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  1. #81
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Grimlor

    We've discussed the limits before we published them. We feel that 10kb is big enough for an image that - let's be honest - isn't all that important to begin with. They serve no real purpose after all.

    And I have to disagree with you when it comes to the fuglyness of 10kb avatars. I've seen some pretty nice ones here and there.
    Well I guess to each their own, but the opportunity to have a more custom space is why I left the official forums where you feel like a number more than a player.

    And as far as the fugly factor goes, it is true you can do a good job with 10kb you just can't have something that use to have hundreds of colors, aka black stick on white background with yellow bullet is best but that's not everyone's taste.

    On another note I'm glad to see I am allowed to discuss the issue without any abnormal levels of anxiety or unnecessary threats.

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    I'll write how you keep your avatar under the filesize of 10kb and still keep the quality.

    (Photoshop)

    1. When you make your project, make sure the PPI (Pixels per Inch) is no larger than 72.
    2. Don't make the size any larger than the forum will scale the image to, 80x80px
    3. Don't use animations that are larger than ~20 frames
    4. Crucial step: When you are done with your image and you want to save it, go to: File > Save for Web & Devices.
    5. In the top right hand corner of the newly opened window you can switch between the presets to see if there is any major quality differences while keeping an eye on the bottom left corner for file size.

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    What you do NOT want to do:

    * Save your file as any other extension than .gif or .jpg
    * Use the regular save function (File -> Save as)

    I get images that are 600x400 px drop down from 802kb to 50 with no quality change.

    If you do not own photoshop you can use: http://www.picresize.com/ though this site will not guarantee you match the required filesize.

    Alternatively you can use: http://www.smushit.com to reduce the filesize.

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Daginni,

    I am actually one of the Mods that tries to send a message to every single person I delete an Avatar off. However, the downside of this, is that they mostly want to discuss the matter with PM's, instead of going to this thread (which I directed them to in the PM) and discussing it here. This takes time, a lot of time.
    Imagine 20 people doing this, all wanting to discuss why it was deleted even though it is clearly stated in the rules.
    Now count the number of reports I get with that from my time.
    Don't forget that I actually have to Moderate a lot of forums while doing those 2 things.

    See the problem?

    Idiot as I am, I will keep sending these Messages to the people I delete the Avatar from.
    But I hope you understand now why most Moderators wont.

    Cheers,
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahumut5
    PS
    Arganis: Always loved your Signature, and still love it. Just because it is a bit smaller, doesn't mean its not as good looking. (No size doesn't matter replies allowed).

    I love you Bahumut5 !!!

    どうもありがとうございます , always liked your avatar.

  5. #85

    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahumut5
    I am actually one of the Mods that tries to send a message to every single person I delete an Avatar off. However, the downside of this, is that they mostly want to discuss the matter with PM's, instead of going to this thread (which I directed them to in the PM) and discussing it here. This takes time, a lot of time.
    Imagine 20 people doing this, all wanting to discuss why it was deleted even though it is clearly stated in the rules.
    Now count the number of reports I get with that from my time.
    Don't forget that I actually have to Moderate a lot of forums while doing those 2 things.
    You could just put REPLYS WILL NOT BE ANSWERED
    Obviously they'd still reply but then you're within your rights to not answer them

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Bahumut5
    Daginni,

    I am actually one of the Mods that tries to send a message to every single person I delete an Avatar off. However, the downside of this, is that they mostly want to discuss the matter with PM's, instead of going to this thread (which I directed them to in the PM) and discussing it here. This takes time, a lot of time.
    Imagine 20 people doing this, all wanting to discuss why it was deleted even though it is clearly stated in the rules.
    Now count the number of reports I get with that from my time.
    Don't forget that I actually have to Moderate a lot of forums while doing those 2 things.

    See the problem?

    Idiot as I am, I will keep sending these Messages to the people I delete the Avatar from.
    But I hope you understand now why most Moderators wont.

    Cheers,
    Bahumut5

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    Arganis: Always loved your Signature, and still love it. Just because it is a bit smaller, doesn't mean its not as good looking. (No size doesn't matter replies allowed).
    Just say it's an automated message and you won't reply back to them :P
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    My sig was removed.. its was one of those achievement ones, it said "You're on a boat!" "I bet you never thought you'd be here." How is that against the guidelines?

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Alteka
    How is that against the guidelines?
    "In some rare cases, size does matter?"

    Make sure you read the guidelines and check the propperties of chosen signature before actually using it.
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Maybe a mod could go through all the reported avatars/signatures in this thread first?
    Or is that happening already?

  10. #90

    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by bbr
    HA!, uhm,, Gee, guess who's to blame for that.... >_>
    Don't you like getting mail from me? T_T
    Just hm, edit this message rather than delete it I guess.

    Incoming Giant list!
    Have fun >
    (I'd sort them by ID, but that'd be going overboard a bit. Slight risk of getting doubles though.)


