Neverdied LVL 80 Mage, MLG Orlando, Blue posts

[ProdigalMadness]

What exactly makes you think that this is hard? Just do what the mage did: avoid everything dangerous... don't do quests, don't do achievements, don't do dungeons and go on a PvE realm. Just grind! Kill mobs 5 level below you and make sure to only fight one mob at a time. Do that for months, it's not hard, it's not challenging... it's only time-consuming and boring.

Exactly. It's basically what the gold farming/power level sites do. They sit there and grind nonstop against mobs that don't prove a challenge to people that have nearly NO idea how to play the game.


My personal favorite is that everyone is defending him looting a mob. The player already broke their own rules. And that's from what we DID see. Who knows, maybe they looted every mob - not like you'd know. All I know is they said NO LOOTING, and they did just that.

Also, what's the difficulty in not looting mobs if you have another character funding your project? His gear changed, which shouldn't have if he stuck to his rules(admittedly, didn't say he couldn't farm on other toons despite it defeating the purpose of the challenge). He's also using boa shoulders in the clip, so we also know he had 10% exp bonus the entire time.

Overall, it's not a challenge. It's time consuming, so hats off for wasting that much time... But LOL if we should be impressed by the fact that you spent time on it AND BROKE YOUR OWN RULES.

[Monsoon]

I didn t break my own rule I CLEARLY said 'no loot' and not 'no looting'. No loot means no gold looted as this is in par with the minimal achievements. Looting happens. No loot means no items from mobs/bosses/quest rewards.

But hey you want to poke holes at it...go ahead I don't give a fark lolz. All the Nerdrage I got from this really made my Christmas 100% better.

So I opened some loot windows sometimes and even sometimes grabbed white items on them to trash them later...big effing deal so call the police and stop the presses zomg he lied !!!11!! I must post my nerdrage about this and vent my frustration <insert murloc noise>.

You guys being upset at this is what made this all thing oh sooooo worthwhile. I can not wait to post that I leveled the same way to 80 on a pvp server with the new addition I thought about. Gosh you guys are going to blow your head off 'Scanners' type with that one lolz.

[lanath]

Paying one's monthly fee certainly entitles a person to play the game in whatever way they desire and this certainly proves that.

This is not, however, in the slightest 'impressive' and is far from an achievement. I'm sure that some thought and planning went into this but this is little more than an endurance stunt, there's no value to it and it required far more luck than skill. All it proves is that someone had more time on their hands than they knew what to do with and chose something as inane as this as a means to squander that excess time.

Several of the no's in your list actually diminish this and play a central role in this not being worthy of note. Chief amongst these is no questing and no dungeons. Most of the situations in which a player is likely to die occur during quests or instances so avoiding those essentially voided no deaths as anything impressive. Other no's simply feel tacked on like no loot and no professions, neither of which are in any way required to successfully get a character from 1 to 80.

Basically you chose to avoid the situations in which you were most likely to die (questing and instances), walked everywhere (except for the fact that you used mage ports and probably used other non-FP in game transport like boats), chose not to do certain optional things that do not impact leveling (looting and professions), and you just killed mobs for 250+ hours and we're supposed to be impressed? Just because something can be accomplished with enough time spent doing it does not make the act of accomplishing it an achievement worth of note or praise.

Ultimately if this made you happy and you enjoyed it then more power to you and best of luck with future time sinks you may discover. I will be waiting here as the first person to praise you when you accomplish something real like grinding a toon all the way to 80 doing only instances using the random the dungeon tool. That would be a true feat of skill and worthy of praise. This post is more newsworthy and truthful then anything he's 'accomplished'.

[Volcano]

Hmm.. Impressive but as it says on the list "No looting" I don't understand why he actually puts up a movie where he loots a mob at around level 78, good job though

[Monsoon]

Hmm.. Impressive but as it says on the list "No looting" I don't understand why he actually puts up a movie where he loots a mob at around level 78, good job though

Lolz...do you guys even read the pages on which you post comments?

