Discipline Priest - How To Kill A...

[HDawg187]

OK. This is my first post on the forum so go easy. I'm currently levelling a priest at the minute and I thought I'd start this thread. I did a similar thread in the past for warriors on mmo-champion and it was quite successful.

What I want, is a guide on how to beat each class 1v1. You can go as in depth as you like with this.

Before anybody starts QQing about how WoW isn't balanced around 1v1 battles, please stop right here. If you aren't interested in reading the thread or contributing, go elsewhere. The warrior thread helped me MASSIVELY in knowing how to handle other classes in battlegrounds and arenas. It gives a good understanding of how the other classes cooldowns and spells work and tips when facing them.

The way I want this to work is as follows. I'll set out a list of the classes and specs (ones that you'll meet in PvP. I'm yet to see a fury warrior in a battleground since dual spec came out) and the lovely readers of this forum can give advice on how to effectively beat (or hold off for as long as possible) these classes. I'll edit this original post every time someone contributes and I'll put their mini guide in the post (and will name the contributor).

To those who intend to help out, Thanks very much.

Below is a dispell guide taken from the official forums. Posted by Synikul. It's a massive help when fighting certain classes.

DISPELS
Some people don’t know what they can dispel, and that’s a huge thing to not know considering its our strength. I will outline what you should dispel on every class when you face them.

Paladins:
Blessings: Dispel these once. If they keep reapplying, don’t worry about it. If they don’t ( a lot don’t) you just took off a huge buff.
Sacred Shield: Looks like your bubble but cooler and more golden. Always, always take this off. It not only helps their healing, it absorbs a lot of damage. Take this off themselves or their partners.
Bubble(Divine Shield): Mass Dispel this. It makes them immune to all damage.
Repentance: If it is on your partner, dispel this. Its basically like a hammer that stuns you/partner for a few seconds.
Hand of Sacrifice ( will be on their partner): Dispel this as it shares damage and if you are CCing the pally, then their sharing damage can break a CD like blind or sheep.
Divine Plea: If the holy pally is not protection specced then dispel this. However DP reduced the pally's healing in half, so if you have the pally OOM and you are about to put out a lot of damage on their partner, let them have it.

Shaman:
Ghost Wolf: Dispel this, it’s a magic buff and they will use this to get away from your partner or to help peel if they are DPS.
Earth Shield(or any shield): Dispel this, it heals them every time you hit them and if you they put it on their partner they might survive your fear -> DPS chain.
Flame Shock: Dispel this quickly, its going to lead to a hard hitting, insta lava burst. Be warned when you dispel this they will get a haste increase so be warned that you need to move out of the way when you do this.

Druids:
Innervate: Single handedly the MOST important spell to dispel. Make sure you are dispelling the druid when he starts to go OOM, because he will cover his innervate with other spells that you can dispel to protect that innervate. You must take this off as soon as it is up.
HoTs: Dispel most of these, esp on your kill target.
Thorns: Dispel this, it can do a lot of damage on whoever attacks the kill target.
Mark of the Wild: Dispel this, its resistance to magic can allow them to resist fear, mind control etc.
Entangling Roots: If its on your partner dispel it. If its on you because they are running to innervate, get it off quick.

Mage:
Ice Block- MD this depending on the situation. If you are killing the mage and he uses it to survive, go for the dispel. If its just defensive to get rid of a blind or something, don’t worry about it, you could do better things with that time.
Focus Magic – Extra crit for the mage and the person it is on. Its got to go.
Sheep: Get it off your partner
Int- Extra intellect, also must go =)
Ice Barrier: Protects against a lot of damage, you need to take this off quickly
Anything that freezes you (Nova, Frostbite Procs, Ranged Nova) – This opens you up for a Deep Freeze so dispel it fast.
Chill Effects- If the mage is the kill target you need to dispel these fast or else he will kite you forever.

Priests:
Bubble- Dispel that immediately, its our most important spell for keeping ourselves up.
Renew- Falls under HoTs, which much immediately go.
Grace- Increases healing, and covers more important spells, so dispel this.
Fort- Like a said, it’s a lot of stam so dispel that.
Fear Ward- Most important thing to get off in priest v priest matches. That fear is where you get a kill on their partner. For this reason, it’s a bad idea to buff FW on yourself at the beginning of a match. Its going to disappear fast.
Shadow Protection- Resisting fear = you lose, so make sure this goes off.
Divine Spirit- Taking this off makes our dismal mana regen even worse.
Fear- Dispel this off your partner

Warlocks:
Fear- Dispel off your partner
DoTs - Dispel those you can, leaving the curse (which you cant dispel) to allow you to bounce Prayer of Mending around.
UA Locks- If the lock is UA (Unstable Affliction) you want to make sure you dont dispel his DoTs, as it will silence you. Bouncing PoM should keep you up just fine, you may want to take it off if you start getting mana drained.

