I really don't get it.

[FireBorne]

I don't understand why ppl complain about another class in their raid when they are all there to kill the same boss. I don't play a rogue so this is not rogue qq. The truth is imo if you are not getting invites to a raid your class is fine but your are useless. Am i missing something or has the community always been like this?

[Narit]

People want to top meters. They probably could care less about actually killing the boss since most content atm is easy and farmable so meters are really what people care about, sadly its the truth. People have almost always been this way

[Highlord Hanibuhl]

If I (the tank) am not dying and nobody else is, the healer is good. If we don't take 20 minutes to kill a boss, the dps is decent.
Other than that, it's a Heroic. You can't expect 9k dps.
Although it is nice :P

I once did Gundrak with 3 dps who all did 12k dps. We were done within 5 minutes :P

[Lysah]

If I (the tank) am not dying and nobody else is, the healer is good. If we don't take 20 minutes to kill a boss, the dps is decent.
Other than that, it's a Heroic. You can't expect 9k dps.
Although it is nice :P

I once did Gundrak with 3 dps who all did 12k dps. We were done within 5 minutes :P

lol 5 minutes

[fuknfreak]

If I (the tank) am not dying and nobody else is, the healer is good. If we don't take 20 minutes to kill a boss, the dps is decent.
Other than that, it's a Heroic. You can't expect 9k dps.
Although it is nice :P

I once did Gundrak with 3 dps who all did 12k dps. We were done within 5 minutes :P

I would like to ask you something... one day when you go back to gundrak and finish the instance... do me a favor, go back to the start of it, and start running from the start to the end of the instance (with all adds/bosses dead) and see how much time just running from start to end takes.

[Shornaal]

I once did Gundrak with 3 dps who together did 12k dps. We were done within 15 minutes :P

Fixed.

[Kyrik]

Gonna use some completely made up numbers for the purpose of illustrating a point here..

Lets also assume that player skill isn't taken into account, and both classes are being played to perfection.

If a moonkin is capable of 7k dps, and a mage is capable of 9k dps, then why would a raid want to take a moonkin, assuming you already have the 3% hit, 5% crit and 13% spell damage buffs?

You can say that content is easy all you want, but for a lot of people, that doesn't matter. Why make an encounter harder than it has to be and bring sup par dps

[antifreeze]

I feel like shit doin 8 k on mine shaman using million buttons and sitting near to my friend mage using 2 buttons aka blast and missiles and doing 11 k dps.
Maybe this is the reason of nerfs in all way.
And u know when u say "U all on one boss" Why do i have to be shaman if i can reroll rogue and dps better? Some ppl will definetly think like that and it ll be rogue invasion or something.

p.s. it s just theory i dont care on other ppl dps as i m in top 5 and thats enough for me.

[Sarcasm]

Rogues got nerfed? My rogue is still in 4p T8.5, using a Ruptureless rotation, and I still floor all but one of our guild's DPS on most fights (and he's also a rogue). We've cleared all current content so it's not like our DPS are bad.

Rogues have so far taken a 12% nerf and they're STILL amazing. They've got no reason to drown the raid in tears.