boots. both cloth.

[kirbyrules]

Illiterate troll is illiterate...and a baddie.

^^ lol.
Anyway Num you do bring a good point i even have those wrists. Also After the elemental shaman's got their gear, that gear wouldn't be wasted because resto Sham's and Holy pally's both roll on the Elemental gear. I do have another point though, why are we forced to craft cloth gear. Couldn't it be mail instead(I know armor means nothing). If they didn't make it mail because we could just make the cloth gear instead why not they just force us to wear cloth lol. (I do not care that it is not lore happy because we wear cloth anyway ;D)

[superstargoddess]

^^ lol.
Anyway Num you do bring a good point i even have those wrists. Also After the elemental shaman's got their gear, that gear wouldn't be wasted because resto Sham's and Holy pally's both roll on the Elemental gear. I do have another point though, why are we forced to craft cloth gear. Couldn't it be mail instead(I know armor means nothing). If they didn't make it mail because we could just make the cloth gear instead why not they just force us to wear cloth lol. (I do not care that it is not lore happy because we wear cloth anyway ;D)

Luckily I am in an understanding guild who doesn't mind me rolling on cloth gear. Does your guild frown upon it? It is true though, there's a lot of BiS stuff out there for a few classes that is actually cloth instead of the maximum armor that they can wear. =/

[Bainz]

Luckily I am in an understanding guild who doesn't mind me rolling on cloth gear. Does your guild frown upon it? It is true though, there's a lot of BiS stuff out there for a few classes that is actually cloth instead of the maximum armor that they can wear. =/

Any smart Guild would allow it.
A Guild that forces a Shaman to pass on Cloth gear is just stupid.

[spkrb200]

So I hope they fix the itemization in ice crown because there is only one item itemized for Elemental Shaman in toc 25 man(its all I do). http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47090. I know the tier is itemized good and some rings/trinkets/weapon but not everyone wins rolls on tiers. The non-tier gear should at least have some pieces made for us :'(. I really wish they would just make us use cloth gear that way it wouldn't be frowned upon if we roll on cloth gear.

Anyway anyone else hoping they Ice Crown items perfect for us to make up for our bad scaling? I want a bone.

I feel your pain. Fury warriors use to have this problem before the imp berserker stance change and pretty much every bis item was leather or mail and, while I personally never had this problem, rogues and hunters would always whine and shit. Here's hoping icc gets better for shamans.

[kirbyrules]

Luckily I am in an understanding guild who doesn't mind me rolling on cloth gear. Does your guild frown upon it? It is true though, there's a lot of BiS stuff out there for a few classes that is actually cloth instead of the maximum armor that they can wear. =/

I think they would be understanding I just haven't won a roll on cloth to find out lol. Been with them for a little while now and it's the best ally guild on the server so I would never leave em. I assume that Blizzard will fix this next x-pac, but it would be nice for the last patch.

[kirbyrules]

I feel your pain. Fury warriors use to have this problem before the imp berserker stance change and pretty much every bis item was leather or mail and, while I personally never had this problem, rogues and hunters would always whine and shit. Here's hoping icc gets better for shamans.

Lol yea my Warrior at 3.0 had almost all leather gear on. I feel your pain as well.!

[Num]

For us DKP is DKP, time spent in an instance should be rewarded if its an upgrade for you. But its a different story about such gear as the ring i mentioned above, i think there would be speculations, but if youre smart, have your helers get it. spend your points on something funnier.

its a bit sad that the craftables and such "outside raid loot" most likely will be of charge on the players own pocket. thats the only downside as i can see it.

[Deleted]

Well, seeing as I'm too lazy to post the seperate links, I'll just do this:
http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sh...jatar&n=Dadimi
I've got the crafted CLOTH bracers, seeing as they're BiS.
Same goes for the 10man HC cloth belt, also BiS.
The last thing are those leather legs from Anub... now those I have aren't BiS, but the HC ones are.

So yeah, 3 of our BiS-pieces are cloth/leather. Can imagine it to be rather annoying for people in guilds that only let cloth-wearers roll on cloth.

[Bainz]

I think they would be understanding I just haven't won a roll on cloth to find out lol. Been with them for a little while now and it's the best ally guild on the server so I would never leave em. I assume that Blizzard will fix this next x-pac, but it would be nice for the last patch.

I don't know how you can just sit there and watch all the awesome gear fly by your eyes, if you're the best Guild on you're server I am sure you've cleared TOGC 10man and maybe progressing through or completed TOGC 25 and there is some insane upgrades in there for you if you're still decked in mail gear.

[arel00]

Try having *no* tanking weapon upgrades outside of Heroic Mode. And I mean *not a single one*.

Loot isn't always perfect.

[kirbyrules]

I don't know how you can just sit there and watch all the awesome gear fly by your eyes, if you're the best Guild on you're server I am sure you've cleared TOGC 10man and maybe progressing through or completed TOGC 25 and there is some insane upgrades in there for you if you're still decked in mail gear.

Yea they do clear everything but I am unfortunate to be taking 21 units this semester and can only raid their normal 25 man on weekends :'(. I don't expect to be in BiS, but (just throwing numbers our here) Resto Sham's get like 5 pieces from normal 25. I get like 1 in 25, and most likely 1 in the others excluding cloth.
Yea no tanking weapon does kinda suck but you do get a lot of other stuff .

[Ruargh]

He's elemental, e.g. -ranged- dps, he shouldn't get hit any more often then other ranged people (mostly cloth users as well), so the only reason he wears gear is for casters stats, so cloth is -atleast- just as good if not better for him as mail. See where this is going?
For casters all that matters are the caster stats, armor does fuck all. of course mail should be priority, but if there aren't any decent upgrades in mail, they have just as much right to go for leather and cloth.
In TBC my resto shaman ran around in cloth/leather and with a staff for christ's sake. I didn't enjoy it but I had to since mail was few and far between at that point.

[Nikoll]

Not haveing craftable or buyable itemized gear is dumb, but oh well. Take the cloth and go with it.

[Awe(EU)]

as you can see, most of our BiS-Gear is cloth/leather.

there is no point in not bidding for it as long as you focus on real upgrades and not grasping every cloth/leather-piece which is slightly better than your mail stuff.

you might as well just start of crafting http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47603 or/and http://www.wowhead.com/?item=47586 cause they are pretty close to BiS and you don`t "steal" it from the cloth-classes.

[Oneleg]

Try having *no* tanking weapon upgrades outside of Heroic Mode. And I mean *not a single one*.

Loot isn't always perfect.

I would settle for there being only ONE piece of gear I couldnt upgrade, but we are talking about ALL but one. It just seems the people making the gear have forgotten about one spec or another. For Ulduar it was pretty much everything, for enhancement, all the rings that dropped from the first 5 or 6 boss's had str, no agi anywhere to be seen, first real weapon upgrade was off of Thorim 25, next was hardmodes only. Same thing is happening with ToC, no real upgrades it seems all that god damn ArPen on the mail pieces. But there are some nice ones at least.