    Sig height(>100) / size(>50 kb):
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=4220
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=23648
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=25631
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=44054
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=48750
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=88948
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=96738
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=40512
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=52862
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=92812
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=72218
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=95567
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=84574
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=42130
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=11767
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=83636
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=80618
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=96714
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=96378
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=47165
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=37357
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=57123
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=93965
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=99026
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=97730
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=114213
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=117992
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=113672
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=104727
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=103905
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=103482
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=117336
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=106008
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=107706
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=110929
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=104114
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=109080 (250 kb)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=107774
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=113609
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=113872
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=104103
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=112332
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=108759
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=105851
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=115574
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=102958
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=104553
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=103783
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=103893 (filesize way big)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=117608
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=107479
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=110871

    Avatar filesize: (>10 kb) - mostly animated ones.
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=17936
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=37439
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=33503
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=33592
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=55365
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=28873
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=83367
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=49211
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=99909
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=17208
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=67770
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=96685
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=47885
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=26210
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=75696
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=95772
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=87872
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=28491
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=80809
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=28873
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=96154
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=81420
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=62753
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=62916
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=83367
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=75325
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=47165 (also listed above under sig)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=112332 (also listed above under sig)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=110291 (also listed above under sig)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=110871 (also listed above under sig)
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=116950
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=108793
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=114081
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=102388
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=100463
    * http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=3324 - heheh, 16K

    All signatures from: (maybe setup a url block on those, or warn individual users)
    * http://worldofwarcraft.mmocluster.com/img_achievements/ : 105 px high
    * http://card.mygamercard.net/ : 135 px high
    * http://wowittaja.net/charsig/sig/ : lots of alts = bigger filesize. (example)
    * http://arena-armory.com/ : 125 px high version. There's also a smaller version from that site though.
    * http://warcraftid.com/card/ : 110 px high (example)

    And loads used in:
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/general-discussions-22/(photoshop)-signature-request-(read-before-requesting)/
    Quote Originally Posted by LavaDuck
    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=47165 - Large signature and avatar.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=99909 - Large avatar.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=109822 - Way too large signature.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=41469 - Avatar is nearing 500kb

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=82941 - New signature that is 2MB

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=101771 - Total size of signature exceeds rules by a long shot.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=30864 - Avatar is nearing 500kb. Signature is also large.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=83026 - Too big signature.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=16594 - Signature is too wide and too high.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=73912 - Avatar is ~350kb.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=98151 - Avatar is ~170kb.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=88336 - Biggest avatar I've seen so far(2.2MB)

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=12439 - ~250kb avatar.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=26210 - ~350kb avatar.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=101496 - Signature is oversized.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=90031 - Same avatar as four up(2.2MB)

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=121843 - Signature too high.

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=63329 - ~1MB avatar

    http://www.mmo-champion.com/profile/?u=113391 - Signature height is 1024 pixels high combined.
    All of the above sorted -_-

    has laid down the LAW!

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Now I'm really starting to think you're just jealous of my signatures.
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by LavaDuck
    Maybe a mod could go through all the reported avatars/signatures in this thread first?
    Or is that happening already?
    Actually, It has been done. I ended up with deleting around 40-50 Avatars from this thread.
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Gihelle
    Now I'm really starting to think you're just jealous of my signatures.
    Hopefully that's not pointed at me, I'm pretty sure I'd rape you graphically

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Deciduous
    I was wondering if anyone is willing to make a signature with 7 characters on it, I am not bothered about telling you how I would like it to look as I would rather leave it to the experts, but one thing I would like is guild name <Sinisters> and realm name Outland on the signature somewhere.

    The characters are as follows:
    Burdess - Human Male Paladin ( Holy )
    Biggun - Night Elf Male Hunter
    Deciduous - Night Elf Female Druid ( Restoration )
    Eilleen - Night Elf Female Warrior ( Fury )
    Hazabucket - Human Female Warlock
    Iolubadd - Night Elf Male Rogue ( Would like him with glaives )
    Necrobyte - Human Female Deathknight ( Unholy )

    I know this is a big order but if anyone wants a challenge feel free to give it a go and mail me it.

    Thanks in advance.
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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Undertaker
    All of the above sorted -_-

    http://i49.tinypic.com/29ek4lf.gif
    Yay \o/

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Is this signature acceptable?

  17. #97

    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by AcidicRage
    Is this signature acceptable?

    Width = 500
    Height = 100
    Size = 29.95kb
    So yes perfectly within the rules.

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Hi I'm wondering why my original avatar size is wrong, here it is:

    This is my avatar after resizing it to 48x48 pixels, but all it did was stretch it out to the original size anyways, as you can see it is my current, ugly stretched avatar.

    What's wrong with my original size? It's been removed twice after two successive resizings already by some guy named Annoying.

    Edit: Comparison of After/Before:


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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    Quote Originally Posted by Snes
    Hi I'm wondering why my original avatar size is wrong, here it is:

    16.42 kb, max allowed is 10 kb
    So save it as gif/jpg or check the sticky "guide to shrinking avatar size".

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    Re: Signatures + Avatars

    I painstakingly reduced the size of my sig until it was actually hard to even read, just so it could be allowed on the forum, but it still got removed.. ):

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