It says NO LOOT not NO LOOTING

[Liquid Snake]

Lolz...do you guys even read the pages on which you post comments?

It says NO LOOT not NO LOOTING

Either way you looted AND as a consequence of that action received the loot.
It doesn't matter if your rule was "No loot" or "No looting", because you broke both rules: you looted something and received the loot.
And it's also not true that loot = gold. Everything that you can loot is loot. If it's gold, gear or some stinking fur.
Now don't get me wrong, I don't care if you looted or not, because this was all about hitting 80 without dying and without achievements.
Like I said, it was a nice idea, but I still don't see what's the big deal about grinding all the way to 80. There is no real danger of dying when you avoid PvP, dungeons and quests. Grinding is the most easy and boring way to play this game. But that's just my opinion.

[Naoto]

Yes I'm a noob and yes I also didn't read the entire thread, but can someone tell me how you can kill 31937 yet only get the killing blow on 18991? and I see you also got summoned 18 times by a lock? or whatever, but what I find funny is the fact you boast over this shit and say rules you followed and when it shows you didn't follow you say LOLZ and say you don't care, so why you here? gtfo.

Actualy I just looked at my statistics and it also shows this but still that would be instances/raids and whatnot, but if 1 person is alone killing mobs surely if he killed say 600 mobs he would get the killing blow on 600?

[Gougeripper]

Im very interested in how he bought skills if he didnt loot.

[ghettojoe]

Hey guys, I just hit 80 on a carebear server without dying.

Give me attention.

[Monsoon]

Yes I'm a noob and yes I also didn't read the entire thread, but can someone tell me how you can kill 31937 yet only get the killing blow on 18991? and I see you also got summoned 18 times by a lock? or whatever, but what I find funny is the fact you boast over this shit and say rules you followed and when it shows you didn't follow you say LOLZ and say you don't care, so why you here? gtfo.

Actualy I just looked at my statistics and it also shows this but still that would be instances/raids and whatnot, but if 1 person is alone killing mobs surely if he killed say 600 mobs he would get the killing blow on 600?

I never called anybody a noob...I usually don t taunt people unless they really deserve it which in this thread is actually quite a large number of people who:

- can t read
- come to their own conclusions
- can't read
- should look at themselves (ie the 10k achievements peeps) before calling other mad and obsessed

If you had read the thread you would have found out that first, mages have pets so that takes away some of the killing blows. Second I explained that I grinded several levels and that is about 8000 to 9000 mobs in valgarde where the NPCs help you kill stuff. Those two alone are enough to get to the difference. But hey keep trying to poke holes, its entertaining as I already mentioned. the Valgarde grind does not make things faster or easier. You still have to tag the mobs and ovoid them and it takes the same amount of time to kill them.

Summons? ZOMG I took summons WTFBBQ111!!1! I lied as I clearly said too that I would not take any summons. Holy cow 18 summons in 80 levels!!! that is clearly an unfair advantage. Have you ever considered that I may have taken summons to groups or friends or guildies that needed water, int or ports as they too were leveling.
/sigh

I didn t boast about anything whatsoever so please enough with the ad hominems seriously.

[Monsoon]

It doesn't matter if your rule was "No loot" or "No looting", because you broke both rules: you looted something and received the loot.

Yes it does matter. My grind, my rules. I said no loot not no looting. I know it must hurt down there but the no loot was for a good reason: to not get the 100g achievement. If people are too thick to realize that then there is really nothing I can do to help.

That is why it is important to have reading skills that enable you to properly understand and recognize words. A word like 'looting' meaning an action/verb when the word 'loot' in itself is a description of merely content. You can receive loot without looting. You can be looting without receiving loot.

but hey its semantics right. It doesn t matter what my goals or objectives were or how I wanted to do this right? What matters is trying to poke hole and attack the player right?

LFM ad hominems pls

[Monsoon]

Hey guys, I just hit 80 on a carebear server without dying.