Hunter:
Black Arrow- Increase damage, and deals shadow damage so you have to get it off. (Special thanks to Healzalot for correcting me)
Freezing Trap- Get it off on your partner or whoever they are trying to CC

Death Knight:
Chains of Ice: Ugh, such an OP @#_$#@, make sure you get it off your partner or yourself.
Diseases: Dispel these off quickly. Cure Disease is your friend.. spam it.

Warrior:

Regarding warriors in 1v1, as funny as it may sound but shadow fiend will hit them hard
Dot them up, spam heal yourself with anything you have and while they blade storm - power infusion and spam those heals. You can even use Divine Hymn in conjunction with Inner Focus. It'll increase healing done on you once blade storm is down so you'll heal a bit more. They can't interrupt while blade storming. Cast mind blasts to force pummel on shadow school. - Thanks to Syanid

1vs1 warrrior cannot be done without gear. If you have that gear, then it is rather easy actually. It requires all/most your cooldowns but you can do it. I find that the dps from the pet is required to get the kill. When bladestorm comes all your haste cooldowns + PW;S then MC him away. - Thanks to TwistedPower

Fear Ward your shadowfiend (in 1v1 the warrior is going to wait and fear it). What I do when I play against a warrior is shield, wintergrasp haste trinket, power infusion, pain suppression and spam Holy Fire and Smite (smite specced..lol) DoTs etc to force him go on defensive (yeah, its weird but he will die/lose if he doesn't).If I don't kill him by then, I lose/die. - Thanks to Elothie

Arms: Arms is the spec you will encounter and need to fear the most by far. Fighting one in many cases is a huge gear check. UInder geared players of all classes will find their crits to be very unpleasant. As to beating one 1v1 with a priest, I'm not sure tbh. It's my understanding that warriors kinda counter priests. They cant really be feared, they will slow, interrupt, close gaps and debuff your healing. Also, they will hit you very hard when your bubble isn't up. You will want to save your ass saving cds (Pain Suppression) for his bladestorm but I can honestly say I never had a priest other than shadow attempt to fight back. Healers just try to survive. The bubble is your best friend as we cannot get rage from hitting it and an under geared warrior will have trouble dpsing it down with the limited rage. Warriors can’t heal themselves much at all so all damage you can do will go towards a victory including dots and holy fire or whatever it is. If they have a healer though you might want to just /kneel and get a soda or something. – Thanks to Smoknjoe

What i usually do is go in for an all out nuke... dots+holy fire+sw:d+rocket gloves+pet... All the while keeping instants up on urself... Fearing isn't really a good option unless mortal strike has like 1 sec left... then you may get off some penance ticks before he can charge back... Other then that it consumes a GCD and gives him the opportunity to stun you. - Thanks to Balalaika

You can Mind control a warrior that is bladestorming. PW:S borrowed time haste buff, a haste trinket, PI, and Engi glove enchant all stack so using any combination of these will allow you to get an easy quick MC off on the warrior negating almost the entire bladestorm. They cannot use any skills while bladestorming, so they cannot break it themselves. Not to mention that if you happen to do it in a non 1vs1 encounter you can make them bladestorm their own team. It is also nice to know that you can PW:S your pet. Why would you want to do this? Uh 25% more haste on an MC, penance + heal, or offensive penance + Hfire if you already have weakend soul on yourself. And you can PoM durring a bladestorm and it bounces between you and your pet if it out. - Thanks to TwistedPower

Protection: As far as prot goes, there isnt much to fear other than the massive stuns, interrupts and never getting a gap due to being impossible to cc effectively. Lucky for you they don't pack to much of a punch other than the shield slam which mind you also removes a magic effect including a HoT or Inner Fire - Thanks to Smoknjoe

I think prot should be fine as long as you manage to stay pretty well topped off... They do pack a pretty insane burst when played right though, so play it carefully and make sure you juke the spell reflects. - Thanks to Balalaika

Shaman:

Resto:

Elemental: Can be pretty hard depending on skill level... If they know how to interrupt and use grounding totem it can get tough.. Other then that, just DoT up and remember to dispel flame shock. - Thanks to Balalaika

