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    Fast offhand and flametongue

    Hi all

    I am still leveling my shaman which is level 72 and i got the offhand from nexus. But i dont know wether to us Windfury or flametongue on it. Tried looking it up, but kept getting mix information. On one site they say slow mainhand wf and fast off hand ft. But other sites say got double wf. I even tried rawr which didn;t even give me the option to put wf on offhand, should i conclude its beter then wf? rawr even calculated a increase dps if i did double ft.

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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Slow MH - WF
    Slow OH - FT
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    While leveling use Windfury on both weapons. Once you have enough talent points to get 5/5 Elemental Fury, you should start using Flametongue on your offhand.

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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    So should i drop the nexus offhand and go for a (13weapondps less) offhand who is 2,6?
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    yes

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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    oke ty for the help

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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Get a slow OH and go dual windfury. Your fast OH would have to almost 45 ilvls better than your slow OH to be a better option.

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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Quote Originally Posted by Annaconda
    So should i drop the nexus offhand and go for a (13weapondps less) offhand who is 2,6?
    Yes. This is because of the way Windfury works. WF has an internal CD of 3 seconds. so using a slow weapon gets you closer and closer to that 3 second mark. If you use a fast weap you are going to miss WF procs more often. Also because of the way weps work. A slow weapon usually has higher end damage. WF procs two instant hits based on wep damage. If you have a fast wep with low damage then its not going to do as much damage as a slow high end damage weapon does.

    Now that I've spoon fed you infomation that is all over the web I get to ask you to do a favor.

    USE THE SEARCH FUNTION OR GOOGLE!!!!
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Quote Originally Posted by Astryx
    Yes. This is because of the way Windfury works. WF has an internal CD of 3 seconds. so using a slow weapon gets you closer and closer to that 3 second mark. If you use a fast weap you are going to miss WF procs more often. Also because of the way weps work. A slow weapon usually has higher end damage. WF procs two instant hits based on wep damage. If you have a fast wep with low damage then its not going to do as much damage as a slow high end damage weapon does.

    Now that I've spoon fed you infomation that is all over the web I get to ask you to do a favor.

    USE THE SEARCH FUNTION OR GOOGLE!!!!
    This i already knew, just needed to know which is beter :fast beter weapon + Ft or slow oke weapon + WF.
    In my op text it also said i did search and tried rawr.
    But still ty for the info and confirmation :-)
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Quote Originally Posted by Astryx
    Yes. This is because of the way Windfury works. WF has an internal CD of 3 seconds. so using a slow weapon gets you closer and closer to that 3 second mark. If you use a fast weap you are going to miss WF procs more often. Also because of the way weps work. A slow weapon usually has higher end damage. WF procs two instant hits based on wep damage. If you have a fast wep with low damage then its not going to do as much damage as a slow high end damage weapon does.

    Now that I've spoon fed you infomation that is all over the web I get to ask you to do a favor.

    USE THE SEARCH FUNTION OR GOOGLE!!!!
    Why be so rude? He said he's been looking in his OP but gets mixed information. People these days have no sense of common courtesy.
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Quote Originally Posted by Annaconda
    This i already knew, just needed to know which is beter :fast beter weapon + Ft or slow oke weapon + WF.
    In my op text it also said i did search and tried rawr.
    But still ty for the info and confirmation :-)
    Well you are mainly getting conflicting info because while leveling, it doesn't matter. If you wanted to dual wield 1.3 daggers with double FT you'd hit 80 in roughly the same time. Nothing lives long enough for it to truly matter.
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    Re: Fast offhand and flametongue

    Think nowadays much of the advantage that was there with fast weapons with flametongue is gone since they made it so that flametongue dps is the same no matter weapon speed (faster weapons do less dmg but more often and so on).

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