Give me attention.

And still... very large obnoxious banner showing who I am, what my name is and what server I play on in my signature just to let others know how awesome I am, right? Who needs attention again?

[Naoto]

I never called anybody a noob...I usually don t taunt people unless they really deserve it which in this thread is actually quite a large number of people who:

- can t read
- come to their own conclusions
- can't read
- should look at themselves (ie the 10k achievements peeps) before calling other mad and obsessed

If you had read the thread you would have found out that first, mages have pets so that takes away some of the killing blows. Second I explained that I grinded several levels and that is about 8000 to 9000 mobs in valgarde where the NPCs help you kill stuff. Those two alone are enough to get to the difference. But hey keep trying to poke holes, its entertaining as I already mentioned. the Valgarde grind does not make things faster or easier. You still have to tag the mobs and ovoid them and it takes the same amount of time to kill them.

Summons? ZOMG I took summons WTFBBQ111!!1! I lied as I clearly said too that I would not take any summons. Holy cow 18 summons in 80 levels!!! that is clearly an unfair advantage. Have you ever considered that I may have taken summons to groups or friends or guildies that needed water, int or ports as they too were leveling.
/sigh

I didn t boast about anything whatsoever so please enough with the ad hominems seriously.

Yes because your pet and that 1 little area where the NPC's help mean you didn't land half the killing blows you did, mages indeed have pets I have used one but what's the chances of the pet beating you to the killing blow to 1 mob letalone 18k or whatever? and I also said I didn't read the whole thread so it's useless saying if I did read the whole thread. What you say makes no fucking sense, you grinded 8k mobs in Valgarde and the NPC's took half the killing blows? no wonder people "poke holes" when it doesn't add up.

Is it entertaining? because it's also entertaining for us when someone talks shit, so I guess were both happy if you keep talking shit and we keep poking holes, no you didn't mention summons but you mention no mounts or flight points meaning you walk, yet a summon isn't walking right? but I guess your friends needed your cheap ass water 18 times, you didn't boast? lawl, you boasted about levelling a char without dying and whatever other shit yet that isn't a boast? then when someone has second thoughts and questions something you come here with some LOLZ macho bullshit saying it's entertaining? you seem like some 14 year old who thought everyone would bow down and suck his dick because of levelling to 80 without dying and because nobody has you're crying like a bitch, that is entertaining so keep it up.

18 summons isn't unfair but it still helps, as I said you had help so you didn't really achieve shit, go find another way to be cool, because this failed, keep up the LOLZ.

[Azereo]

...That is why it is important to have reading skills that enable you to properly understand and recognize words. A word like 'looting' meaning an action/verb when the word 'loot' in itself is a description of merely content. You can receive loot without looting. You can be looting without receiving loot...

The thing is that in the video you clearly did receive loot. It may be gray crap, but it's still loot. Loot is loot.

[Monsoon]

Yes because your pet and that 1 little area where the NPC's help mean you didn't land half the killing blows you did, mages indeed have pets I have used one but what's the chances of the pet beating you to the killing blow to 1 mob letalone 18k or whatever? and I also said I didn't read the whole thread so it's useless saying if I did read the whole thread. What you say makes no fucking sense, you grinded 8k mobs in Valgarde and the NPC's took half the killing blows? no wonder people "poke holes" when it doesn't add up.

Is it entertaining? because it's also entertaining for us when someone talks shit, so I guess were both happy if you keep talking shit and we keep poking holes, no you didn't mention summons but you mention no mounts or flight points meaning you walk, yet a summon isn't walking right? but I guess your friends needed your cheap ass water 18 times, you didn't boast? lawl, you boasted about levelling a char without dying and whatever other shit yet that isn't a boast? then when someone has second thoughts and questions something you come here with some LOLZ macho bullshit saying it's entertaining? you seem like some 14 year old who thought everyone would bow down and suck his dick because of levelling to 80 without dying and because nobody has you're crying like a bitch, that is entertaining so keep it up.

