Difficulty Modes yay or nay?

[Milamber]

I know this is probably Thread #1723 about this, but I think there has never been a Poll. I'm curious of the outcome.

[Noxia]

Kinda weird question, I don't want to kill him 40 times in one mode because that would take almost a year, and raiding one boss for 40 weeks sounds pretty boring . But yes, I would prefer that there was only one mode, like algalon in ulduar.

[Milamber]

Kinda weird question, I don't want to kill him 40 times in one mode because that would take almost a year, and raiding one boss for 40 weeks sounds pretty boring . But yes, I would prefer that there was only one mode, like algalon in ulduar.

Ok I'll change the question then.

Please vote Noxia :-)

[Powerogue]

absolutely, positively, YES!!!!

my server isn't exactly amazing with raiding, i have yet to down yogg-saron.

last expansion i got as far as maybe halfway through karazhan, that's as far in the epic endgame instances they let me see (until level 80 achiev runs, but those just suck, our server wipes on those a ton). no sunwell, no BT, no ZA. i just freaking sat around half an expansion apparently, i dunno what happened.

but with this i'm actually RAIDING.

I'm perfectly ok with the two modes we have now:

hard mode: very difficult, pro guilds will wipe on some of the really difficult ones, but these give significantly better loot

easy mode: so easy that you can beat them with a jumbled up raid of failures, disconnectionists, and brbleftmyparrotintheovens.

i am stuck with the latter, and thus am glad our time has come to truely enjoy the instances.

heck i'd be fine with if they made it so you could run instances with an entirely NPC group, and they'd escort you through every boss, even if you got little to no loot. just want to see those bosses.

[Czin]

though we're not a hardcore guild or something we're comming pretty far...

we're now trying to reach algalorn on 10 man uld... and it's nice to see a group over 10 pull up everything to the maxx to get down a farmboss (ofc farmboss without hardmode) and actually wiping on them again...
then when ToTC 25 is clear on our raid days we're running trough uld 25 with the same old bosses doing them over and over and over again... it's nice to actually kill them in a way that they are harder ^_^

[Keoren]

Imagine BT
Imagine you were a pretty advanced group
Imagine that Blizzard was taking AGES with releasing a new patch and SWP
Imagine you killed every frikking boss in BT for 6 months now...25 Najentus kills...25 Gorefiend kills...25 Akama kills....25 RoS kills.....25 Council kills....25 Mother kills....25 Illidan kills...
Imagine you are so bored you are making speedruns and can clear the place in 90 minutes then have NOTHING to do for the rest of the damn week.

Wouldn't you have liked the odd hardmode in there to freshen things up?

I know I would.

I notice a flaw in this example. If there were hard modes in BT, they wouldn't have likely been too far from what the raid originally was in TBC apart apart from couple of bosses which could've been tuned higher. The biggest difference would've been that along with this the normal mode would've existed to offer a path which wasn't as challenging.

[Milamber]

I notice a flaw in this example. If there were hard modes in BT, they wouldn't have likely been too far from what the raid originally was in TBC apart apart from couple of bosses which could've been tuned higher. The biggest difference would've been that along with this the normal mode would've existed to offer a path which wasn't as challenging.

Most people agree that hard mode = normal mode and normal mode = easy mode.

Still: I really really enjoy having 2 difficulty modes, and would love to have even one more.

[Paradox7]

Imagine BT
Imagine you were a pretty advanced group
Imagine that Blizzard was taking AGES with releasing a new patch and SWP
Imagine you killed every frikking boss in BT for 6 months now...25 Najentus kills...25 Gorefiend kills...25 Akama kills....25 RoS kills.....25 Council kills....25 Mother kills....25 Illidan kills...
Imagine you are so bored you are making speedruns and can clear the place in 90 minutes then have NOTHING to do for the rest of the damn week.

Wouldn't you have liked the odd hardmode in there to freshen things up?

I know I would.

Except hardmode was TBC's normal mode.......

[veemon_ro]

Imagine BT
Imagine you were a pretty advanced group
Imagine that Blizzard was taking AGES with releasing a new patch and SWP
Imagine you killed every frikking boss in BT for 6 months now...25 Najentus kills...25 Gorefiend kills...25 Akama kills....25 RoS kills.....25 Council kills....25 Mother kills....25 Illidan kills...
Imagine you are so bored you are making speedruns and can clear the place in 90 minutes then have NOTHING to do for the rest of the damn week.

Wouldn't you have liked the odd hardmode in there to freshen things up?

I know I would.

You do realise that the "hardmode" would of been the actual normal mode of bt.
Basicly when bt was out youd have cleared it in 1 month the most with all the bosses beeing a push over.
Ilidan would of died in 5 minutes, have no rend, no parasites, no phase 3 etc.
And after youd see all the instance you could start on hard modes, wich would of been what bt used to be in the first place.
So no .
I would rather have them make more instances in the time they spend tweeking the "hardmodes"

[Faladrath]

Yes for all the reasons stated above, any new 25man guild can down every normal mode with a tiny bit of organizing in ToC. Heroic modes keep the more "hardcore" guilds busy til IC is out.

If we had been on the middle way like in tbc we'd have ppl moaning they couldn't get past beasts or champions and the hardcore ppl moaning they have nothing to do for 3-4 months so a good move by blizz and hope they keep it.

[Baever]

Seriously guys?

Really starting to question why people feel the need to start new topics when there are multiple others discussing the same thing.

[Milamber]

Really starting to question why people feel the need to start new topics when there are multiple others discussing the same thing.

I don't really give a shit about the discussion I'm interested in the poll results.

[Baever]

I don't really give a shit about the discussion I'm interested in the poll results.

You mean the inaccurate poll results, using a sample that doesn't proportionally represent the population?

That's like asking people in Compton what they think of MAC 10s when everyone there already lives by a Beretta M9.

[Tadashii]

I am a "Hardcore Raider" and I love Hardmodes. Unless they are the ToGC 25 HM where nothing changes except they gain more health and do more damage. However if it is like XT-002 Deconstructor or Mimiron, where it actually changes the dynamics of the fight then hell yes bring them on!

[Milamber]

You mean the inaccurate poll results, using a sample that doesn't proportionally represent the population?

That's like asking people in Compton what they think of MAC 10s when everyone there already lives by a Beretta M9.

Of course the Poll isn't accurate... but lets be honest with each other here... there are no accurate polls, unless you ask 100% of the people.

I hope I get many votes, and the result interests me, even if the mmo readers are not a perfect representation of the wow community.

With your reasoning there would be no point whatsoever in any "opinon gathering" on these forums.

[Baever]

Of course the Poll isn't accurate... but lets be honest with each other here... there are no accurate polls, unless you ask 100% of the people.

I hope I get many votes, and the result interests me, even if the mmo readers are not a perfect representation of the wow community.

With your reasoning there would be no point whatsoever in any "opinon gathering" on these forums.

'Opinion gathering,' or what ever you want to call it, does have no point whatsoever.

Debating the topics at hand, while still generally futile, at least is dynamic and doesn't inhibit discussion, a discussion you've already admitted 'you don't give a shit about.'

[Milamber]

a discussion you've already admitted 'you don't give a shit about.'

The discussion did interest me once, but after so many Threads all I want at this point is a Poll. It's interesting to see 100 Yes/No answers instead of 100 grayish opinions.