Enhancement: As a discipline priest agains a enhance shaman the tactics would be to try mana burn the shaman untill he have so little mana he can't do anything, then the shaman will probarly use shamanistic rage to gain some mana back, and when his shamanistic rage ends you just mana burn him again. You should try melee down tremor totem so your fears become usable. While his spirit wolves is active just try to survive as good as you can, pop divine hymn and keep shield up, fake cast to make him waste his interrupt, keep pressure on him with dots as much as possible. After his wolves end, you pop shadow fiend, put up dots and burst him with penance, enhance shamans are weak targets, and try to use weak spells when you see his grounding totem up. Also, melee down his cleansing totem. - Thanks to Galten1234

Druid:

Feral: Keep your face towards him, that means he cant shred if he's specced for that... Will diminish his burst substantially. Watch out for his 51 point talent (berserk) as it makes him immune to fear. - Thanks to Balalaika

The important thing about feral druids is to counter their burst with Berzerk, or w/e that tallent is. The bleeds that come out of that buff are insane and non-dispellable. If they time their berzerk right they will realy put pressure on you and they will be immune to fear. Using your cooldowns properly vs a feral is important. Most importantly though is recognizing that the druid did infact berzerk and is going to be able to hit you with twice as many moves (50% energy reduction) and way way way harder. More then likely though if the druid pops out to cyclone you and heal himself, he will run your mana dry, but I'd rather loose by not having enough mana rather then getting rolled. Any non/semi-geared feral should not hit you hard enough for it to matter much, Dot him up, fear every time it is up and use your wand as much as you can to get your mana flowing at 100% whenever possible. It is important to time your shadow fiend with your burst and not to do it before he switches to bearform for rage heal. Let him bear heal first, use hym for mana first. Then when his bear heal is on cooldown get him to half hp, pop fiend and start pumping holy fire, MB's into him. Make sure you have trinket for the cyclone or he will just instant cyclone you and heal to full hp. - Thanks to TwistedPower

These guys are your friends, from what ive experienced they are a bit of a cheap version of a rogue when it comes to duels, they dont as much damage as a rogue can and cant stun lock you like a rogue can, BUT they can reset a duel easier, in that a quick stun-Cyclone-heal and its done. I find the best way to start this off is pre-shield/PoM and wait til they get there precious opener, no need at all to use a trinket or pain suppress just wait it out. As soon as you can just use scream, thats the key. One penance to yourself and you be 100% hp again, you should have 4 seconds left on scream in which you shield again, dipel MotW, Holyfire/SW and DoT up as they come back towards you. In this comp basically you'll be standing there taking a beating until scream comes off CD and you can get some more damage done, it wont take long till the druid needs to peel and heal himself. As stated before he will probably use the stun-cyclone-HoT/Heal method, IMO its a great time to use your trinket and keep the pressure right on him, he'll be forced to play defensive in which you'll be spam dispelling HoTs as you run and making sure DP and SW:P is up. just keep PoM up whenever off CD to. He will eventually fall, not that hard of a duel IMO. the fight never last long so feel free to pop Shadow fiend offensivly for extra damage (it helps), But a smart druid will deffinatly take the time to roots him. The one thing that may catch you is if you get to cocky and let yourself cruise at 60-70% hp while you're chasing him down then he gets his abilities ready and does a decent round of stuns with a 5 combo point ferocious bite... OUCH! Don't be a nun every class can bear every class. It's the player, if you slip up then bye bye. - Thanks to Varanaar

Resto Druid: Well these guys are a little harder, and VERY frustrating at times. Laying down the law here its a mana thing. I like to take a slightly different start off here, at the beginning, I stay close but not that I will fear them, I let them HoT themselves up as I DoT them up and then Spam dispel so im getting rid of their buffs and HoTs while they have now wasted a bit of mana. Now you fear Shield yourself for borrowed time proc and then mana burn mana burn mana burn! Dont let him run near things where he can LoS you, i know its hard but you need to stay close. With what ive found doing petty Holyfire/smites doesn't have a great point to it early on, yeah throw in SW and keep DoT'd just to keep him burning his mana further by healing himself but you need to play it slow. Dispelling's the key to getting the mana down faster, at some stage when they hit 1/3 mana is when the action really starts. They'll make sure they have a full duration cyclone at ready, use it then travel form and run the %&*$ away behind a poll and use innervate. Its a must that as soon as you see them run rather then HoTing themselves like they have been doing that you trinket and get to them to dispel that Inervate. You have stayed close to them but duels arent perfect so if they did get to far away and behind a pilllar 30 yards away its to late. You cant run 30 yards to get in LoS and then dispel it because they inervate would have already taken affect, instead you use you priestly smarts You get close enough to them (about 20 yards) aim a Mass dispel behind and to the left or right of their pillar and keep spamming, Its something no other class has accsess to. you can dispel without even being able to see them. Now presuming all went well, they should only have about 1/2 mana now and no inervate. You rinse repeat exactly what you where doing but this time they'll try and do their same trick but drink, just dont let them. DoTs up always and when you have them at low enough HP cause the're conserving their last drops of mana you get a fear off and Shadow fiend, blowing power infusion and spamming all offensive attacks (Yes i even use penance here). It should be enough to get them down if not its one more round where you have more mana then them and they'll eventually fall. What makes this difficult is hybrid heals/dps druids. They can put up mean enough damage to make you waste the time you want to spend mana burning on healing yourself. Either way its a toss up, you can beat them, and if they are decent druids they can play you so well that they can beat you. Keep watch. - Thanks to Varanaar

