Don't freak out about Lay on Hands... yet

[drlawyer]

I went ape too, don't worry.

However, it is noteworthy that Ghostcrawler specifically stated that this nerf was not supposed to roll out with the patch, so it very well may not make it to the live servers.

As usual, he promises nothing (but at least this time SAYS he's promising nothing) - but let's not light the torches yet.

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/th...77861597&sid=1

[DaLeetPawner]

What? I already polished my pitchfork!

[zcks]

I hope it doesn't go live, loh was one of paladin's best spells for world pvp or bg's when combating a ranged class that could nuke or cc, Same goes for sacred shield.
While i can see the sacred shield change making us a little less op vs melee in pvp it will make us useless vs casters who know how to kite because it was one of the few ways we could stay alive long enough to catch them (if they screwed up while kiting)

If they do go live hopefully they give us somthing to help vs casters that wont effect melee much, like making vindication a stacking debuff & adding a spell power reducing effect onto it & or an actual snare.

As for the lay on hands nerf it is a smack in the face for pve pally tanks, hopefully they get somthin if it goes live like a 10-12 second cool down interrupt talent low in the prot tree (round 3rd tier)

[Bananengurke]

seriously!@@ why isn't this on the front page yet??

[dr2022]

god bless blizzard

[Kerstin]

Because everyone hates paladins and want them to die from a heart attack?

[Rosianna]

If this makes it to live servers then Blizz is going to lose a lot of my respect. As a tankadin and having played a tank of nearly every other type, each one of them have an "oh shit" button ie Warriors have Last stand, etc... but anyway before someone decides to say anything about this post yeah I am pissed but its not gonna be a QQ omg my world is over. Just voicing my dislike for it is all.

[darkwarrior42]

If this makes it to live servers then Blizz is going to lose a lot of my respect. As a tankadin and having played a tank of nearly every other type, each one of them have an "oh shit" button ie Warriors have Last stand, etc... but anyway before someone decides to say anything about this post yeah I am pissed but its not gonna be a QQ omg my world is over. Just voicing my dislike for it is all.

Shield Wall ~= Divine Protection
Last Stand ~= Ardent Defender
??? ~= Lay On Hands

[Wolfmarine]

Im happy finally no fucking 2x max health pala!

[skrump]

/respec holy
/cast Beacon (self)
/cast LoH (Target)
/heal both
/dance

everybody wins

Or you can just cry because you know I once heard a song that said everybody does it ......sometimes

[Shonubi]

qq was good even for doing 5man quests )

[seam]

I don't really mind it. Sure it's powerful, but really? Not too bad.

For tanking it was nice for them, but honestly how many use it on themselves when needed? Almost every single one I know either forget about it or use it on another tank.

[Dackout]

Divine Protection = Shield Wall = Barkskin
Ardent Defense = Last Stand = Survival Instincts
DKs have different depending on their spec.

Just because one of your panic buttons are actually automatic in exchange for being a bit worse doesn't mean it's not there.
Also, anyone remember Blizzard using the word "Consistency"? As in, "Your class has now been nerfed into consistency".

Yes, I played a Mage during early TBC. This is nothing.

[Netherinfern0]

if it does hit live server's it'll hurt ret pallys in Bg's

[Googolplex]

As for the lay on hands nerf it is a smack in the face for pve pally tanks, hopefully they get somthin if it goes live like a 10-12 second cool down interrupt talent low in the prot tree (round 3rd tier)

Ye right, so that Rets can get it right ?

[Atylia]

if it does hit live server's it'll hurt ret pallys in Bg's

And that hurts paladins so much, I mean BGs is what this game is about amirite?

[drmadhatter]

/respec holy
/cast Beacon (self)
/cast LoH (Target)
/heal both
/dance

everybody wins

Or you can just cry because you know I once heard a song that said everybody does it ......sometimes

you do realize that even with beacon that you don't get the same amount healed back to you from the loh when you cast on some one. and it doesn't go to the person beaconed i just tryied and i don't get the loh back that way so reroll or got of the forums... cause you have no idea
as a tanking paladin i have to say gg blizz back to my druid tank... thanks alot...

[Kerstin]

Ye right, so that Rets can get it right ?

That would be sweet, seen Dks have that with stun silence and death grip.

[Aerikaya]

Shield Wall ~= Divine Protection
Last Stand ~= Ardent Defender
??? ~= Lay On Hands

Wouldn't say equal, but Enraged Regeneration is a powerful self-heal for warriors. I know that LoH has a place whenever I'm tanking, so if this goes live I would hope theres a talent deep in the prot tree to allow prot paladins to use it on themselves.

[cehawe]

god bless blizzard