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    Ardent Defender

    Does Ardent defender always proc when you are about to die(if its not on cool down) or are there some requirements to make it proc?
    because i was in WSG and i died multiple times and it never procced.
    thanks in advance
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    Re: Ardent Defender

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    lawl, noob.

    No there isn't, it's just bad luck. There are millions of bugs, wouldn't surprise me.
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    ok thank you. i was just double checking
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Im a noob because I posted a link to the talent from Wowhead?

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Teeef
    lawl, noob.

    No there isn't, it's just bad luck. There are millions of bugs, wouldn't surprise me.
    you need defense in your gear for it to heal you.

    To the OP if your in wsg and wearing all pvp gear then I'd assume you wouldnt get healed cause you didnt have defense on.
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by cellox
    you need defense in your gear for it to heal you.

    To the OP if your in wsg and wearing all pvp gear then I'd assume you wouldnt get healed cause you didnt have defense on.
    O ok thanks so it'll heal up to 30% of my health depending on my defense?
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Parvin
    O ok thanks so it'll heal up to 30% of my health depending on my defense?
    Yes, even says so in the tooltip of the talent.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Reyndeyn
    Im a noob because I posted a link to the talent from Wowhead?
    No, the OP was talking about the life saving bit, you were talking about the damage reduction.
    I may look busy, but I'm just confused.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    He was asking when it procs. AFAIK it procs when you are below 35% health according to the tooltip. So I answered his question.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Reyndeyn
    He was asking when it procs. AFAIK it procs when you are below 35% health according to the tooltip. So I answered his question.
    actually i was asking if there are conditions to the life saving part because it didnt proc for me.
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Parvin
    or are there some requirements to make it proc?
    This made me think you were asking when it procs. Just a misunderstanding

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Reyndeyn
    This made me think you were asking when it procs. Just a misunderstanding
    AD is two separate things. One, damage reduction when below 35% health. Two, the restoration of some hitpoints when you fall below 0.

    The second proc depends on having defense rating (having 540 defense will allow it to heal the most it can), and has a bug with a very small set of attacks which ignore damage reduction (chaos bolt comes to mind).

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    ok thank you all for your help
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Parvin
    actually i was asking if there are conditions to the life saving part because it didnt proc for me.
    It probably did proc and since you had no defense you immediately died because you didn't receive any healing from it or very little. Also in WSG, you wouldn't even notice if it procced anyways unless you had a dedicated healer on you as if you were tanking boss level mobs. You have 4 people beating on you and maybe a HoT on you, you'd barely notice it went off even if it did heal you to 30%.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    One thing to add: Chaos Bolt ignores Ardent Defender, because Ardent Defender absorbs the damage, that would otherwise kill you.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Kreth
    AD is two separate things. One, damage reduction when below 35% health.

    No longer does that, now it only reduces the hit that takes you below 35% HP (Unless I missed the change back?).. And it will not fully mitigate it.

    EX: You have 40% HP and take 6%, only that last 1% that would put you at 34% is reduced.
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by cellox
    you need defense in your gear for it to heal you.

    To the OP if your in wsg and wearing all pvp gear then I'd assume you wouldnt get healed cause you didnt have defense on.
    Actually, you don't need defense in order to proc it, it always will.
    The thing is that you need defense in order to have the proc heal you, but it will always proc(when you don't have the debuff).

    Just look for the massive pillar of light, that's when it procs.

    Naturally, if you don't have any defense, you won't get healed.. But that doesn't mean it didn't proc.

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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorg
    Actually, you don\'t need defense in order to proc it, it always will.
    The thing is that you need defense in order to have the proc heal you, but it will always proc(when you don\'t have the debuff).

    Just look for the massive pillar of light, that\'s when it procs.

    Naturally, if you don\'t have any defense, you won\'t get healed.. But that doesn\'t mean it didn\'t proc.
    Why did you bother posting? He said

    you need defense in your gear for it to heal you.
    And you just said the exact same thing. You act like you were correcting him just to say what he did.
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    Re: Ardent Defender

    Quote Originally Posted by Copain

    No longer does that, now it only reduces the hit that takes you below 35% HP (Unless I missed the change back?).. And it will not fully mitigate it.

    EX: You have 40% HP and take 6%, only that last 1% that would put you at 34% is reduced.
    Not quite, your example is right but this one is also correct:
    EX: you have 34% health, you would be hit for 20% of your health reducing you to 14%, 14<35 so this damage is reduced by 20%.

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