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    Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    Ever since the new Dungeon Finder went live, I've been leveling a lowbie with 4 of my RL friends from work. We're doing all the oldschool instances as a premade 5-man, and even at the appropriate level for any given instance we seem to be facerolling our way through content that I remember being quite a bit more challenging pre-TBC.

    Example.. this wednesday we did Uldaman with a 42 Pally tanking, my 38 Priest healing, and a 33 Mage, 41 Hunter, and 41 'Lock as dps. Maybe slightly over-level, but gear was mostly under-level greens, with a few blues here and there.

    We were AoE'ing whole rooms at a time, including bosses, which totally wasn't possible at those levels back in vanilla. Granted Pally tanks were a subject of mockery back then, so that kind of AoE tankage wasn't really possible, but has it really got that much easier?

    Or is it just that I was such a complete noob in vanilla that I found stuff hard when it wasn't? :P

    Disclaimer: I'm not QQing about WoW being too easy, I just found it surprising how much things have changed.
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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    When the normalised the levels within each dungeon, I'm sure they editted the skills in some way to conform to that level.

    Also makes a huge difference when it's a full group of people knowing what they're doing compared to just only your self. Most cases when I'm solo I'll be doing 60% of the damage.

    I never found them hard back in vanilla when I had 2 other friends leveling up with me on a new server. All we did was instance.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    Yup, it's a faceroll all the way to 80 (and on 80).

    I just beat the personal pug record in Auchanai Crypts: 11 minutes.

    The reason is the wotlk talents, nothing else.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    WOTLK talents, slightly better gear scaling (in the sense that the gear is still very basic at that level, no ArPen/hit/whatever to worry about) and better AoE capacities for all classes helps a lot when you compare it to Vanilla. It was a bit harder, yes, but it wasn't so much that the mobs were stronger than the fact that we're stronger.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    New talents and class mechanics. Thats all there is. Having some vanila experience also helps.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    Several things - instances were changed a bit back around 2.2 - 2.4 which made some (including uldaman) a lot easier

    you're a whole lot less of a noob now then you were then, as are your levelling mates

    and yeah, the BC/WoTLK talent changes mean your..."power level"? not sure of the phrase... is just naturally higher now because of the talent changes.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    Sometimes this isnt the case, due to the level ranges for each instance.

    For example, the Level requirement for Mara - Orange Crystals is 39 - 47ish. Tanking level 46 elites as a level 40 paladin is not pretty lol
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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    all that content was nerfed by 30% hp and Damage for all mobs and bosses.
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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    people still do low level dungeons? i stopped trying to get exp or gear up in dungeons after noticing it was much easier just to power level my way through quests making dungeon gear obselite.

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    Re: Are Oldschool Instances Easier Now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frozenbeef
    people still do low level dungeons? i stopped trying to get exp or gear up in dungeons after noticing it was much easier just to power level my way through quests making dungeon gear obselite.
    Never leveled a tank in the new LFG im guessing. it is really fast.
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