NEW LFG, Aprently Roles Don't Matter Anymore....

[gamerguy19876]

Noone goes against tanks were too hard to come by 8). But i will say OT that if u needed it i would have passed it to you.

[Xenryusho]

You gave yourself your own answer. No communication = roll on anything you can use. It's not even close to ninja'ing at all.

Ok so I'm going to get into a run you're in, and need every piece of spell power gear you need (if you're a caster) or every piece of gear you're class can use but mine can not because "I wanted vendor gold and you didn't communicate that I shouldn't need upgrades you need". You'll reply "I WONT MIND CAUSE THATS HOW THINGS R" but you'll be lying.

You're so stupid it's actually upsetting. There's something called common courtesy, it's been around since vanilla. People join a run as a tank, so the mage doesn't need a def rating / stam ring. Similarly they don't need the rogues dps dagger. People who did this in vanilla were called NINJAS. Hence the term.. Taking gear that is better suited for a roll that you're not without asking if it was alright first.

Obviously the tank though it was wrong to do what he did, every time I see someone need something they shouldn't and win they leave the instance. Not because they thought it was done.. But because they knew what they did was WRONG. You can make any half assed argument you want denying this but in the end you're wrong.

Edit: if any of you pulled this kind of shit in a professional environment you'd find yourselves fired, if you pulled it in a less professional environment but still a situation with people above the age of 13 (I know all the people here bitching they should roll on roles they didn't sign up for) you will either be killed or beaten. So have fun in the next 20 years of your lives, I hope you make the mistake to enter a casino with your values, leave a table after winning three hands, and then end up floating upside down by morning.

[sinistergaz]

So Im guessing the term "Ninja" is pretty much dead? I was running H HoR last night as a Melee DPS Warrior with the other 2 DPS as Shammys, Tank was a Pally and the Healer was a Druid. The tank axe dropped off Falric, everyone passed it to the tank (as we should have) even tho he already had the 232 sword from Tyrannus. Then we do the gauntlet, and open up the chest to find the 232 Tank Helm and the 232 Melee DPS STR/STAM ring...Now I as the warrior should have automatically won said loot without competition, but I did not. We all greeded on helm (tank already had the 245 one), and I needed on the ring. Well so did the tank, and I lost the ring to him and he immediately dropped group.

My questions is, does it matter what role your playing anymore? If u can use the item PERIOD, your allowed to roll? Thats the general outlook I got from /2 when i reloaded Dalaran. If this is the case, Ill just tank everything and roll on the DPS loot as well seeing as everyone else is doing it. Its not like they say at the beginning im here to tank cause no one else will, but I will be rolling on "other" gear. Cause that would be fine, I would just quit the group and find another no worries. If your gonna steal loot, atleast man up and not drop group as soon as you NEED roll on something U shouldnt be rolling on to begin with, especially when your in the random LFG feature....Thoughts?

As a tank myself, first state that you will be doing this. If someone is not happy he can leave. If more than 2 people are unhappy i will leave. I am dps MS so I am only benefiting you with a few extra badges when i do tank. Might sound assholeish but I do politely ask and leave if it isn't taken well. Also, I see who else might need it. E.g. A ring with agi on it is pretty much bad for any plate dps so being a dk i roll for the ring if the other melee dps are plate because it isnt a massive upgrade for whoever is rolling on it.

[dotSeed]

There's something called common courtesy, it's been around since vanilla.

Kids today don't know that man. They'll do as they like and fuck making the world a more pleasant place, then piss and moan when someone does the same to them.

[AnotherPaladin]

Set some ground rules before the instance while everyone is getting there. Makes the whole loot process so much easier.

[Tikaru]

Ok so I'm going to get into a run you're in, and need every piece of spell power gear you need (if you're a caster) or every piece of gear you're class can use but mine can not because "I wanted vendor gold and you didn't communicate that I shouldn't need upgrades you need". You'll reply "I WONT MIND CAUSE THATS HOW THINGS R" but you'll be lying.

You're so stupid it's actually upsetting. There's something called common courtesy, it's been around since vanilla. People join a run as a tank, so the mage doesn't need a def rating / stam ring. Similarly they don't need the rogues dps dagger. People who did this in vanilla were called NINJAS. Hence the term.. Taking gear that is better suited for a roll that you're not without asking if it was alright first.

Obviously the tank though it was wrong to do what he did, every time I see someone need something they shouldn't and win they leave the instance. Not because they thought it was done.. But because they knew what they did was WRONG. You can make any half assed argument you want denying this but in the end you're wrong.

Edit: if any of you pulled this kind of shit in a professional environment you'd find yourselves fired, if you pulled it in a less professional environment but still a situation with people above the age of 13 (I know all the people here bitching they should roll on roles they didn't sign up for) you will either be killed or beaten. So have fun in the next 20 years of your lives, I hope you make the mistake to enter a casino with your values, leave a table after winning three hands, and then end up floating upside down by morning.

Are you 12?

No seriously, are you 12?

Grow up kid. There's a difference between rolling need on an upgrade you actually need and will use vs. being a total douche bag because you feel someone wronged you in the past.

How many times have you been in H HoR? If your tank or healer isn't on his/her toes, there's going to be wipes. Period. My main spec is DPS, but my OT is tanking. Too many times have I been unable to finish H HoR because of the tank. If I want to finish, then I'm forced to tank. It's the only way I'll know I'll see the loot chest at the end of the run.

We're talking about a ring, not a super rare mount, but a simple ring.

It will drop again.