Balance: You can mana burn balance druids. Save your fear for treants. Use a pillar to heal behind inbetween mana burns. Dispell before you start burning again. The most important thing to do is make sure you dispell the innervate or you will run out of mana before he does. - Thanks to TwistedPower

Rogue:

DoT up, at all times... pet hits them hard, but try to use it after the first vanish at least... Watch out for CloS when fearing, juke kicks.. Combat has some insane burst cds during which you should pobably burn pain suppression. If you are all alone against him you could trinket the first kidney. If he decides to reopen his stuns are now subject to diminishing returns. - Thanks to Balalaika

Mutilate:

Subtlety:

Mage:

Try to not use shield/renew/pom as the mage can spellsteal it. Stay topped of and manaburn him. Try to juke counter spell, and if u can't make sure it hits your shadow school. - Thanks to Balalaika

Arcane:

Fire:

Frost:

Warlock:

When a warlock comes, you need to be alot more offensive. If he has his felhunter out, you need to be aware of your buffs. You need to get the shadow school locked or juke it. You must ALWAYS dispel immolate. You must never dispel UA. Know when you're about to die and PS yourself before it. Immolate + shadowfury -> You're stunned with an immolate and not topped or with a shield -> PS. - Thanks to Nikkita

Affliction: Pillar and dispell magics, yes even the silence, Bubble yourself before you start to clense the silence dot while behind a pillar, After the silence, clense his other dots off. You will take less overall damage if you clear the other dots yet get hit by the silence. An aff lock can drain more hp (then convert it into mana) then you could ever dps on him, just dispell and run LoS - Thanks to TwistedPower

When i meet a UA lock, I know this will probably take long and i will probably lose. First: never dispell UA. Time the fear so that the DoTs on you - especially UA are 1-3 secs to run off. That way you can fear and when UA has dropped, dispel what's left if it has more then 3 secs to tick. The lock will have to redo all the DoTs as well as not getting healed during the fear. Keep DoTs on him and his felhunter. Make sure you don't get your holy spells locked. You can cast shadow school spells to draw a Spell Lock. If you do get locked, no need to panic, be ready on a Divine Prayer/Shield/HS/Healthpot when its over. If all your buffs are dispelled from the fel hunter; heal yourself with penance. If not, keep using shield and renew. I try to keep myself topped and keep my DoT's and occasional mindblast on the lock and his pet. There are two types of UA locks - The one that will DoT you up and mana drain you, and the one that will drain life. When the lock drains my mana, I either try to LoS / Range it, but I usually shield/renew myself and PI myself and go full out on dps. If i see I might kill him, I even pop my shadowfiend. This can kill the UA mana draining lock or it will cause him to start drain lifing since he's running low on HP. If you didn't kill him, with shielding/renewing yourself, he is still mana burning you and you're OOM, you lost. Expect a slow death. The UA locks that drain life aren't easier. I usually DoT the lock and his pet up, keep shield and renew on myself and penance if the pet stole all my buffs. Mindblast when I can. When the first pack of dots are running low, I fear him, dispel whats left, shield and DPS him. When the fear breaks due to my damage, I pop shadowfiend. I will not pop shadowfiend if the lock is high on HP. I can repeat the fear every 30 secs, usually the 3rd/4th time i fear, the lock gets low on HP. - Thanks to Nikkita

Destro: Destro locks can be mana burned in a BG if they are not paying attention to you, then they life tap and you just mana burn it away. Dispelling immolate off yourself for a destro lock is top priority. Then you can time you bubble for the choas bolt, use the haste for inc hasted pennace + flash heal to full hp before he can do any more damage after the bolt. Other then that I would just pillar untill sombody comes along and kills them becuase you are not going to kill a lock unless they are realy stupid or have no gear, at which point it realy does not matter what you do. Sometimes you will out last am idiot destro lock who thinks he can win by chasing you, He will life tap down so much that he is at half HP. Pop your pet and dot him but keep pillaring. dispell his shadow ward and he should start to be in a spot where you can just holyfire + SW;D him. - Thanks to TwistedPower

