Lay on Hands (Merged)

[Monkeybutt22345]

I registered just to say this....
"Lay on Hands can no longer be cast on yourself."
WHATTTTT????

[Fowl]

Yay =)

[Tandellon]

What...I can't touch myself anymore...?

[Monkeybutt22345]

perhaps now every single fucking blue geared warsong gulch playing retard will stop whining that paladins are too freaking overpowered because they have that super sweet twenty minute cooldown heal.

Even though they still got destroyed after popping LoH anyway... :P

[Mr_Bojangles]

This change has been planned for a very long time


http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%2...Patch_Notes%29

Paladin can no longer target self with Lay on Hands as the spell was intended to help others.

[TheDarkGod]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now remove bubble

[bak00777]

i want to know aswell, on my Prot Pally i liked knowing that I had LoH as an O $hit button if needed, srsly WTF.

[babolz]

exactly my point, i'm glad i quit playing.

then may i ask why in the world, are you posting in a World of Warcraft forums?

[gunner_recall]

Obvious pvp nerf is obvious.

[rillak]

They sure as hell better change it.

Change it so it can't be used in Arena or a BG.

That's what the change is targeted towards: the crybabies in BGs.

I use LoH in PvE while as Ret AND Prot.

This change is beyond retarded...

can't be used in arena, it's a 20 minute cooldown

[Naposim1337]

This change is beyond retarded...

[Ultralisk]

This change has been planned for a very long time

http://www.wowwiki.com/Patch_1.11_%2...Patch_Notes%29

So you're saying that Cataclysm will have the Bard Hero class?

[rillak]

then may i ask why in the world, are you posting in a World of Warcraft forums?

i'm bored.

[scvd]

You should be that blue-geared retard i think
And now remove vanish. And then remove ice block. And then remove deterrance, heroic throw, bop, .... And then.. remove this game

And now lets remove that things shamans do... oh

[gunner_recall]

Obviously stupid GC are so stupid! He even can't balance PvP without ruining PvE.

Agreed. They could at least say "LoH only heals for half the amount when used on yourself."

[Sikkarra]

the only thing i can think of, outside the bg idiots, is you don't get the mana regen like you did before from it, now you only get the regen from the glyph.

[Mr_Bojangles]

If I had to guess, I could see this being a prot tanking nerf above all else, yah, you got limited buttons, but you have a passive cant die every 2 mins, and another once every 20 mins. No other tank can spike 50k+ hp on demand. I still don't agree with the change tho.

[Pally power]

what...the...hell?

[Bananengurke]

If the LoH and SS nerfs are going on live, I want my Interrupt.

and your ms?


LoH can't be a pvp nerf -.- its not even usable in arenas. and no one cares about bgs, especially if some class is overpowered in bgs.

[Eire]

I'm usually the type to take nerfs with a grain of salt and let it play out. This one however is beyond my understanding. Do they dislike the benefit that it provides to properly glyphed holy paladins in pve? I never found it to be a game changer like crit stacking was in Naxx, which is the only place that I can see it being remotely overpowered. If you think that it is OP in that situation just change/remove the glyph to make it play nice.

The twenty minute CD makes it a bit underwhelming for pvp as well. You can use it perhaps twice in some of the longer running BGs, and in those situations it generally only prolongs the inevitable. Frankly, when I'm running around on my DK in BGs I'd much rather beat on a holy paladin than any other healer as it is, this only makes them weaker. I can eat a holy paladin alive and beat forever on a resto druid. The only time I really hate LoH is when I'm trying to burn down a prot pally.

It just seems that one of the most useful situational mechanics that a paladin has is being removed entirely for no good reason. I wish the developers would explain this decision. Some have said this is an obvious pvp nerf, but I don't see this as terribly useful for BGs, and it's too great a CD for arena. The most likely reason is pve content and holy paladins regenerating mana via this mechanic, to which I say adjust the glyphs.