Snowflake trinket

[Vongimi]

Think that http://db.mmo-champion.com/i/50260/ephemeral-snowflake/ could be used in conjunction with Vamp embrace? With the massive amount of haste we are gonna be stacking, Spriests will be having mana issues in 3.3 im pretty sure. Do you think this trinket would atleast be moderately useful for a shadow priest?

[fabian]

It was confirmed on PTRs that it does. When anyone get's healed due to VE, it procs the mana back. I assume it works on Dev plague as well, but it wasn't mentioned specifically.

And we might have mana issues on multi dot, but Glyph of SW:P is to help there and just incase it is needed in single target.

[Zoulis]

Well... i would never even think to equip that trinket :P
a trinket is the best piece of gear u can get ... cause it's actually the piece that gives u the bigger dps increase ...
i would never waste a spot for that mana? with toc 25 hc gear (well without anub) i'm @ 26k mana in a raid and 900 spirit.... + with the sw:P glyph it's gonna be ok

Cheers
Zoulis

[Vongimi]

Well... i would never even think to equip that trinket :P
a trinket is the best piece of gear u can get ... cause it's actually the piece that gives u the bigger dps increase ...
i would never waste a spot for that mana? with toc 25 hc gear (well without anub) i'm @ 26k mana in a raid and 900 spirit.... + with the sw:P glyph it's gonna be ok

Cheers
Zoulis

SW:P glyph gives very little mana, what was it like 30-50 mp5? Remember it says BASE mana, not total mana. Also realize I said "moderately" useful. Im mostly a pvper, so my pve gear sucks, still using 2 ilvl 200 trinkets for my shadow pve

And wow I just thought about what this trinket would be for holy palls.... would it work with judgement of light??!?!?!? Oh well thats a different topic.

[fabian]

SW:P glyph gives very little mana, what was it like 30-50 mp5? Remember it says BASE mana, not total mana. Also realize I said "moderately" useful. Im mostly a pvper, so my pve gear sucks, still using 2 ilvl 200 trinkets for my shadow pve

And wow I just thought about what this trinket would be for holy palls.... would it work with judgement of light??!?!?!? Oh well thats a different topic.

I said it is to help, and we still should not need a regen trinket it. Although, if we have the snowflake, it will be impossible to actually go OOM with VE up. It gives upwards to 275 MPS(1375MP5) without accounting for DP. So it might actually be good because you can then change your gear to be more dps related, but you're sacrificing a slot that could be used for: Dislodged Foreign Object or Muradin's Spyglass

[Abandon]

Vampiric Embrace is not counted as a heal, it doesn't proc other effects that work on healing such as the haste from the Egg of Mortal Essence, so it is likely that it wouldn't restore mana at all with this.

[fabian]

Vampiric Embrace is not counted as a heal, it doesn't proc other effects that work on healing such as the haste from the Egg of Mortal Essence, so it is likely that it wouldn't restore mana at all with this.

Sorry, but that statement goes against what has been reported on the PTRs...
Now will it make it to live? Probably not, but we won't know until it actually goes live.

[bigfoot1291]

This trinket + VE = win
This trinket + Judgement of light = win
This trinket + druid heals = win

everything else = ehhh
Maybe resto shaman for chain heals.

[Kelesti]

This trinket + VE = win
This trinket + Judgement of light = win
This trinket + druid heals = win

everything else = ehhh
Maybe resto shaman for chain heals.

Renew, Circle of Life, Prayer of Healing (and the glyph?)

[KresnikHellfire]

I personally would never use it, I'd take two dps trinkets. If mana is that bad I'll ask for mana tide or an innervate.

[Vongimi]

I personally would never use it, I'd take two dps trinkets. If mana is that bad I'll ask for mana tide or an innervate.

Eh, true, I wasnt so much wanting to use it as I was curious if it would work.

[caintic]

I also wanna know what kind of guild would give this to a dps over a healer?

[Weena2]

I also wanna know what kind of guild would give this to a dps over a healer?

Considering its from a 5man id say guilds that run 5mans with loot council?

[Azyoulike]

God I hope it doesn't end up working with VE. If it does my server will fill up with noob priests experimenting with shadow healer hybrids

[Starstruk]

slightly usefull but i wouldnt say better than scales of fate or maybe flare? idk, definaetly not better than double anub trinket.

[Danner]

I totally love this trinket. If you are spamming insane amounts of heals, you can get up to 500 MP5 returned from this trinket (though even half would be awesome). That is an amazing return per itemization point. Which in turn means you can clear up some gems/enchants in favor of spellpower/haste.

The only case this trinket would be useless is if you are already trinketing/gearing/gemming 100% for throughput and still don't run oom. But in that case, I would claim you are plaing a druid. :P