When I meet a lock, there are a few things I do that lead me to kill the average warlocks:
When its a destro pve geared lock that caught me doing my dailies, first thing I'll notice is an Immolate on me. I'll dispel it IMMEDIATELY. I'll shield, PoM and renew myself knowing that damage will come. I'll DoT the lock, probably dispel myself again a few times as well, since an immolate not dispelled will probably result in me dying. I'll try to push a mind blast here and there and keep my DoTs running, dispelling, shielding, PoMing, renewing and penancing when needed. Getting in a fear. DoTs on his pet as well if he has soul link. When he casts fear on me, I'll quickly buff myself with Fear Ward. If it's on CD, I'll shield, dispel, renew, PoM myself. If I have trinket on, I will trinket the fear if I have an immolate on me and quickly try to dispel it. Eventually and not after a long while, the lock will reach 50% hp. Either from my damage or from life tapping, it doesn't matter. That's when I renew my DoTs and get in a fear, holy fire, mindblast and sw:d. The lock is probably not dead btw since he used a HS or god knows what. He usually returns to dps me, that's when I get my shadowfiend up to finish him off. I've found that using shadow fiend, DoTs and a proper timed fear will get a lock killed. However, it usually takes a while. - Thanks to Nikkita

Paladin:
Retribution:
Holy:

Hunter:
Marksmanship:
Beast Mastery:
Survival:

Priest:

Discipline: vs Disc priest if he is undead or a Blood Elf (interrupt) he has the upper hand (assuming you are not). I usually spam manaburn and when I start to burst, I fear ward my shadowfiend. Oh, and save my fear for his shadowfiend (well if he is not good, he wont dispell it or Fear Ward it). - Thanks to Elothie

Shadow: vs Shadowpriests what I do is manaburn them to 0, force a dispersion and then nuke as fast as possible before the next one is on CD. (1.15 mins tough but doable). Fear his shadowfiend if possible. - Thanks to Elothie

Death Knight:

DK's of any spec are a piece of cake... Just remember to keep dispelling diseases and you're halfway to win. Launch PoM, then shield yourself, fear and start dpsing him down. If he pops anti-magic shell just wait till it goes down, doing only 25% damage simply isn't worth the mana. Most DK's forget about their interrupts (at least in my experience), so you should be rather safe spamhealing yourself, but be ready for being locked down with spells if you do so. Shackle the ghoul/gargoyle - Thanks to Flane

Cleanse Diseases and the DK can do nothing to kill you. Without diseases, deathstrike doesnt heal the DK, and without diseases the DK cant do any noticable damage to you either. - Thanks to Playersup

Unholy:
Blood:
Frost:

[Smoknjoe]

Hello,
I play a warrior so I'll try to provide some input. Your right about fury not being in bg's, its not viable and trust me I've tried.

As far as prot there isnt much to fear other than the massive stuns, interrupts and never getting a gap due to being impossible to cc effectively. Lucky for you they don't pack to much of a punch other than the shield slam which mind you also removes a magic effect including a hot or possibly your armor buff thing.

Arms is what you will encounter and need to fear the most by far. Fighting one in many cases is a huge gear check, under geared players of all classes will find their crits to be very unpleasant. As to beating one 1v1 with a priest I'm not sure tbh. It's my understanding that warriors kinda counter priests. They cant really be feared, they will slow, interrupt, close gaps and debuff your healing, also they will hit you very hard when your bubble isn't up. You will want to save your ass saving cds for his bladestorm but I can honestly say I never had a priest other than shadow attempt to fight back. Healers just try to survive, the bubble is your best friend as we cannot get rage from hitting it and a under geared warrior will have trouble dpsing it down with the limited rage. Warriors cant heal themselves much at all so all damage you can do will go towards a victory including dots and holy fire or whatever it is. If they have a healer though you might want to just /kneel and get a soda or something.

Hope this was helpful to some extent and is not to long.

[HDawg187]

Thanks for the help, mate. Feel free to go as in depth as you want.

Any priests fancy wading in here with thoughts/comments?

[TwistedPower]

1vs1 warrrior cannot be done without gear. If you have that gear, then it is rather easy actually. It requires all/most your cooldowns but you can do it. I find that the dps from the pet is required to get the kill. When bladestorm comes all your haste cooldowns + PW;S then MC him away.