18 summons isn't unfair but it still helps, as I said you had help so you didn't really achieve shit, go find another way to be cool, because this failed, keep up the LOLZ.

Yeah right ok fine I was power leveled by 3 Korean farmers names Moe, Hungwell and Longwang. Then Dr Khlan sent them to Detroit and I had to finish the grind myself.

[Naoto]

Yeah right ok fine I was power leveled by 3 Korean farmers names Moe, Hungwell and Longwang. Then Dr Khlan sent them to Detroit and I had to finish the grind myself.

Is that all you got? I thought you were entertained? I guess you can't explain the fact you failed to land half of the killing blows, haha.

[Monsoon]

The thing is that in the video you clearly did receive loot. It may be gray crap, but it's still loot. Loot is loot.

You consider Loot being anything in a loot window. I consider it items I can use or money. I guess next time I will make sure to add a legal disclaimer.

Video Note: Neverdied may have looted beasts and or animals or items during the event mentioned above. We do not represent that never at one point or another 'loot' was not gathered at all during the 4 months it took to grind. The term 'no loot' in the context of this exercise means 'gold' or 'money' also known as the 'currency' used in world of warcraft. We reserve the right to also label anything above 'white' item as loot.

I am sure that this would have fit right nicely on the video's first frame or on the post I formatted to not have too much text. I did not loot any currency and that was enough for me. If you guys need to Nerdrage about it then please be my guest but it is a rather silly argument to try to bring down the whole thing because of your definition of loot vs looting.

[Naoto]

For god sake, LOOT is anything YOU LOOT FROM THE CORPSE, you took gold, THAT MY FRIEND IS LOOT, now shut the fuck up and accept YOU LOOTED.

Loot is loot, understand? personally I couldn't give a shit if you looted a 15 inch dildo, but at the end of the day, you looted, end of.

If you give me a while I might be able to translate it into a bunch of different languages and maybe then you will understand that, but for the time being, gold = loot, you took gold = you looted, UNDERSTAND THAT LOLZ!!?!11?1

Saying NO LOOT, then taking GOLD, and then denying you LOOTED, even when it's on a VIDEO, is just incredible.

[Monsoon]

Is that all you got? I thought you were entertained? I guess you can't explain the fact you failed to land half of the killing blows, haha.

I explained how it probably happened. I could give less of a rat's arse about what the killing blows numbers are...you guys are the ones making a huge deal about it. No matter what I will say there will be people who are going to Nerdrage about this and it is very clear if you read this whole thread.

I do not have to justify myself. You can also believe I am a GM and simply created the toon and modified the database to make it look good. Or that I bought the toon from a friend or that I made the video on a private server or that I hacked the armory.

No matter what there will always be people upset about something fun for others.

[Monsoon]

For god sake, LOOT is anything YOU LOOT FROM THE CORPSE, you took gold, THAT MY FRIEND IS LOOT, now shut the fuck up and accept YOU LOOTED.

Loot is loot, understand? personally I couldn't give a shit if you looted a 15 inch dildo, but at the end of the day, you looted, end of.

If you give me a while I might be able to translate it into a bunch of different languages and maybe then you will understand that, but for the time being, gold = loot, you took gold = you looted, UNDERSTAND THAT LOLZ!!?!11?1

Saying NO LOOT, then taking GOLD, and then denying you LOOTED, even when it's on a VIDEO, is just incredible.

Definition: Loot usually refers to treasure or wealth that is found or stolen.

Hence why I chose the word loot to refer to 'treasure' or 'wealth'. You chose to understand loot as anything you are 'looting'. I chose to follow the above definition from Wikipedia which clearly refers to wealth and or treasure. A white item is NOT wealth or treasure. I was very very careful about that in what I wrote in the post and on the video.

My definition of the word loot is correct. Now please prove us that the Wikipedia definition is wrong or move along.