armor pen?

[Zombie Knight]

but they are using pvp gear which gives no ARP there passive arp is around 29% + 10%bs = ~39%arp

[Splatter]

lmao I assume nobody took the time to teach you grammar or spelling in preschool? Anyways, we dont really care about your dps so try not to boast. Secondly, there is no crit cap until you reach 100%. And thirdly cleave does not benefit more from str and crit then arp because the adds have less armor than the boss and less armor will yield a higher return from armor pen while str yields a linear return. Oh and I would kill myself if you were in my guild.

Actually there is a crit cap below 100%, assuming you are expertise and hit capped its around 80% or so, because at that point you push hit off the table and either crit or glance (glancing blow) if you arent hit/exp capped its even lower than 80% because dodge/miss are also on the table. Also adds having less armor means ArP is less beneficial not better, the higher the bosses armor the more effect you see from ArP because its % based not a set amount.

Oh and I would kill myself if you were in my guild.

same goes for you

[ycM]

lmao I assume nobody took the time to teach you grammar or spelling in preschool? Anyways, we dont really care about your dps so try not to boast. Secondly, there is no crit cap until you reach 100%. And thirdly cleave does not benefit more from str and crit then arp because the adds have less armor than the boss and less armor will yield a higher return from armor pen while str yields a linear return. Oh and I would kill myself if you were in my guild.

You suck. Go read some theorycraft.

[omglazor]

Not quite. Shattering Throw, Sunders, and FF are applied to the boss first, and then Battle Stance and whatever else you have. The buffs to you are applied after the debuff to the boss.

Wrong.
Q13 in this thread
http://www.wowwiki.com/Armor_penetration
http://eu-warrior.com/arpen.html

lmao I assume nobody took the time to teach you grammar or spelling in preschool?

Unnecessary.

Anyways, we dont really care about your dps so try not to boast.

Some merit, but unnecessary.

Secondly, there is no crit cap until you reach 100%.

Wrong again! Oh no!
http://www.wowwiki.com/Attack_table

Conclusion:

Oh and I would kill you myself if you were in my guild.