[syanid]

Regarding warriors in 1v1, as funny as it may sound but shadow fiend will hit them hard
Dot them up, spam heal yourself with anything you have and while they blade storm - power infusion and spam those heals. You can even use Divine Hymn in conjunction with Inner Focus. It'll increase healing done on you once blade storm is down so you'll heal a bit more. They can't interrupt while blade storming. Cast mind blasts to force pummel on shadow school.

[HDawg187]

Initial post updated. I'll put this on discpriest.com too so I can add posts from there as well.

Thanks guys. Keep em coming.

[Elothie]

vs Warriors you should also Fear Ward your shadowfiend (in 1v1 the warrior is going to w8 and fear it).What I do when I play against a warrior is shield wintergrasp haste trinket power infusion painsuppresion and spam HF Smite (smite specced..lol)dots etc to force him go on defensive (ye its weird but he will die/lose if he doesn't).If I don't kill him by then I lose/die :P

vs Disc priest if he is undead/BE(interupt) he got the upper hand (assuming you are not) I usually spam manaburn and when I start to burst I fearward shadowfiend.Oh and save my fear for his shadowfiend ( well if he is not good he wont dispell it or FW it)

vs Shadowpriests what I do is manaburn them to 0 force a dispersion and then nuke as fast as possible before the next one is on cd (1.15 mins tough but doable).Fear his shadowfiend if possible

[balalaika]

Hey... Been playing priest since mid tbc now, so figured I'd offer my input....

General tips: always rebuff inner fire when it runs out of charges.

Warrior:

Arms: What i usually do is go in for an all out nuke... dots+holy fire+sw:d+rocket gloves+pet... All the while keeping instants up on urself... Fearing isn't really a good option unless mortal strike has like 1 sec left... then you may get of some penance ticks before he can charge back... Other then that it consumes a gcd and gives him the opportunity to stun you.

Protection: I think prot should be fine as long as you manage to stay pretty well topped off... They do pack a pretty insane burst when played right though, so play it carefully and make sure you juke the spell reflects...

Shaman:
Resto: Yawning just thinking of it :P
Elemental: Can be pretty hard depending on skill level... IF they know how to interupt and use grounding it can get tough.. Other then that just dot up and remember to dispel flame shock
Enhancement:

Druid: dispel motw
Feral: Keep your face towards him, that means he cant shred if he's specced for that... Will diminish his burst substantially. Watch out for his 51 point talent as it makes him immune to fear..
Balance: fear pets, dispell dots and nuke :P should be pretty easy

Rogue: dot up, at all times... pet hits them hard, but try to use it after the first vanish at least... Watch out for CloS when fearing, juke kicks.. Combat has some insane burst cds during which you should pobably burn pain suppression. If you are all alone against him you could trinket the first kidney. If he decides to reopen his stuns are now subject to diminishing returns.

Mage: try to not use shield/renew/pom as the mage can spellsteal it. Stay topped of and manaburn him. Try to juke counter spell, and if u can't make sure it hits your shadow school.
Arcane: dispell pom/arcane power
Fire:
Frost: dispell novas, dispell mage

Warlock:
Affliction: try to los his cast time dots and dispel yourself if you can avoid unstable affliction
Destro: dispel immolate

Paladin: if u manage to get one low, a quick mass dispel->fear can kill him off
Retribution: stay topped of. if he pops wings try to dispel it

Hunter: los as much as you can while keeping dots up

Priest: dispel fort and fear ward

Death Knight: abolish disease is your friend. juke interupt ofc
Unholy: shackle gargoyle... watch out for interupt as this is subject to pushback
Blood:
Frost:

thats a start at least ^^ alot is pretty basic, but hope some of it can be of some help..

[Healtuff]

Holy Paladin-

1. Mana burn and /lol at him while he has nothing to do to counter it.
2. /giggle at his attempts to get through your shield before the CD's back up.
3. Fear him and /dance while he runs around
4. Mind control him and make him spin around
5. If he bubbles, dispell it, even if you're not going to take offensive advantage by doing so. Do it just to piss him off.
6. Mana burn again.
7. ?????
8. Win


You may think I'm trolling, but this is really how duels against priests go for me.

[TwistedPower]

You cannot beat my holy pally in a 1vs1 with mana burn. Infact you are not going to kill him at all. My Hpally cannot kill you, but you cannot kill him either.

[Worshaka]

You cannot beat my holy pally in a 1vs1 with mana burn. Infact you are not going to kill him at all. My Hpally cannot kill you, but you cannot kill him either.

