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    Which Spec 581+ (Mod note: we don't do this kind of threads, please stop)

    Hey,
    So im starting to get verry bored out of playing Frost.
    So I would like to try out Arcane or Fire.

    Which Spec would be better DPS wise?

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    Would be awesome if someone checks my toon, Zenjuro on Frostwolf-EU
    (My Toon)

    Also I heard Arcane is now best since 5.4.8 is this true?

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    All specs are good.
    Wanna pad?: Play Arcane
    Wanna spread combustion?: Play Fire
    Wanna be awesome like some other people? Play Frost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenjuro View Post
    Which Spec would be better DPS wise?
    I like how people always ask this question. It just depends on which secondary stat you have a lot of.

    Mastery? Arcane.
    Crit? Fire.
    Haste? Frost.
    Haste and Mastery? Arcane and/or Frost.

    It's never really been dependent on iLevel, it's just been dependent on secondary stats.

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    I played full mastery Frost from the time they nerfed the T15 4pc all the way till we started Heroic Paragons progression and I quit raiding. This allowed me to switch from Frost to Arcane whenever I pleased. It kept me from getting bored so I recommend it to everyone.

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    Since you're close to some arcane gear, try arcane, does exceptionally well on nearly every boss in this tier. Just get more mastery or regem/reforge to mastery and use mastery off pieces.

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    either arcane or fire they're both close. arcane takes more getting used to imo
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    Arcane Supremacy.

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    Arcane is the best DPS spec on most encounters at the moment so I'd go with that.

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    Arcane if you don't mind standing in a Rune of Power, fire if you do mind standing in it. Arcane has been theoretical and practical top dog since 5.4 with BiS gear with fire just a small fraction behind.

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    just do what makes you happy.

    all specs are good, its just your play style that will affect the outcome.

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    Depends on what gear you have. Prior to the 4/4 upgrades patch, I was experimenting with all 3 given I had accumulated gear sets for all 3 specs. Now all my fire gear is 4/4 while other pieces are only 2/4, so I will be remaining fire for some months. This only really matters if you're going for ranks etc. of course, which is pretty much all is left to do since we have had the place on farm for over half a year.

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    Arcane scales best atm but you will do more in spec you are comfortable with

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetesh View Post
    Arcane scales best atm but you will do more in spec you are comfortable with
    I'd argue fire scales just as well, but that arcane is better at all gear levels and maintains that lead as gear improves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetesh View Post
    Arcane scales best atm but you will do more in spec you are comfortable with
    Incorrect. Fire scales better given the crit multipliers(Bindings+CM). As ilvls move into the high 580's and as fire can afford to forego more haste in favour of mastery for larger combustions, fire will begin to take over arcane, not taking into consideration NT/AE pad situations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bondey View Post
    Incorrect. Fire scales better given the crit multipliers(Bindings+CM). As ilvls move into the high 580's and as fire can afford to forego more haste in favour of mastery for larger combustions, fire will begin to take over arcane, not taking into consideration NT/AE pad situations.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSrTnWDTdwI


    fire def scales better. arcane is viable from about 535 ilvl where fire isn't viable untill 570+. its pretty close in dps 580+ so u can conclude it scales better. the gear isn't high enough ilvl for fire to pass arcane (besides a few fights). so arcane is still better in most situations.
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    ok, in real situations arcane scales better - i don't care for any simulations or theoretical numbers... i believe only to playtesting...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Quetesh View Post
    ok, in real situations arcane scales better - i don't care for any simulations or theoretical numbers... i believe only to playtesting...
    "real situations?" http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...600&dataset=10
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...600&dataset=10
    that just IJ but u can see every fight may 20th was the day before the ilvl increase came out. fire increased much more than arcane. this is the top 10% parses so they will pretty much have their gear upgraded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoloswagginz View Post
    "real situations?" http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...600&dataset=10
    http://www.warcraftlogs.com/statisti...600&dataset=10
    that just IJ but u can see every fight may 20th was the day before the ilvl increase came out. fire increased much more than arcane. this is the top 10% parses so they will pretty much have their gear upgraded.
    You are taking an Ij parse? When comparing Arcane to Fire? What does Arcane suffer the most of? Mobility.
    Figure the problem of your suggestion.

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    Again not saying you are incorrect just try to make your examples more clear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berlinia View Post
    You are taking an Ij parse? When comparing Arcane to Fire? What does Arcane suffer the most of? Mobility.
    Figure the problem of your suggestion.

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    Again not saying you are incorrect just try to make your examples more clear.
    i literally said u can look at every fight and IJ isn't that bad as arcane
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