[Ret] Glyph Decision For 3.3

[Byronyk]

First off, here is my Armory.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aver&n=Byronyk

I use the glyph of judgment, exorcism, and consecrate. I just upgraded two rings from my old EXP rings at the same time. I now have 18 EXP and will obviously need to glyph for vengeance. My question is which of exorcism or consecrate should i replace? ICC is comprised of most to all undead, so exorcism will crit 100%. I have also been told there are many AoE related boss fights in ICC (Correct me if i'm wrong) so consecrate might also be the better choice.

I am leaning towards dropping exorcism based on my current recount spread for top dps abilities. Please give me your input! Thanks

[Deleted]

Consecration is better than Exorcism, replace Exorcism.

[meag333]

First off, here is my Armory.

http://www.wowarmory.com/character-s...aver&n=Byronyk

I use the glyph of judgment, exorcism, and consecrate. I just upgraded two rings from my old EXP rings at the same time. I now have 18 EXP and will obviously need to glyph for vengeance. My question is which of exorcism or consecrate should i replace? ICC is comprised of most to all undead, so exorcism will crit 100%. I have also been told there are many AoE related boss fights in ICC (Correct me if i'm wrong) so consecrate might also be the better choice.

I am leaning towards dropping exorcism based on my current recount spread for top dps abilities. Please give me your input! Thanks

Exorcism, ever since we took of T7, is by far the worst of our dps spells, get rid of that glyph.

[Aesis]

get rid of exorcism.
or get 'vengeance of the forsaken' trinket that gives you 10 exp.

[Nillo]

get rid of exorcism.
or get 'vengeance of the forsaken' trinket that gives you 10 exp.

Considering, that Vengeance of the Forsaken is crap and that Glyph of SoV is far better than Glyph of Exo that doesn't look like a good idea.

[Deleted]

Considering, that Vengeance of the Forsaken is crap and that Glyph of SoV is far better than Glyph of Exo that doesn't look like a good idea.

VotF has been calculated to have a bit more DPS than MoT and Fot5F.

although death's and DMC:G are still top DPS.

since armory is down, I can't check if it is an upgrade.

just go with the glyph, exchange exo glyph. exo only scales with SP, afaik.

[Prentice]

just go with the glyph, exchange exo glyph. exo only scales with SP, afaik.

Statements like this one, while they may be true when taken at face value, are real head-scratchers. Every Ret Pally will be spec'd into Sheath of Light. Therefore, every ability that a Ret pally has or uses that scales with SP also scales with AP. Since they all go hand in hand, its a moot point.

[Jin84]

Umm.

Ideally, the 3 glyphs are Cons, Exor, Judge - according to Ronark's sticky as long you are Exp+Hit capped.

You swap either Cons or Exor out for Veng glyph if you are under exp cap.

ICC is mostly undead, so I'd keep the Exor glyph and swap out Cons since in a good rotation as you are most likely pressing Cons once every 2-3 rotations and because Exor crits while Cons can't.

For aoe fights, you might want to exp cap purely by gear as you will be using Seal of Command for them. Rotation is DS > HoW if possible > Judge > Cons > Holy Wrath if up > CS > Exor

[Ronark]

The real question, is what glyphs to roll with once you have 2pc T10.

Since consecration will maybe be effectively "dropped" from the rotation, do we go with Glyph of:

---> Exorcism?
---> Hammer of Wrath?
---> Holy Wrath?
---> Crusader Strike?
---> Divine Storm?
---> Turn Evil?

[Jin84]

The real question, is what glyphs to roll with once you have 2pc T10.

Since consecration will maybe be effectively "dropped" from the rotation, do we go with Glyph of:

---> Exorcism?
---> Hammer of Wrath?
---> Holy Wrath?
---> Crusader Strike?
---> Divine Storm?
---> Turn Evil?

.............. Wut.

[DaGhostDS]

The real question, is what glyphs to roll with once you have 2pc T10.

Since consecration will maybe be effectively "dropped" from the rotation, do we go with Glyph of:

---> Exorcism?
---> Hammer of Wrath?
---> Holy Wrath?
---> Crusader Strike?
---> Divine Storm?
---> Turn Evil?

glyph of Righteous Vengeance.. oh wait Someone can dream :-[

[Ronark]

.............. Wut.

With 2pc T10, DS has a 5 second CD, meaning that our rotation will look like:

0 seconds- DS
1.5 seconds- CS
3 seconds- Judgement
4.5 seconds- Wait 0.5 seconds for DS
6.5 seconds- CS
8 seconds- Exorcism, since most mobs are UD
9.5 seconds- DS
11 seconds- CS
12.5 seconds- Judgement


Etc. Etc.

[Nikoll]

i'm guessing exo at this point, but i'd like to get 2pc and go smack the dummy around.

[Jin84]

With 2pc T10, DS has a 5 second CD, meaning that our rotation will look like:

0 seconds- DS
1.5 seconds- CS
3 seconds- Judgement
4.5 seconds- Wait 0.5 seconds for DS
6.5 seconds- CS
8 seconds- Exorcism, since most mobs are UD
9.5 seconds- DS
11 seconds- CS
12.5 seconds- Judgement


Etc. Etc.

Nah I was boggling at the glyph choices you spat out. I was gonna go with Holy Wrath, since ICC is mostly undead.

[DaGhostDS]

Nah I was boggling at the glyph choices you spat out. I was gonna go with Holy Wrath, since ICC is mostly undead.

good for aoe, bad for the rest.. its worse then Exo in term of damage

[Aesis]

Considering, that Vengeance of the Forsaken is crap and that Glyph of SoV is far better than Glyph of Exo that doesn't look like a good idea.

don't be dissing me VotF! it goes great with wings!

[DaGhostDS]

don't be dissing me VotF! it goes great with wings!

Mirror of truth is great with wing too..
oh no i have 2 dps less then Votf!
that trinket is uber bad :-X

[Eärendil]

Consecration is better than Exorcism, replace Exorcism.

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