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Considering a Holy Pally doesn't really need to wear every bit of PvP gear available to stay alive their Mana pool is considerably larger than a Disc Priest who needs to wear every bit of reslience they can find just to be viable. Considering Mana Burn costs almost as much mana as it steals you'll run oom before the Holy Pally and they still have Divine Plea & Melee beating on you with Judgement of Wis.

If you PoP Shadow Fiend they can counter with bubble, then it's just a matter to stop you drinking. If you do attempt to DoT him up, he can cleanse with ease which just places the mana advantage back in his favour.

Eventually a good Holy Pally would kill a disc priest but more often than not they'll be average and you'll end up in a stalemate.

[Huntingbear_grimbatol]

if a disc priest ever wants a duel against me (im holy paladin) i just equipp my pve gear and outlast that bitch with my 30.7k mana unbuffed. manaburning that ammount on me drains his own mana. while im using seal of wisdom and judgement of wisdom to lolhit him doing holy shock and disspelling myself and doing instant flash of light + the 4th tier 9 set bonus makes it easy through the manaburn + shadowfiend.

i pvp as retri and holy, got decent gear for both specs. what i dont understand how a retri paladin can EVER kill a restodruid or any other healer without having a massive gear advantage. we got 1 stun and one silence, assuming ur stuck with blood elf, and the only way i remotly have chance to kill a disc priest is through having 10minutes long duels wearing them out of mana..

im not saying healers need a nerf or a retpaladin needs a buff.
but would it really be such a pain in the ass to give a counter against healers?

[Livin!]

I Love this idea!

Have not PvPd verry mutch as Disc yet but im getting started.
I cant realy contribute with mutch but I do hope other ppls will.

Sticky pls!

[galten1234]

I do not play priest but I play enhancement shaman so I tought I could give some tips against enhancement shamans :P

As a discipline priest agains a enhance shaman the tactics would be to try mana burn the shaman untill he have so little mana he can't do anything, then the shaman will probarly use shamanistic rage to gain some mana back, and when his shamanistic rage ends you just mana burn him again.

You should try melee down tremor totem so your fears become usable. While his spirit wolves is active just try to survive as good as you can, pop divine hymn and keep shield up, fake cast to make him waste his interupt, keep pressure on him with dots as much as possible.
After his wolves ends you pop shadow fiend, put up dots and burst him with penance, enhance shamans are weak targets, and try to use weak spells when you see his grounding totem up.

Was about to forget, melee down his cleansing totem

sorry for my english because english is not my main language :P

hope this will help someone

[HDawg187]

First post updated. Thanks again.

[TwistedPower]

I do not play priest but I play enhancement shaman so I thought I could give some tips against enhancement shamans :P

As a discipline priest against a enhance shaman the tactics would be to try mana burn the shaman until he have so little mana he can't do anything, then the shaman will probably use shamanistic rage to gain some mana back, and when his shamanistic rage ends you just mana burn him again.

You should try melee down tremor totem so your fears become usable. While his spirit wolves is active just try to survive as good as you can, pop divine hymn and keep shield up, fake cast to make him waste his interrupt, keep pressure on him with dots as much as possible.
After his wolves ends you pop shadow fiend, put up dots and burst him with penance, enhance shamans are weak targets, and try to use weak spells when you see his grounding totem up.

Was about to forget, melee down his cleansing totem

sorry for my English because English is not my main language :P

hope this will help someone

You cannot mana burn a shaman it is a waste of time. In the end the enhancements could just water shield and mana spring totem back up to enough mana. Eventually the priest would go oom from using mana burn and not be able to heal, then the priest would lose. Any geared and smart shamans of any spec will beat a priest 1vs1. It might take 30 min to oom the priests but That is how you would win 1 vs 1.

Honestly 1vs1 is not important. This game is not balanced 1vs1. When you have the gear in a 1vs1 you basically stalemate all healers. Also is this a duel, world pvp, bg but still 1vs1? Not having a pillar/los will change the way a lot of fights go. for example you will not kill a frost mage without a pillar, it just won’t happen unless you are playing an idiot. In fact you won’t kill a mage anyways, they will sheep you and drink/eat and they do not have arena to mess with their mana drinking ticks and at some point you will just die.

World druid pvp. Well if you are horde and they are alliance they can just shadow meld flight form at any time and run away so. GL with that one.

A 1vs1 compilation is just pointless. There are so many factors in 1vs1 that can change if you can beat another class or not. If you want to just talk about ideal situations MC the guy off a cliff. There you go you just beat any class.

[HDawg187]

Before anybody starts QQing about how WoW isn't balanced around 1v1 battles, please stop right here. If you aren't interested in reading the thread or contributing, go elsewhere.

Look, I don't mean to be rude. You helped me in another thread which I was very grateful for. Yes, you're right. The game isn't balanced around 1v1. Well spotted.

Let's just pretend for the sake of this thread that you're playing 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5 and everybody on the opposing team except 1 player is dead. Furthermore, everybody on your team except you, the discipline priest is dead. It just so happens that you both have all your cooldowns. What do you do?

I know you know how to play a priest at a high standard. Think of this thread as a way of imparting your knowledge to us lowly peons who are just starting or don't know all the tricks of the trade.

Even tiny things like knowing when to trinket vs a rogue or slapping a fear ward on your pet... Things that might seem obvious to you may not come as easily to other players. Even tiny snippets of info about each class could help someone who's not very adept at playing a priest. It might help them kill that pesky DK in a battleground or that annoying frost mage in arena. It might make them enjoy the game a bit more. Try not to be so negative about threads that are helping people who are just starting out.

Again, I say all of this respectfully. You have already mentioned things in this thread that have helped me and probably a few other players. Maybe try to look at this from a different point of view.

Thanks for the contributions everybody. There's somebody on another site that has made a pvp priest compendium. He's going to add to this list and I will of course post the information here when I get it.

[TwistedPower]

Look, I don't mean to be rude.

Well you were as my statement about 1vs1 is not a QQ as I was not complaining about the thread or anything, I was pointing out that 1vs1 has no real strat because the most often 1vs1's are not considered important and I was using the 1vs1 not balanced to point this out.

Let's just pretend for the sake of this thread that you're playing 2v2, 3v3 or 5v5 and everybody on the opposing team except 1 player is dead. Furthermore, everybody on your team except you, the discipline priest is dead. It just so happens that you both have all your cool downs. What do you do?

First of all it would depend on your mana. And if you fighting a 1vs1 even with all your cool downs but half mana, you’re going to loose vs anything that does not care about mana.

Second of all anybody who actually did that should get kicked from the arena team because if you are a disc priest that used none of your cool downs and you let your partners die you won't get far anyway. It won't ever happen in any real match so again it does not matter.

I know you know how to play a priest at a high standard. Think of this thread as a way of imparting your knowledge to us lowly peons who are just starting or don't know all the tricks of the trade.

If you concentrate more on how to beat a comps as a team rather than 1vs1, and understand why the strats vs those teams work. You will gain the ability to understand a 1vs1 situation with or without cool downs.

To beat a class 1vs1, 2vs2, 10vs10 requires an understanding of both your class and their class and every single other factor involved, including an not limited to, surroundings and other classes involved.

Even tiny things like knowing when to trinket vs a rogue or slapping a fear ward on your pet...

This is a good tip, if you compiled a list of cool tips and tricks to use vs X class, then that would be helpful. The point of my post was just to say that you will never get a real list of strats vs any one class and if you did, based on how it happened will completely change what you have to do. Not to mention that everybody has different talents and may not always be able to do things that others can. "mana burn x class" well no imp mana burn, now what?

I am not trying to belittle your attempt of putting together something to help combat certain classes, but it would be more helpful to people to just list little things to help counter a certain skill that a class does rather then something that reads "well to kill a lock first start out by dotting him then dispelling and then...." Because that will never work well. Listing the tips and tricks however would enable people to work them into their own play style and the situation.

[HDawg187]

The point of my post was just to say that you will never get a real list of strats vs any one class and if you did, based on how it happened will completely change what you have to do. Not to mention that everybody has different talents and may not always be able to do things that others can. "mana burn x class" well no imp mana burn, now what?

And if you notice in the OP, a few different people have mentioned their tips vs a warrior. I have quoted them all rather than attempting to suggest that one strategy is the best way to deal with a certain class. That way, any prospective readers can choose for themselves the best way to deal with a class based on what their own talents are.

If you feel a few tips are the best way to handle this, then by all means, suggest a few tips. I would be grateful if you did that. I'll add the tips next to the appropriate classes/specs and people can use that to help themselves then next time they PvP.

As you can see, somebody has already posted stating that they would value a thread such as this... I'm not pretending to be some benevolent priest overlord throwing my crumbs of knowledge to people. My priest isn't even level 80 yet. This thread is as much for me as it is other people. I actually intend to use your stickied arena thread as my sole guide to arena when I hit 80. I read it a while back and it's already been very helpful for me.

I'll post anything you think would be useful for noob priests such as myself.

[antifreeze]

ANy ideas what to do with dk's? at least how to survive em. Always got probs with dk (